1.) Once a plea deal is reached, it goes before the judge with recommendations from the prosecution based on the deal that has been reached. The hearing before the judge is the sentencing portion. 2.) You do not know if the mother or victim submitted a written impact statement. 3.) Unless the mother is being permitted to give a statement to the judge (highly unusual in a plea deal), then she has no reason to be at sentencing. There is also no role for a civil attorney at sentencing. (Suggesting is a big WTF in my mind.) 4.) You are confusing a sentencing hearing after a trial with one after a plea deal.

1.) Depends on what you define as "sensible", doesn't it? 2.) You didn't say less likely to happen, You said they would stop. You also specified the white supremacist shootings, which as terrorist attacks would be the ones less affected by most gun control proposals that been put forth.

That's unusual in criminal cases unless there is a plea bargain. And no, that is not accurate for my state. In general, unless there is a plea to a lesser charge, offenses against younger victims get longer sentences everywhere I have lived. On the flip side, plea bargains in those cases are common as children are tough to use as witnesses for many reasons. I find the child p*rn business case particularly surprising as both state and federal average sentences for CP are very high, partly because those cases have large amounts of physical evidence and also because each image can be counted as a separate offense. Edit: Just went to the sex offender registry for my state. I did a search for those convicted for child molestation and currently incarcerated. First 7 hits were still in prison and have been serving sentences of 9-17 years.

Still do not see what point you think you are making. The victim can submit an impact statement. That does not mean 1.) it will be used after a plea bargain is set, or 2.) that the victim is allowed to testify at sentencing. The mother not attending the sentencing after the plea did not affect the sentence.

Not sure I can agree with this statement. Not sure why you believe Christians can directly stop the actions of others.

I can't comment on Texas, but I can say in the states I have been in there is no 1 month/age of victim rule. Also keep in mind that if someone is sentenced to prison any time served in jail awaiting trial is (correctly) deducted from the prison sentence. FWIW it is rare anyone serves the full time for any sentence, partly due to our prisons being over crowded thanks to our insistence of treating certain nonviolent drug offenses with sentences in the same range as child molestation.

The mother can't just show up and demand to be heard. If she knew the deal was in place and isn't allowed to give a statement, why would you expect her to attend the hearing?

Most states do not require that a victim impact statement be heard after a plea bargain. Based on what I can find online New York is one of the states that doesn't mandate the victim be heard.

For those questioning the sentence, the defendant did take a plea deal which explains partly why he received a lighter sentence. The article did not detail why the deal was reached but on these cases it is commonly because the prosecution is not sure if they get a conviction in court. I did find it surprising the judge went against the prosecution's request regarding the defendant being placed on the registry.

Varies by state but 12 is a common cut off. For example, Alabama: Sexual abuse of a child less than 12 years old, as provided by Section 13A-6-69.1. https://law.justia.com/codes/alabama/2013/title-15/chapter-20a/section-15-20a-5

I am not sure that would be unusual behavior from a 14yo who gets away from kidnappers. Although I don't know if anyone can for certain what normal behavior is in a situation like that. I watched an interview with the woman and his appearance and they way he asked for help seemed to make her believe him.

He has a long wrap sheet and seems to have been involved in some other odd situations. Not sure what to make of him.

Considering he is a decade older than Timmothy I find that unlikely. Most likely this was someone with serious mental issues.

The only thing that makes a little sense is that he is older and possibly mentally ill. A younger teen wouldn't likely be capable of doing this. I was curious as to why the police were being so tight lipped. I am thinking they figured out quickly he wasn't a teen.

He's 24.

I know the family was being cautioned that it may not be him but you know their hopes had to be up. This has to be crushing.

Sounds like acquainted at best. I don't think we will get many answers until they are caught. He seems to have been abused based on what witnesses who saw him after his escape have reported, so clearly he didn't feel safe. And if this is him I assume his permanent home will be with the dad who has never quit looking for him.

I don't think there is any evidence to ask questions about the father. "She also called Jim’s brother. She told him as well that everything was fine, but “Timmothy belongs to me,” according to True Crime Daily." https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/04/04/timmothy-pitzen-bizarre-backstory-his-disappearance/3364096002/ She clearly wasn't well.

I have also read that the men he was with were those he has been with for the past 7 years. I am not reading too much into the back story yet as we are only getting drips (for a good reason).

Them taking advantage of her situation is more likely than them being involved in the suicide. It should be noted she had attempted suicide in the past as well. If she was in the last hotel alone and there was no video of others coming/going then the speculation that her suicide was staged is unlikely.

It seems unlikely based on the evidence. There is video of her buying the paper and pens she used to pen the note, and her son was not with her when she checked into the hotel room in which she committed suicide. If someone was behind this they would have been better off to just make her disappear as the police would always be looking for a mom and son rather than a missing child.

I vaguely recall when this child went missing. https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Everything-We-Know-About-the-Timmothy-Pitzen-Case-508110601.html "A boy appeared in Newport, Kentucky, on Wednesday, claiming to be missing child Timmothy Pitzen. Timmothy's disappearance has remained a mystery since his mother took him out of school and traveled to multiple Midwest water parks in 2011. She was found dead of an apparent suicide in a Rockford motel room and had left a note that the boy was safe but would never be found,"

It isn't a phrasing issue.

They were promoting allowing adults to legally have sex with children. Two different times you claimed they were advocating " decriminalising sex for children" which is outright falsehood. It's hard to claim that these groups were actually part of the sexual revolution when society actually moved in the other direction of criminalizing sexual activity between adults and children during the same time (AOC laws increased in many places, the nearly universal ban against child p*rn, and increased enforcement of laws regarding the sexual abuse of children and the dissemination of child p*orn). Arguing these groups were part of the "real conversation" when they were booted from the conversation via criminal prosecution and other groups refusing to be associated with them is nonsensical. Regarding the bolded, how else would the limits be made? If you try to argue religion, good luck picking which one!

I am calling this out yet again. There was no movement decriminalizing sex *for* children. There were very, very small groups (NAMBLA, PIE and the possibly fictitious Rene Guyon Society) that failed miserably in efforts to decriminalize sex *with* children by lowering the age of consent. Those are not the same things. Based on my limited knowledge of these groups they focused their arguments on children's rights more so than anything to do with forced celibacy. The groups in question were as a rule not given much credibility, and based on a quick search most of those involved were in prison by the 80s. Police investigations moved rather quickly thanks to public pressure, so I think your insinuations that these groups had any sort of acceptability is a serious reach. FWIW during the same time frame you referenced child p*rn was legally available in many places and was sold alongside adult p*rn. By the end of the attempts of these groups to lower the AOC most nations had changed their laws to outlaw it.