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    Help- I do not understand DE credits

    in High School and Self-Education Board

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    On 4/29/2022 at 11:18 AM, Alice said:

    Thanks everyone for the responses. 

    The main thing I’ve gotten out of this discussion is that I probably don’t need to overthink it. 😀 Which is and of itself helpful. My oldest didn’t do DE classes at all for various reasons. He did a lot of AP classes which kind of served the same purpose. So this is all new to me even though I’ve gotten one kid through HS and into college.  We are definitely looking into DE for his brother, my rising 11th grader. For him, the purpose would be more to have an outside experience than to either get college credit that transfers or to look towards selective schools. He is definitely not looking at selective schools. He’s smart but has never enjoyed traditional academics. His transcript is going to embrace the weirdness and individuality of homeschooling. We live in VA and have basically no requirements as far as reporting to the state. (It’s not none, but it’s about as easy as it gets.) So for high school I’ve been comfortable having them do the work that seems to equal a credit and then calling that something on the transcript that sounds reasonable. We don’t have to worry about number of credits so I just try and make sure they are taking about what the local PS students take so it will look normalish to a college. 

    I’m thinking about ASL because he has taken it online and would prefer an in-person class now. He’s taken two years from Open Tent. I know the CC has a placement exam or something that he could do to see what class he would take. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has to somewhat repeat part of it but he has done very well and two teachers have commented that he’s a natural. It’s one of the few classes he likes and he has a solid A...so I’m hoping he wouldn’t be put in an Intro Class. That said, the local CC only is offering a few in-person ASL classes next year so we’re looking at other in-person options.

    One of the main reasons I started this thread I had also thought about Chemistry for him but weirdly the local CC only offers Chem for majors which he has not had enough Math for (they want you to be done with Algebra II and he would be taking Algebra II) or one semester of the Chem for non-majors without a second semester. I felt like it would look weird to only have one semester of a Chem class but it sounds like that might be valid to count as a full high school credit, depending on the colleges he’s applying to. 

    The other reason that I’ve thought about CC classes for him is that he has ADHD and seems to do better with a college type of schedule where he has fewer classes to focus on at a time. So it might work for him to do English one semester and History another. It sounds like it would be valid to do that and count each as one credit. 

    I’m still figuring it out but this discussion has been helpful, so thanks to everyone who chimed in! 

    Have you considered the CLEP route (instead of DE or AP) for Math and Chemistry and... ?

    7th Grade Boy - Negative Experience this year with Exp. Writing/WWS

    in Logic Stage & Middle Grade Challenges

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    I'd have no problem withdrawing him from the course.

    My young man hated WWS. We made the switch to the Writing & Rhetoric series by CAP. We didn't do the online courses through Scholé Academy, but that could be an option for you in the future.

    Scope & Sequence: https://dev.classicalacademicpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/WR-ScopeSequence_2017.pdf

    W&R FAQs: https://classicalacademicpress.com/pages/faqs

    11th Grade Planning Thread 2022-2023

    in High School and Self-Education Board

    Posted · Edited by Aloha2U

    For a better choice of words than I previously used, his ACT or SAT scores could place him in a higher comp class or even allow him to bypass them entirely, earning him credit on his college transcript for the general education requirements in English (ENGL-101 and ENGL-102?) depending on the college.

    For example, at the college he'll be attending, my young man earned English credit for the two aforementioned courses based on placement from his SAT score. At another college he was considering, they'd have only allowed immediate credit for ENGL-101 based on score placement but not ENGL_102 (not allowing for anyone to skip written communication courses entirely).

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    11th Grade Planning Thread 2022-2023

    in High School and Self-Education Board

    Posted · Edited by Aloha2U

    On 1/29/2022 at 11:48 AM, cintinative said:

    Gasp! Y'all, I can't believe I am going to have an 11th grader!! AAAAAH!  

    This is more of a placeholder but I really appreciate these threads as they get me thinking of other things we could do/other ways to approach subjects.

    So I am looking forward to seeing what you all are thinking about for next year!

    Our tentative plans

    • Government--homemade government using American Government: A Complete Coursebook plus updates I have worked on and any primary sources that we didn't finish this year
    • Economics--Glencoe Economics Today and Tomorrow--it's not super recent, but I will supplement with videos
    • Pre-Calculus--we will be using the Larson text plus videos that I purchased (Dana Mosley)
    • Chemistry--Introductory Chemistry by Zumdahl with Illustrated Guide to Home Chemistry Experiments. I do also own a Microchem kit. I haven't gone through the labs at all so that is very open to being changed.
    • Literature--Modern lit with House of Humane Letters
    • Composition--most likely at the community college. Not sure at all what we are doing after/before that.
    • Art--continue drawing with my dad, 0.25 credit
    • Elective--TBD.  We could possibly get into a computer applications class at the community college? Or some kind of design program? Or computer programming? He could do Spanish again but I don't think he wants to. He will have four high school foreign language credits. We need to figure out possible future college major first and figure out what we might want to do in high school to meet gen ed requirements. 
    • Not for credit: continue ACT prep, Bible

    Summer plans

    • Personal Finance--Dave Ramsey's possibly with additions/subtractions, hopefully over the summer
    • YouScience plus surveys, etc. to figure out what we might want to be when we grow up. Possibly do some "career exploration" type stuff. Hopefully this will help to identify the open elective.
    • Start tentatively figuring out potential majors and potential schools
    • I will try not to completely lose it when I consider 1) how to pay for college, 2) if he can even go away to school, and 3) kid's Celiac disease and all the messiness of dealing with the colleges on that.  Seriously y'all, pray for me.

    You may want to reconsider composition at the CC at this time. If he scores well enough on the ACT for which he's prepping, then he may test out of the comp course altogether. That's time and money saved. Perhaps consider a rhetoric/speech course at home in preparation for a communications course (COMM-101?) at the CC after he's taken the ACT Exam.

    After Precalculus with Mosely, CLEP Precalculus could be another avenue to explore in saving time and money, depending on which college accepts it for credit. 

    ETA: Also, depending on your financial institution, some credit unions may offer scholarships ($500-$1,000) to students who take a finance course/seminar through them. 

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    Prioritizing the various aspects of a college search

    in The College Board

    Posted · Edited by Aloha2U

    Looking at this through a different lens...

    Has foregoing the traditional college path and looking to a technical ed or workforce training center been considered? They are usually affiliated with a local community college but offer their own scholarships. What's more, depending on the field, some of the areas offer courses that can be transcribed to the CC and applied towards a degree.

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    Spelling programs?

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    Spell to Write and Read (SWR) along with the WISE guide for spelling are the best diy for beginning reading (with McCall Crabs readers), beginning handwriting (with Cursive First), and spelling (PreK-6th grade) that I would recommend.

    https://www.bhibooks.net/swr.html (SWR Author, curricula and extra materials)

    https://swrtraining.com (Trainer, SWR & Cursive First)

    https://swrtraining.com/swr/ (Trainer, Explanation and Samples)

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    Art of Poetry

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    On 4/11/2022 at 12:58 PM, Slache said:

    How long does this take in weeks? Would I be a fool to attempt it in 6th? Are the DVDs helpful or simply time consuming? What else do I need to know?

    I plan to use Grammar of Poetry in the upper high school years.

    Having used both, I suggest reversing the order in which you plan on using the two different poetry resources (i.e., Grammar of Poetry for grades 6-9; Art of Poetry for grades 7-12). Each are a one-semester course in high school.

    Art of Poetry schedule: https://dev.classicalacademicpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/AOP_suggestedschedule.pdf

    Also, Scholé Academy offers a new online course for AoP. Their syllabus is currently posted and may help with getting an idea about scheduling: https://scholeacademy.com/the-art-of-poetry/

    Grammar of Poetry schedule: https://files.romanroadsstatic.com/uploads/2015/07/Grammar-of-poetry-teachers-edition.pdf

    Grammar Recommendation...

    in High School and Self-Education Board

    Lightning Lit and Notgrass questions, help!

    in High School and Self-Education Board

    Posted · Edited by Aloha2U

    A few I could recommend instead that may fit for you...

    For writing/composition my young man finished the Writing & Rhetoric workbook series. For poetry, we used Art of Poetry. For rhetoric we used Rhetoric Alive! Books I and II. All by Classical Academic Press. (We also used the rest of CAP's logic series as electives.)

    We finished the Old Western Culture series by Roman Roads Media for 1 Literature credit and 1 History/Social Science or Elective credit—each year is a double-credit Humanities course.

    My young man truly enjoyed Exploring Government and Exploring Economics by Notgrass his senior year, but we did not utilize the LA portion/credit. The traditional instruction for writing was not his style.

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    CC and State College concurrent enrollment

    in The College Board

    Posted

    From those with this experience... besides cost, what were the pros and cons to doing this as a degree seeking student, especially when both offer the same AAS, but just do it a little differently? 

    Also, If the SC accepts a math CLEP (though the CC does not), then (in your experience) will that math credit transfer from the SC (transcript) to the CC?

    Credit by Examination

    in The College Board

    Posted · Edited by Aloha2U

    College and apart from CLEP.


    A student enrolled at our CC may petition to challenge courses based on work done through private study and/or employment to validate courses taken at non-accredited institutions. (But they may not challenge a prerequisite course after having completed an advanced course.) Credit is granted for an earned grade of C or better. Neither grades nor credit earned through the challenge process is counted in any given semester to determine credit load or GPA, nor cumulative GPA. The student may challenge a course prior to or during enrollment in a course through the second week of fall or spring semester, or through the first two days of a short course or summer session.

    Has anyone else done this?

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