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  1. I would lean towards the retaking calc 1 option to make sure it’s solid .An extended year review with special focus on the sections that gave him trouble. Could the tutor help with that? Can he retake it in the same program ? would that feel too defeating to him? What is his preference? If the work load is just overwhelming thinking about it, take a break.
  2. I would like to resurrect this thread, because I have there same Question! Maybe throw Novare in there to! We have used BJU for Life Science and Physical Science,(7th and 8th) and while I really like BJU content and thorough coverage, there has to be something better out there for the homeschooler. I think the things I struggle with with BJU is the labs are not great. There are not enough of them for me, and they aren't engaging. Also I haven't found the course provides enough interaction with the material to make it stick. Maybe that is something a good teacher would do, but I need help, even if I was an engineering major. We read the section, discuss the review questions, write down important things. But still lacking. I like the life science student workbook ok but definitely miss it at the physical science level. And the tests. I don't really need tests at this point, but their tests are way too difficult. It maybe part of my problem that I am trying to make 9th grade course work for 8th grade ... but still.. I am determined to find a physical science course. Actually I only need the physics side of it. I want academic rigor, math is fine and good, plenty, easy to do labs (more interested in illustrating point than learning to write a lab report, but gathering data is cool , if its interesting), Interaction with the material! something that will take it to the next level from hearing the information to really understanding it. I need a christian bent too, and have no interest in Apologia. It is actually these three that I am considering Purposeful Design (Does anyone use this at home?), Shepherd (Actually i dont think the physical science is out yet, but life science reviews are helpful too), and Novare (I know lots of you have used this). Tell me what you think! I used ACS middle school chemistry with NOEO for 6th and it was great, great labs, great visualization and engagement, my kids remember that so well. They set the standard high.
  3. I liked youscience . It had an interest survey and some aptitude tests. It also gave a lot of careers for you to look through. And it tells you how you match up to the job, like this one won’t challenge you enough in this area so you may have to use this skill elsewhere.Or you are detail oriented and that is what this job needs. Etc. They have a 1/2 off sale right now through 6/30 code success50 I think we paid $30 so looks like it should be $15 If the price didn’t go up
  4. Ooo that’s good. I mean, we do that once in a while but I’ve never put it in my tool box of school strategies!
  5. My 8 yo is VERY competitive. The best way to get him to do something is to make it a competition. He is not very interested in school, so games and competition are needed to accomplish anything significant. I have a 19 yo who was the same way. Because of family circumstances at the time, he ended up in public school at 5th grade and has thrived with the competition and social element, and so he stayed in school when the others came home 2 years later. So here I am looking ahead at my 8 yo seeing he would probably also thrive in a school setting (though the school is horrible), but I want to try to push that off till high school if possible. We do some school with another boy 3-4 days a week that is 1 year younger and the competition is really becoming a problem. So looking for ideas on how to make homeschooling with a social, competitive boy work. How do you make school work fun and competitive but not make it a race to the finish?? I say every day "Handwriting is not a race!" I can motivate with " if we get all our work done by noon, we can do this" But then the focus is on finishing and not on learning... I need to figure out how to make the competition learning more...., or on the quality ,but have no idea how to do that. He does wrestling and cub scouts to give more options for competition and achievement. How much more do i add? I dont really want to squelch the competition. It seems to me that used well it could really be a benefit to him, but I just dont know how to harness it now, and it is creating quite a bit of friction with other boy when working together and he is fairly unmotivated when it is just him and me. any thoughts?
  6. I have 2nd grader who doesn't like to write. No tears, just stalling, avoiding, and asking/whining to do less. I was looking at Apples and Pears spelling and the comments on it being lots of writing. So Initially I would run away from it. But I have got to thinking...I might be able to drop some of the other writing he does in favor of Apples and Pears Spelling and also split up the lessons. Some of the things I have noticed this year: The WWE2 dictations are above his spelling level. Wouldnt it make sense to do sentences that have more words he could spell? Is there something special about WWE dictation sentences except that she points out the mechanics with each one? One nice thing about WWE/WWS is that the skills grow steadily, so that is one advantage I guess. We love the narration passages, but I am shortening the dictation passages to be more tolerable for him. I'm also coming to believe that good spelling comes with practice. One of the reasons I got MCP plaid is there is lots of opportunity to practice writing words with focus on phonograms, hearing the different sounds, adding endings,prefixes, looking at roots. We also switched from LOE D to SWR at Christmas to drill some of those easier words he want getting enough. And being an Engineer I love the rules and the way SWR uses them.:) I'm not using it to its full potential though, just cuz I'm trying to keep it short and sweet and let the MCP plaid be more of the practice, though hes not practicing the words he is learning in SWR there. I've seen some improvement in his dictation (asking for less help on the easy words and more spelled right) still hard but any progress is good, amen? Currently I have worked him up to tolerating the following for LA: 1 MCP plaid C phonics page each day (most of it anyway) 10-20 words SWR (write 10 words M & Tu, Oral on W, 1 ,maybe 2, dictation sentences TH, and F test on 20 words on white board) WWE2 (T,W shortened copy work or dictation and F he writes one sentence of his Th narration) RFH we do at a separate time daily with a friend and once or twice a week a sentence for history. FLL2 , vocab all oral So I got to thinking that next year maybe apples and pears would be alittle more cohesive. And I could cut out some other things. I could cut MCP Plaid (though I already bought it ) because I would be getting the practice, though I still feel like I would be missing something, D goes over alot of advance phonograms that look helpful, but it also feels like there is too much repetition in there, I just dont know how to cut, (and D is just 1 color) . I could drop SWR and still use my knowledge of the rules to reinforce and I could drop the Dictations from WWE3, which looked alittle hard to condense. I think I would still like to use the narrations and composing days of WWE , but might still feel like I am missing out. Its alittle hard to give up SWR too, even though I dont do all the steps I should , it just makes sense to me. My plan all along has been to move to Megawords around 4th grade, so not quite sure how I would make that transition, if I still wanted to . And starting with A in third grade I think I would feel the need to push him more than I should.. instead of going at a pace his writing could handle... So next year - 3rd Grade should I do apples and pears (starting 1/2 way though A) - and narration/composition days of WWE3 ? OR MCP Plaid D, SWR , and WWE3? either way he will do R&S english 3 mostly oral (grammar sections), RFH, and some history sentences. I guess I need some help on how well apples and pears can fill the hole if i drop MCP plaid. and that the dictations in there will be enough to replace WWE. Are there parts he could do on a white board? he is happier on a white board. And then the question you can't answer, will I be able to adapt to keep him from freaking out at the amount of writing?
  7. The body book is great but it is a lot of cutting for a first grader depending on the first grader. my sons coop class colored a t-shirt that has all the internal organs pre printed on it. And that was really cool. Looks like you can get them at for $5. They used the guts one
  8. I have three supplemental workbooks (Building thinking skills, Reading and reasoning, and Word Roots) that I want to schedule over 2 years. But I cant decide how to do it? Do I put each one a day or two a week? or do I start with one and just go till its done and start the next? I'm debating over continuity of doing the same thing for a while to keep the flow, or coming back to something every week could be good review that helps it stick. Maybe BTS continually and then reading and reasoning one year and word roots the next? I dont know. I have been staring at this all day I guess part of me just wants to keep it simple and the number of books we have to manage at a minimum and my kid has to have pretty similar expectations every day/ week otherwise he gets all bent out of shape and refuses. How do you do it?
  9. I usually started with the review in the teachers guide. That reminded us what we did before. Then we just read through the student text explanation, that was more than enough. We chose to do most of the exercises orally, even diagramming (I had a page of generic diagrams and sometimes had them just show me which one they would pick and where to put each word). Some exercises I had them write out because mechanics just need to be practiced. Some I just had then mark up the text and considered it consumable. I usually let them do the worksheets as independent practice. We also did another writing program so we skipped most of the writing lessons, which were usually easy to pick out cuz they had a special border on the lesson or star in the table of contents.
  10. These vocab cards interest me and look like they might do what you want , but they are rediculously expensive and they don’t show you the back.
  11. You could do more than one a year ... we are doing astronomy in 20wks this year 3- 4 days a week. We don’t do any writing, but lots of activities. I spent the rest of the year on earth science 5wks on weather and 7wks on rocks/plate tectonics. , I just pulled together resources -picture books with some Gods design lessons and Janice van cleave activities I haven’t used much of the other books they may require more time
  12. My daughter went from Singapore 6 to bju foundations. (Then bju pre-a and Alg) Well actually I can’t remember if she finished 6 then started or did it concurrently... My daughter also had trouble remembering things. I felt bju was good for her that it provided more practice and review than Singapore and a larger scope (we used US edition). I taught straight from the text explanation and it was all I needed. But I’m also trained as engineer, so I don’t need much. But the teachers guide was great for the answer key and help deciding which problems to assign. It is a large step up in workload and ,at least foundations, was working from a text book not a workbook (I am not familiar with bju 6 and I understood Foundations to be 7 but I could be wrong ). So definitely be prepared for more time spent. With this child I put in all the review it provided , even bought the extra student activities for the cumulative review. There was also enough challenge for more other kid who was more mathy. I just cut those out for her. Just have to say that using BJU brought out my love for math, and math became my daughters favorite subject despite the workload. So I know my review isn’t exactly the grades you are asking but maybe it is close enough to be helpful
  13. I second the sonlight suggestion for history and literature. It is *great* for an avid reader. It’s not a textbook, but almost always uses a spine that connects thing and the books are an incredible way to learn history and makes it so memorable. Love it!
  14. I think I must not have gotten the memo on this or am still just too uncool, cuz I could talk about curriculum all day
  15. We went to Glacier last summer and i thought this one was cute, alittle too much info for my 7yo but it had a page for each animal , plant or site to see ,with picture , then a description , where to find it in the park, and a place to record when and where you saw it, kind of set up like a nature journal sort of , wish we would have had it at the beginning of the trip instead of the end. What I saw in Glacier:A Kids guide to the National Park
  16. I haven’t used any master books but this week I spent A LOT of time looking through the new language arts samples.i was SO drawn to it. I was looking for something to condense our language arts a bit. And it seemed to have all the pieces. But the more I looked at the content I’m like it doesn’t compare at all to WWE strong literature selections. And we can’t do spelling 1-2 days a week ,( actually I don’t think doing it 5 days is covering it well enough at our house. 😄). But even after deciding it wouldn’t fit what I wanted I still wanted it! So I had to figure it what it was that was drawing me so strongly. I decided that it was most significantly that it was so visually appealing. That’s what it came down to. I liked looking at it. And I also liked that each day was set up in manageable chunks, each day starting a new page. Now I’m ruined. I can’t find anything else that competes on the visual scale. at all. I can hardly even look at others, which is so rediculous . Why does it matter! (I keep asking myself) Anyway so that’s my guess, they got a great graphic design and marketing department
  17. I used Singapore through 6 then went to BJU pre-algebra. I also use Singpore as my basic scope and sequence and add in more practice to address trouble spots with parts of other programs I think it might actually be helpful to do some of BJU before pre-algebra. Like you said it has a wider scope so you could cover some topics Singapore doesn't and the Jump in workload from Singapore to BJU is significant, I thought. So it might be a gentler introduction if you were already doing a page a week or something like that from BJU. I also agree that if you have a strong math student the CWP are a great supplement to take their thinking deeper.
  18. I have been using LOC D this year with my 2nd grader . D does not teach many more phonograms, but I do find the rules reinforcement helpful. Silent E rules, making words plural, adding suffixes. There was a lot of practice in these and I thought it was very helpful and definitely reinforced the idea. I liked how the dictations and some activities were intergrated with the books they were reading. The problem came because he needed more reading practice, and the spelling words became a little too difficult so I went to using it for exposure so I could teach the rules, but then realized he was still having trouble with some of the really easy words so I needed to step back and focus on learning words in his grasp. I don’t think I will go back, maybe just pulling a couple of worksheets out. So for you situation, since she catches on so quick when you get it to end of C she should be reading fairly well. So you want to keep going with phonics/spelling but won’t necessarily need a reading program. Just keep her supplied with lots of books and have her read everyday. So for phonics I have been using MCP Plaid phonics and I think that would be great for you. It is a worksheet a day that teaches/practices a phonics rule. Little instruction and off she goes. There is lots in there , in my younger days I would have seen it as busy work but I’m coming to learn the value of writing to learn writing😜. But even so there maybe too much practice in there for you , you could skip pages along the way. The method is a hair different than loe in the way it deals with long vowels, so On those pages I would just reinforce the phonograms not reading their little blurb that the “first vowel says it’s long sound” Over all I found it useful for spelling/phonics practice. We started MCP B while he was in LOE C and he is in C now and 1/2 way through LoE D The online samples don’t give very good overview of exercises , but they are VERY varied. SWR is a really good follow up to LOE for spelling because it uses the same phonograms and rules, (if you like the rules ) I always found it difficult to go to a traditional program after learning the rules. I actually like swr’s rule phrasing better. SWR can require a bit from the teacher but seems like less than AAS and it seems more efficient when she won’t need a lot of work there. I agree that you can wait on spelling , but it’s good to have something to keep the skill fresh in the mean time Anyway After loe C if she was pretty fluent I would have her read every day, and phonics page out of MCP and later when you feel the need and have the space start spelling with swr. (Though it you wait too long she may forget the phonograms) At 6 with a child who writes a lot in her own you really don’t need to start a program yet. Keep encouraging the writing and maybe doing copywork/dictation to teach the mechanics. If you need a guide for that maybe WWE, or there are others I haven’t used....
  19. I have used it twice with my eighth graders. I didn’t use all of it in the sense that I didn’t require them to do the extra writing projects and research projects and we discussed everything instead of filling in blanks. I did push for them to do the one paragraph per chapter that basically was “this is what I believe” on this subject and encouraged them to do some of the scripture study on their own, hoping to grow their ownership a bit. We used it with the expectation of exposure and discussion starters. I think it did that really well. I particularly liked the videos in the first sections done by cedarville (I think) The content was good and clear. Some of the later videos were alittle dated. (I do have the first edition. ) The second half deals with different issues marriage, law, government, politics, history. As it walked through those I struggled just because while I desire for my kids to be critical thinkers, if they are going to be it is going to come from their dad not me!! But it was good that we could draw him into the conversation some. I think it was a great opportunity for my daughter particularly to articulate herself alittle more and ask some questions. For my son, I didn’t have too much bandwidth for much discussion that year, but I still think it was helpful. There wasn’t too much I disagreed with, there was some, but that gave us the opportunity to discuss the different sides. I will use it again.
  20. I love the Berenstain Bears Big book of Science and Nature for a 5 yo. Great rhyme and rhythm and great science topics too
  21. I would completely agree there is no need for alarm,but I might also try some things to encourage them to engage their mind alittle more and practice listening well. If they aren’t interested I don’t want them developing a habit of checking out. Maybe I would not read the whole chapter before stopping to ask questions or what they remember. Or maybe I just wouldn’t read the whole chapter at all, sometimes there is more than one topic in a chapter and maybe just one is enough, skip the other. And definitely picture books are always good way to engage more and help them remember.
  22. We are soon to be adopting an elementary boy who is a spanish speaker. Can anyone give me some thoughts about activities, resources , or things to consider about how to begin communicating quickly and an ongoing plan to develop english skills. Our spanish is about equivalent to about 2 years of high school spanish, and I have been doing doulingo. thanks dudley
  23. I sought out a pre algebra program that had sections on negitive number and probability and exponents ,(sm briefly covers exponents I think) I settled on BJU , it also added scientific notion as a bonus. im not familiar with what you chose, I have used the first book in the key to algebra series to cover negative numbers, it does pretty well and it is kind of nicely self contained. It’s subtitle is operations with integers, but it covers what is a negative number how to add and subtract and multiply and divide them as well as prime factorization and order of operations. It would be a excellent bridge option to another program that requires negative number knowledge
  24. I would agree with most of this, mystery science was fun, but for some reason was harder for me to sit and actually do with him. i love noeo , mostly because it was open and go and get it done. The biggest thing was it was doable and it got done. At times it felt light, but when my kids got through level 2 I was very pleased with their science knowledge. For the notebooking we focused on writing down definitions and drawing some pictures (when subject called for a picture). Towards 6th grade I was trying to get more of an outline or narrations. After a couple times through the program the experiments were less exciting, but again, they got done. Best thing about it. The books are much more visual friendly and interesting than a text book, we particularly liked the chem 2 and one year I had energy and paired it with middle school chemistry by ACS awesome!
  25. Each drawing is separate. though one week might build on another as you are learning to draw a larger area. but each drawing you start with a clean sheet of paper, that is effectively practice for the big project. At the end of the year, we spent about 2-3 weeks where we took all we learned and starting on a blank large poster we drew one new map of the world. and as I look back at the lessons, there is correlation that as you read about the discovery of japan you may draw japan, but that is not every week.
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