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  1. I have learned so much from this forum but this is my first response, hopefully I will have done it correctly. Please forgive me if not. Background, we are a career military family with enough space between children that we have experienced this issue/s over several years with varying scenarios such as you describe. The short answer is... there is not one answer. Every state school seems to have their own requirements/threshold for determining "in state" tuition and/or residency for these purposes. For some schools, that is "do you pay taxes in this state?" and if the answer is "no" then you may fall under the military allowance clause and just have to provide documentation such as orders, deers eligibly etc. EVEN IF your child had lived in that state and attended public schools for years. Some states that are your HOR (Home of Record) offer what is known as reciprocity for Active duty members and their family and will allow in-state tuition while you are away. Some will allow it only if you attest it is your intention to return to that state permanently after release from service. In my experience not all public schools within the same state follow the same guidelines. (I'm not saying that makes sense, only that it has been my experience) Though I'm sure if you wanted to push the issue you could likely make your case. Another scenario (bear with me as this is likely to be confusing, especially to those not in the military) is when your child "lives" in one state and you reside in another and the military member HOR is a third state. Again depends on the school but what we have seen is that the child that lives in one state (not yet started college) is not considered a resident of that state as long as you are still claiming them on your tax return and they have not taken steps to create residency in that state (i.e. register to vote, get drivers license, have a job) This can work to your advantage or against it if you plan accordingly. For example, if I had known my youngest child would not automatically be considered a resident of the state where she grew up and lived so long and went to school and they would only give her in-state tuition strictly based on orders to the state, we could have secured that in-state tuition elsewhere instead and had more options. Final note is that it can depend on the type/length of orders. Sometimes the military member has HOR in one state, is stationed in another state and is TDY for longer length of time to third state. In this case the TDY state is not generally considered eligible for in-state tuition because of the type of orders and the fact the family still resides in the previous state. Though once you receive and begin with in-state tuition at college, you are generally able to remain that way and would be hard pressed to have the residency changed even if you moved. My best advice is to echo the previous response about calling the schools you might even think of considering and talk to them but understand that they change these policies, so don't count on information you gather now being relevant in 3 years or so. And in my experience, call back and talk to more than one person in admissions because sometimes the people don't actually know the correct answer and give incorrect information. I hope some of that is helpful.
  2. If helpful, I can offer two differing points of view. We tried Laurel Springs School year before last for 9th grade, having a student who is very bright and heavily involved in pursuing a pre-professional career as well as having her sights set on attending a top tier university. The option seemed a great fit with enough flexibility as well as direct teacher involvement, oversight, and accredited reporting. I was excited for what it promised. In short, I do not believe it delivered and we did not continue. Some of the issues we encountered are as described above with work going "missing" (that I had even been sitting next to her while she completed). Though there were some teachers I found to be helpful, the overall model had much less involvement and feedback than I had expected. A couple of the classes were terrible with multiple "broken links" and links that lead to exhaustively long material or material clearly too advanced (i.e.: medical school textbook entries for biology class) or did not actually provide the answer to the questions. After reading and rereading the material several times myself, I contacted the teacher to discuss and the answer back to me was to skip the link and simply "google" the answers. That situation only got worse as the class continued as that became the go-to directive when problems arose. I also found through this "googling" process, the assignments were the same as many other free online public school options like connections academy. The second view I can offer is from our friends who shared a similar schedule and began at the same time. They are currently still pursuing the program. Though I do not believe they would sing praises for the program, it does off them a complete solution with little planning needed from parent. They had some different teachers who were more helpful and engaging that first year as well as a wonderful guidance counselor. This last year however, the counselor has been changed 3 or 4 times and therefor is not of much value in overseeing the progress of the student. Sill, they feel it suits their needs and offers the accreditation and oversight that would seemingly remove some of the need to "prove" educational materials. This student is taking advantage of some honors classes but is intent on pursuing an arts based college experience or directly stepping into a professional environment so perhaps the academic concerns are different, more checking the box. One special note: Laurel Springs School may be an accredited online private school and may tell you that your credits automatically transfer as any other ps would should you return to b&m, this is not the case. In my state/county it is still considered home schooling (needing declaration and oversight) AND none of the credits are accepted for transfer into ps. I asked this direct question of the head of LSS before enrolling and was given incorrect information. I also later learned form our county home school office that LSS tells people that every year and they call them every year and tell them it is not correct- LSS continues to tell people the same incorrect information. I can share more detailed information as to why I would not recommend should you find that helpful, feel free to pm me.
  3. Though I am just now officially joining the conversations, I have gleaned a wealth of information and knowledge over the years from these boards and your generous sharing of experiences. I believe starting with a great big thank you makes the most sense...so THANK YOU ALL! I home schooled when the kids were younger and then came back to it when my youngest was in middle school and now we are finding our way through High school... hopefully joyfully with the same love and heart and excitement of a preschooler whose eyes are wide open to this wonderful learning world.
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