Wow! That was a quick response. Thanks for the info!

Hello out there! I haven't been on this board in ages. Does anyone know if there is a way to get the audio version of SOTW (not the physical CDs) in a downloadable format or online via audible, iTunes, anything? Thanks!

Since I was already in the process of looking for a plan to copy, I thought I'd paste some information here and maybe that might clear some things up. Here is the group's description taken from the group page, emphasis added: This group is not a homeschool support group. It is designed to be a place to store NON-Copywrited lesson plans that have been exported from a homeschool curriculum planning software called Homeschool Tracker Plus and no other purpose. Here is just a sampling of some files stored on one of the 3 language arts groups. Each successive one is an overflow of another, so it's not always quick to find the one you want, but I'm not complaining because I can't volunteer to redo it so I'm not expecting anyone else to. I appreciate that it's even there! The group's files are not alphabetized: Evan Moor Workbooks Language Arts & Social Studies workbooks by Evan Moor Vocabulary From Classical Root lesson plans for levels 4-6 Spelling Workout overflow from la2 Memoria Press Literature Study Building Spelling Skills These are the Christian Liberty Pres Books. Very simple lesson plans. Handwriting by George Copywork exercises from George Washington's "Rules of Civility & Decent Behaviour in Company & Conversation" Analogies Sequential Spelling Grammar Songs English from the Roots Up Easy Grammar Handwriting Without Tears Getty Dubay Italic Handwriting Dictations Various resources for home-created dictation lessons IEW Institute for Excellence in Writing plans Explode the Code Essentials in Writing Analytical Grammar Analytical Grammar Lesson Plans Applications of Grammar The name of this particular group is hst-LA3. The various groups are organized by subject, for the most part. There are math and science and other groups as well. Hope this helps! PS: HST tells you on their site about the lesson plan sharing group. http://www.homeschooltracker.com/tracker-plus-lp/

I don't use HST Online, never have. I bought HST Plus years ago. I wonder if we mean different things by "using other people's plans" or "copy lesson plans"? :confused1: What I mean is that I download someone else's lesson plan, e.g. apologia astronomy (which I just downloaded last week), it opens a dialog box so that I can use the items as the original person labeled it or my own, save and done. Open it in my HSTPLUS. I get the plans from the HST yahoo group, download it and open it with HST. There are several groups with tons of plans. I can include the links if interested. What plan do you need? Hope this makes sense and helps!

HST does. I use other people's plans all the time!

Thanks for the suggestion. Thinking through and responding to them has helped me to more precisely pinpoint what really is lacking and also to recognize some strengths. She has the skills to write well (and yes, she did do Windows to the World) she just needs more practice and confidence.) I think that I have probably been going through my typical it's-the-last-year-did-we-miss-anything syndrome. I had that briefly before but somehow it has been a little different this time because I have not been satisfied with our recent get 'er done approach. (It's one thing to do what you know to do and trust that it will go well -- as was the case with the first three. They've all done well after high school and are doing what they wanted to do. But this time homeschooling high school hasn't been what I've wanted/thought we needed but the Lord knows why our time has been limited, so I can still have confidence.) So, now that that is all recognized, we will do our best to fill in what gaps we can the best way we know how and trust the Lord for the rest. We have put Him first, so I can have confidence in His promises that He will add the rest as we follow Him. Ahhhh, schooling forever and still learning..... Thanks all! (What a nice feeling it gives me to hear my 23 year-old son teaching math to his 7 year-old sister using the same curriculum (updated) that he used at that age.)

Thanks! I've never heard of it but I'll look into. Do they have modern history? She did do Americ. Hist already with the Lifepacs at least, but she's never done modern world history. And it's all laid out? (Well, I'll try to find it and then I can answer my own question!) One of the main reasons I like TQ is its commentary so whatever I do, I will probably at least get one TQ guide to supplement.

Yes, OhElizabeth, that is what I was referring to. About the research paper, it must be a typed 15 page research paper. That is a graduation requirement for WCFS. And thanks, Candid, for your admonishment and suggestion. So here's a little more background and where we are since my post: My daughter's areas I want to strengthen: writing/communication history comprehension, e.g. an overall understanding and ability to fit together, connect the dots, analyze historical people and events. Her remaining graduation requirements: 1 credit Bible 1 credit English 15-page research paper PE Work Study She does not need any more history or anymore elective credits for that matter. So part of our plan is that her English credit will come from Historical literature and essays about what she is learning whether through reading or videos, etc. The paper could also be on whatever topic in history interests her most, but right now she thinks that that would be harder that just writing about a topic that really interests her. She does already appreciate history and what she learned when we did MFW was retained so much more, obviously, than the Alpha Omega workbooks. She also did retain some history from Str. of Civ. but the goal was to hurry and get done. What she retained most was what she and her brother talked about, e.g. Hannibal, etc. So, whatever she does, her brother and sister will likely do as well so that there will be discussion. I like the questions and notes in TQ so that's why I would like to include at least some of it. Also, since she has at least some comprehension from SOC1 and more from Creation to the Greeks (MFW), I'm thinking that we'd just review what she has done, try to connect a few dots and spend more time on the rest of history, getting deep in just one time period. I like your suggestion about the AOR3 and guest hollow, that site looks great . In terms of getting English credits instead of History, I'm thinking the TQ questions would make good essay topics that will help with analyzing and she can also write about what interests her. So, thanks Candid and OhElizabeth for your suggestions, they have been helping me process.

I didn't quote you in my response but I wanted to highlight this nugget. Thanks again for your "2 cents."

Thanks OhElizabeth for taking this time to make this well-thought post. I must confess that I do not have the TQ materials yet, so perhaps what I am suggesting is preposterous. Based on what I read and on the samples, I thought that TQ wasn't actually a plan but more a list with thought provokers. The options floating in my head were: Use the SCM guides/plans to help me whittle down the TQ, and then whittle the SCM down even more to core concepts in each period. Take the four spines mentioned in TQ for those who have to do it all in 1 year and see if I could use that with a SCM plan. Just pick and chose from the TQ and make my own plan. Whatever the case literature, writing, and Bible would be integrated with the history which would spread the history out across the subjects. In reality, she only needs a few courses to complete her senior year with the minimum requirements one of which is a 15 page research paper. And they like to read so their free time books would also come from history. So history in everything! At the dinner table tonight I was discussing the changes I want to make and why. I also suggested that my 15 yr old ds do his research paper on a historical topic and that my daughter (the senior) could continue with her Bible topic that she was planning for her research paper or she could change to history if she wanted or do Bible History... Here are the responses I got: 15 yr old son: :hurray: Wow, this is great! Can I do the revolutionary war? (He wants to do his 15 page paper this year instead of waiting til he's a senior, we'll see.) 20 yr old daughter who is CLEPing her general ed. requirements: :ohmy: Mom, oh my goodness! I am so glad I'm done with school. [Wrong response! at least out loud :) ] I think she was kidding... Daughter whose senior year is going to be affected: :mellow: "Well, I only have a few courses to graduate anyway." Later she said she thought it sounds good. :thumbup1: All that to say, I think that we will at least all be unified in purpose. I really like your dvd ideas (we've done a little of that before) and about letting them pick the books and zeroing in on what they are REALLY INTERESTED in. That way they will own this change. I am also following another thread in which the same basic question is being asked (without the TQ part): http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/488091-please-help-with-condensed-world-history/ THANKS SO MUCH!

That's good to know! Yeah! I haven't ordered from RR since I lived in the states (or at least not without having it delivered to family to be picked up when I visit).

Yes, I am on that group, (and two on yahoo) thanks! Just wondering if there is anything else ... (spoiled American adapting to homeschooling in Canada, wishing I could get most of my books inexpensively and/or used).

:iagree: (Wish there was something closer and need sleep!)

:bigear: I need the do the same thing but trying to figure out how to do it with TruthQuest, if possible, but if not, I'll need other options.

Hi all, I'm looking for places to find used curriculum in Canada. I've searched online but often links in blog posts are no longer good and the page/site/store/group no longer exists. I usually get my stuff when I'm in the US (much cheaper anyway) but it will be a while before I head to the States. Here are the resources that I know of: Homeschooler Haven http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/homeschoolerhaven/info Canbookexchange, http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Canbookexchange/info Homeschool swap on Facebook Is there anything else out there?