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  1. Wow! Did that hurt? It sounds terribly painful. :w00t: I assume they use anesthetic. Did they give you a shot in your toe? I've had an ingrown toenail or two and I'm sitting here, toes curled, unable to straighten them out just thinking of having someone cut the sides of my nails off.
  2. We got it from the Preamble to the Constitution. Something about... "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
  3. I disagree. And I'm sorry this threatens you so much. What gay people want is the right to choose their partner, a right that you and I take for granted. I don't see how extending basic human rights to a large portion of our population will result in the wholesale flushing of all our morals and ethics. Arguing that if I am for same-sex marriage I am also for sex with children and animals doesn't further the argument. Please see Straw Man Argument.
  4. Go open another thread for that. This thread is about how gay marriage hurts straight marriage. I'm sure a thread on incest would be lively.
  5. Why would you even go there? My question has to do with whether gay marriage will or will not hurt my marriage.
  6. People who support gay marriage are not a very small minority. The citizens of five states have already unequivocally said yes to gay marriage. Each year more states will allow it. It is inevitable because it is right and it is just. As to polygamy, the only problem I have with it is the way it is practiced in Utah -- middle aged men with pre-pubescent girls. But that's not polygamy. That's child abuse and not to be confused. If three people of adult age decide they want to throw in their lot together and raise a family, I could care less.
  7. I have to agree. I don't see how two moms and a dad or any other combination of parents that love and cherish a child can be harmful. The child could only be harmed by the people who tell him that his parents are all going to burn in hell. In this case, I only see a threat from outside, not inside the home.
  8. Divorce rates among conservative Christians are already bad. Their marriages crumble with the same or more frequency than the rest of the population. Withholding equal rights from another segment of that population doesn't seem like the right way to address this. See http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm
  9. I can see this. It seems reasonable that if one type of non-traditional marriage is allowed, other types might follow. They said this about interracial marriage which was considered unnatural and sinful just a few decades ago. We allowed that, and now some states are actually allowing people of the same gender to do it. I absolutely agree that it is a slippery slope when you start giving everyone equal rights. Still, even if polygamy were allowed, how does it hurt my marriage? That's all I'm looking for. How does it affect me.
  10. So what you are saying is that there is no factual basis for this theory other than what it says in the Bible, yes? I'll consider what it says in the Bible. What does it say about the threat of gay marriage to traditional marriage? Again, not whether it's right or wrong. I just want to know how it affects me, a straight suburban housewife.
  11. I finally tackled the two junk drawers in my kitchen, and the cabinet where all my trays and platters stand in racks. It was a no-man's land. Nothing was standing in racks anymore, it was just a mound of glass, ceramic, metal, and melamine. I took everything out, got rid of half of it, snapped the racks back in and organized it. The junk drawers are not organized neatly with note pads, pens, pencils, and all the little things that should be in the kitchen junk drawer. If it wasn't for this thread getting me motivated, I'd still be wondering what was under the pile.
  12. I just read an article on New Hampshire being the fifth state that allows gay marriage. While discussing it with a friend this morning, she came up again with the argument that same sex marriage will hurt our own marriages. She was unable to articulate exactly how this will happen, but it's not the first time I've heard this. Can someone explain this theory to me? Please, no Biblical quotes. I really, honestly want to understand how gay marriage hurts my marriage, not what the Judeo-Christian God has to say about it. This is the third time I have had this conversation with someone that can't quite pin-point how it will hurt traditional marriage, but they're convinced it will. (Frankly, this smells of indoctrination. When one has a strong opinion, one can usually articulate why.) No flames, please. I don't want to discuss whether it's right or wrong. I just want to understand what is behind this theory. Thanks.
  13. We love TT. It's ds's favorite math program. It moves very quickly for him - 2 lessons a day. We supplement with other things according to his current need, but we'd do that with any program. TT is NOT an inferior program. It moves as fast and as thoroughly as your child is capable of moving. We're doing double time, and ds has learned more math with TT than he ever did with Singapore Math or any other problem. His math skills are amazing. Also, a previous poster said her child lost his/her critical thinking skills because she switched to TT. I have found the opposite to be true, so your mileage may vary. Ds can think much faster on his feet now that he's been doing TT for the better part of the academic year. When we've segued back to SM, he can do all the problems without any help.
  14. I think this statement is incredibly over-broad. Perhaps where you come from people raise children to support them. I am a Hispanic/Latin and I have never been expected to support my parents. They worked hard all their lives and saved enough to retire decently and not be a burden to anyone. None of my extended family does this. None of my friends do this. No one I know is supporting their parents except one extremely rich lawyer who cannot bear to see his mother living off Social Security. In his case, it's absolutely the right thing to do, but it was not expected and certainly his mother did not require it.
  15. Since he has never made any effort to be your father, you are under no obligation, legal or moral, to lift a finger for him. Contributing genetic material does not make one a parent. Ask any sperm donor. Look at this as a business opportunity. 1. How much cash will you inherit if you become part of his life again? 2. How much effort and time will it require on your part? 3. When you consider 1 and 2 above, is it a good deal? That's your answer.
  16. Why? Because you were cautions and weren't ready to give your daughter mind-rewiring drugs until you tried everything else? I would have done the same thing. That being said, Prozac is my friend. It's been there when I've needed it, and made my life (and that of my family) much, much better when I've been depressed. I'm very happy it's working for her. It will make a huge difference in her life. :001_smile:
  17. Exactly! In my opinion it's a waste of time to force children to be one religion or the other. When they're adults they'll find their way. I teach my son that God is a construct created by man. He agrees with me now. When he's 30, for all I know, he might be a missionary. I have no control over my son's mind right now, much less when he's an adult. I do know that if I force him to do something he considers unpleasant over and over again, I may not get the results I'm after.
  18. I guess this can go both ways. Growing up, I went to church two or three times a week. Sunday mornings was the worst. It was the one thing I feared all week -- working up to Sunday, getting up before I was ready to, going to see people I didn't care about at all, and trying to sit still in a crowded church while the preacher droned on and on and on and on. When I was old enough to just say no, I did. I never stepped foot in a church again, and I'm fairly certain that my negative views on all religion are directly related to having been forced as a child to submit to church and prayer circles and all that other stuff my mom was so fond of. I agree that kids don't always want the things that are best for them. Gosh, they almost never do! But forcing children to go to church so they'll be good Christians when they grow up may or may not work out. All those years of church made me the happy atheist I am today. My poor mom never got over it. She was really never able to understand how forcing me to do something I hated with all my heart for all those years didn't make me love it. Also, I should note that she, the preacher, the preacher's wife, and every person in that church prayed for my wayward soul.:lol: So much for the power of prayer. Just my opinion, based on my life experience.
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