I think that sort of situation requires an adult's judgement. I would expect/advise dd to wake us. The friend being picked up could be in need of medical attention. I don't know that most teens would be able to recognize that if they saw it. Or what if friend has passed out inside the party and needs to be retrieved? What if others attempt to intervene? There is just too much that can go wrong. Some are mean when they are drunk, most are complete idiots at best. That can be a bit to manage. Dd has never been around a drunk person. I'm pretty sure it would make her nervous. Dd had a slight run-in with underage drinking recently. She went to a friend's slumber party. It included two older girls who coerced a younger sibling of dd's friend (host of the party) into drinking. There was only one beer in the house and the three split it. Dd, friend, and a few others were in another room unaware. When dd discovered what had happened, she panicked and assumed that the sibling (only 13yo) was now drunk. She wanted her friend to go wake her parents. Everyone tried to "contain" dd and convince her to be quiet etc. Many words (and a mild threat) were spoken to dd. She got very upset. Dd texted us to pick her up immediately. Honestly, it scared the snot out of us because we were expecting a much different/worse scene. Thankfully,it wasn't what we had imagined. Dh called the parents of the friend (host) and sibling, once he removed dd, and told them they had a small situation to tend to downstairs. I bring this up just to show how emotions, lack of experience, and other people could change situations for the worst rather quickly, thankfully this ended just fine.

No problems here. Dd started the series at the latter part of 13. I'm glad we did it.

I would think/hope that by the time the call for the vote comes, she has already done all of her research, debate, and "thinking time" and knows whether she is saying yay or nay. A baby won't affect her ability to say either. It doesn't sound, from what I read, that she is trying to have the baby with her in the midst of extensive presentation or debate. I don't see why we can't at least try this. If it doesn't work well, she will make other arrangements. Irreparable harm will not be done if the baby starts crying, and she has to take 90 seconds to exit the room. It's not brain surgery for goodness sake.

We go 2-3 times a year to the Outer Banks. If you like bbq, Pigman's is a must! We love Duck Donuts! Jolly Rogers is a fun little place and delicious! Slice has great pizza and is beside a Duck donuts...one stop dining :) The Aquarium in Manteo is a must. It is small but the turtle rescue area is so neat. You can see various turtles being rehabbed, see local sharks, and pet some rays. eta...Jockeys ridge is so much fun and good exercise. Climb to the top and you can see the sound on one side and the ocean on the other. Kite flying there is fun but can be tricky, you need good quality kites. If you are up for a drive, go south and see Hatteras lighthouse then take the ferry to Ocracoke.

If you can't see (without manipulating the packages) the carrier info to call them, then I would look up the non-emergency number for the police dept.

I have heard of other services (like UPS) renting uhauls during busy seasons. Are there other adults at your residence (dh or adult kids) who may have ordered something?

Hmmm. That's weird. Who are they addressed to if not you? Just curious, are there names on them, both to the same person, or not named at all? You can call your police non-emergency number and describe the situation. eta: for clarity

I was 37. I was very concerned based on things that I had read, so I also asked people here too :lol: . But, I am very glad i did it. My issues were related to endometriosis and what turned out to be adenomyosis. I was concerned about changes regarding desire for/during TeA. I am happy to say that there were only positive changes in that dept. ;) ETA: my ovaries were not removed. I think that makes the biggest difference in outcomes.

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Prayers have been lifted! :grouphug: I'm so sorry...I don't even know what to say other than I will continue to pray throughout the day... :crying: Please let us know, when you can, how they do in surgery.

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In regards to treatments/therapies... I have seen neurofeedback be at least moderately effective in different situations to include milder attachment problems and PTSS/trauma.

Rather than the mental hospital model, I would rather see more therapeutic group homes. These are more expensive but much more effective and don't isolate from society. If a young person can't succeed there then a hospital is certainly warranted. so I do think we still need them. I just think that funding and red tape need to be streamlined, and better guidance provided as to the available options. But I would like to see more intensive in-home therapy and therapeutic group home options put forth. So much more could be done with this model and it feels like a much less drastic step than putting a child in a mental hospital. Even if your dc is exhibiting dangerous behaviors there is a desire to still hold back and try one more thing before resorting to something that seems that extreme. A better understanding of service options and a feeling of more involvement in the treatment for parents, I think, would allow them to act sooner before escalation that is harder to come back from. ETA: I am referencing in-patient hospital treatment vs therapeutic group home. Acute hospitalizations (which are only for a week to 10 days, usually just to stabilize the patient) are different than what I am talking about. A therapeutic group home stay could be for a couple of months or longer just like an in-patient hospitalization. The difference is the setting.

Personality disorders are not officially diagnosed until 18. Before that the behaviors are dealt with as "conduct disorder." Conduct disorder, though, can also be labeled on a teen acting out for other reasons and they outgrow/mature or therapy helps them identify their stressors etc. No psychiatrist would officially label a child a sociopath or psychopath. They may give a mom a "heads up" that their kid is a "budding sociopath" but, again, nothing official. A psychopath and sociopath have the same dx (Antisocial PD). The expression of the hallmark behaviors is what makes the difference. And you are absolutely right that there are many Anti-social pd dxed people who live peaceful lives. Therapy can work to help them establish coping skills and checks and balances to their tendencies. But, they have to choose to accept that mindset.

Yes, very close. The goal with antisocial pd is to install an external code of conduct that replaces an internalized morality (because they lack that emotional guidance). For some this works. It is all about convincing them about how it benefits them to play within the rules of society as opposed to always following their whims and desires. You can not make them care or feel for the sake of someone else. The "how would you feel in Bob's shoes" or "how would you like it if..." type of exercises are totally useless and only serve to better help them mimic appropriate social cues. I heard it repeated many times..."We can teach him right and wrong. We can teach him alternative coping skills. We can't make him care or want to implement any of it." :sad: But, for them, It is not usually about pursuing evil. It is about following their desires, proving they are the smartest, best or most cunning etc. and they get bored easily. Of course to the rest of us it sure looks like a love of evil things.

A psychiatrist explained to me that there is a fairly straight-forward path to a legitimate diagnosis of Anti-social personality disorder (a sociopath and a psychopath carry the same dx code). If a child is identified as having ODD in early childhood and the behaviors intensify to include violence against animals and/or people along with other law-breaking behavior, then the diagnosis is changed to child-onset conduct disorder. Teenagers who begin to act out in the teen years can be diagnosed with CD but generally have a good prognosis with intervention because there is usually an underlying cause. The children, however, who were identified in their younger years and continue to progress despite intervention do not. If these children hit adulthood with the same behaviors or worsening then they are considered to have Anti-Social PD. Many adults can live productive lives even labeled as sociopaths. How the hallmark behaviors are applied is what makes the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath. This psychiatrist believed that personality is fairly well set by 14/15. Intervention before that age has the best shot of shifting that child's path. He held out very little hope beyond that (not that therapy should stop, just that it should shift focus and expectations.) I have seen a child take this path and at 14 still have no idea what remorse or empathy feels like. It is sad and scary for all involved. Sometimes people would single out individual behaviors of this person and claim that they looked like spectrum behaviors, but the total picture was very different. I can see where cherry picking certain behaviors could mislead some. Having continuity of care by one doctor who farmed out to various psychologists at different times throughout the child's life was most helpful. He was able to put all the pieces together and still see the big picture. I could see how moving from one professional to another to another over many years could lead to incorrect diagnoses. I think this is the type of thing that can be a problem in the SS/foster care world. ETA: this type of child (RAD is present for him) has a good grasp of what emotions "look like" and can mimic them well. Knowing when and where the an emotional response belongs is always what set him apart from spectrum-type disorders.

Hmmm...weird. I don't know, but I would definitely replace that toothbrush. :glare: suspicious...

Maybe she's only a Bezos/Blue Origin fan? :tongue_smilie:

My dh is! He watches all launches on the computer :lol: . We have driven up to Wallops Island to watch theirs because it's close. But dh loves all things space and rockets. ETA: My dh interned at NASA way back in the day. He would love to be in the industry today. It is pretty amazing how private industry has advanced the technology. Although, I always joke with dh that I have yet to actually see one re-land as the camera/service blinks out at that moment, and then the camera comes back on and the rocket is magically sitting on the freighter. :tongue_smilie:

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Thank you everyone! Unfortunately the price point is what it is because we also have to purchase a new stove AND a new freezer over the next couple of months! Sigh. I could wait on the vacuum, but I just don't want to :tongue_smilie:. My dog's hair/skin issue leaves me cleaning a couple times a day. I had never met a dog with actual dandruff before :001_huh:. BTW, yes, we are treating the dog for his dandruff/dry skin and ridiculous shedding. I never even considered a canister vac before. I will start looking at some of those. I like the dust attachment that the Shark offers! I see some Meiles that go from $300-$600 and a couple for even more. Yikes My dh said there are several filtration options available for shop vacs, and he can modify just about anything. We have 2 different sized shopvacs already. Lots to consider.

Also looking for an update. I hope all is well!

Both... It requires training, strength, and stamina making it athletic. The way you combine the moves, perform the dance, choose music and bring it all together to invoke an image or emotion. That is where the art comes in. ETA: missing some words

I have not owned a regular vacuum in a long time. I have been using a broom, swiffer vac and small stick vacs. We don't have any rugs or carpets, but I miss having the attachments for cleaning everything else. I had a handheld pet vac for the couch but never really bonded with it. I would love some recommendations! What I think I want :tongue_smilie: : cord rewind -I hate having to wind up that stupid cord! wand attachment, upholstery attachment, brush attachment etc works on hardwood can handle pets - I have 1 dog (sheds like 4, he seriously has an aversion to keeping his hair), 3 cats, and rats (they don't shed much but do leave the occasional present behind) Under $150 preferably. I can go up to $200 if it is really, really worth it -like for a cord rewinder. Did I mention that I hate dealing with the cord? I have been looking for a few days, but I just can't decide and most people review them based on how it vacuums carpet/rugs. My desires are a little different. I love my swiffer vac, but I want to pull out one machine that can take care of the floor, suck the fur balls from between the kennel bars, de-fur the couch, get the dog dandruff that has collected around the edges of the dog bed, de-dust the air intake grate, and get the spilt cat food without having to move everything. Thank you

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