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  1. The History of Philosophy With No Gaps podcast from Cambridge (I think), is pretty good and very thorough. My 12yo occasionally listens with me. Just be sure to skip the episode on Plato's Erotics as it is definitely not appropriate for the preteen crowd. They also have books but I haven't read them.
  2. I'm looking for a logic program that my 12 yo and I can do together. She is working at a 10th grade and up level right now, and college level in science. She expressed interest in doing logic after I let her read TWTM. It needs to be secular, and its needs to be something where I can learn beside her. I'm leaning towards James Madison Critical Thinking because I think she would like the detective style story, but I can't find a lot of reviews which makes me leary. Snake and the Fox was recommended over on the K-8 board for her, but it seems lacking in reviews as well. Ideas?
  3. Thanks! I loved doing book it as a kid, and we do the Library's reading program, but this looks great!
  4. I don't think either dh or I ever sold a book back during college, but then we are also academics which I suspect is just a fancy word for book hoarder. The plan is to find the texts that the MIT opencourseware programs use. They are mostly two or three editions behind at this point, so I've seen them for $10-25. Which considering they were probably $250 new, isn't bad at all. The only one I'm even tempted to buy newer is biology just because things change so fast in bio at the moment, but I think we'll be supplementing with articles and recently published books so I'm on the fence.
  5. BFSU came and dh is positively gleeful. He basically said if everything we use is like BFSU or AOPS that we should definitely be homeschooling both kiddos. ::look at my happy dance:: And because I'm blaming all of you for this (and I think you'll get a kick out of it): 12yo has decided on an end goal for her education. To be Batman. She made a stirring case, complete with a powerpoint that she was already on track for science, and we've been discussing logic curricula and she'll need that to be the world's greatest detective. But now she'd like to drop English (her least favorite) for parkour lessons and add another martial arts class, maybe Krav Maga. She also said she was going to keep doing Kitchen Chemistry, because what if she can't find an Alfred, she'll need to cook for herself. I vetoed dropping English, but I'm now trying to figure out if parkour lessons are even a thing. 😂
  6. No, our school district is pretty much too strapped for anything beyond the very basics. They also would probably prefer to never see us again.
  7. I'm going to be exploring this all for myself 😀 Thank you!
  8. It's not objectionable to me. It might be to my husband at this particular moment because my Inlaws beating on a very related sore spot at the moment. He wouldn't have a problem with conversing with a Christian at all. I'm pretty sure I learned most of that in or at least public school adjacent. It probably wasn't something the teacher emphasized, but I'm pretty sure we talked about indulgences when we talked about the Reformation, and that I at least knew about different interpretations of communion at that point, too. I know we talked about things that Protestants disagreed on between themselves.
  9. I am looking for a good Logic program for her. She very accelerate in math, and an above grade level writer, so we are working on stretching math out at the moment, though required writing is limited to her lab book for the summer. Thank you, that's so helpful. I loved the Montessori school older kiddo attended, and we do a bit of Montessori stuff at home already.
  10. She's making color coded lists on easel paper. I may just hand TWTM to her.
  11. I'm not saying they won't read things by Christians, more like that to read something like Paradise Lost or to understand the Reformation, you need some pretty detailed knowledge of Catholic and early Protestant theology. I probably want my kids to know the difference between transubstantiation, consubstantiation, and symbolism or what indulgence were and why someone would sell them. They don't really need a deep background of the specific theology of my inlaw's mega church to read modern lit, they need a basic understanding of what evangelicalism is, but probably only on a conversational level to stretch the metaphor.
  12. This ended up being a reply to lots of posts, not just the quoted one: It's basically in this one particular area of homeschooling, and he's more then aware that I favor a great books approach and that means our kids will be pretty fluent in at least classical Christianity, if not the more modern evangelical forms his family practices. I'm not sure how you could get through any thorough history education without it. Not to mention 12 yo is currently fascinated by the idea of heresy at the moment and dominated last night's dinner conversation with Michael Servetus being burned at the stake. (You've got to have a cast iron stomach to eat around here). My worry is more along the lines he'll dismiss it before realizing TWTM is basically what he's wanted as an educational plan because he's having a hard time in this area at the moment. A year ago, I might of just handed him the book, maybe in a couple months it would work again. Right now it's not worth it, especially as every time I tell him about some part, he more or less agrees that it sounds like what he wants. I also went ahead and ordered the first BFSU book to just hand him, as I think that will be pretty convincing. For the PP who used and loved BFSU, you didn't think it was too light on experimentation? It's hard to judge from reviews. He is familiar with ps scope and sequence, because he's been having arguments about it with teachers for years now. We've sort of moved the discussion on to what scope and sequence *should* look like, at least in our home. He's agreed that there doesn't need to be adherence to this scope and sequence we set out, but he still thinks that there should be one to work from so we don't jump from place to place without a plan. Honestly, I think I agree with him, though as you all can see I was approaching it through curriculum. Now that we've divorced it from curriculum, I think we're having a much more productive conversation. Though it's a bit overwhelming. Especially since I mentioned I'd been reading about logic curricula and he got all excited about it. Thankfully, he and 12yo have settled on core science during the year, fun science over the summer, and so they are going to do MIT's Kitchen Chemistry and learn to cook together. My kitchen may never be the same. I also introduced him to Home Science Tools, so they may be making bread with a Bunsen burner if his geek glee overrules his practical side. We actually came to hs from AOPS, which a math tutor recommended and with which the 12yp has thrived. To the PP who asked, we both have faculty borrowing privileges at university libraries, so I foresee no problem with acquiring any books necessary. On hs convention, I suspect not, as dh does not like crowds, if there was some sort of smaller, mostly secular type thing, I might talk him into that, but we did GenCon once, because he loves board games, and it was too much. I mean, he goes to professional conferences, but his sub field is small and he knows all those people. He is a super introverted INTJ, not that I'm much less introverted. Amusingly enough, the 12yo thinks this scope and sequence design is amazing and has been making flow charts of everything the 3yo should learn. When I told her about teaching history chronologically, she decided science should be taught the same way and has taken upon herself to teach the 3yo about the first five seconds of the universe, because "they are the most important mom, and they come first!" I think we are basically at the point of agreeing that 3yo will stay home, and are now on to the mechanics of how that will work, even if dh hasn't realized it yet.
  13. Yes, exactly! That sounds like what I would do. I think maybe I gave the impression that I'm opposed to having a long term plan or that I'm looking for a rigid long term plan, and I'm not. I understand that we will change our minds and adapt to our child's needs. I think Dh won't have such trouble with waiting for the good stuff since he can do that with the 12yo. I don't see him having any problem with changing things out, I just think he didn't think those resources were available, and once I can say, hey, look, this stuff exists and here's what looks good to me, he'll be more excited about it. I liked what I saw if BA/AOPS a lot, and I guess I though pre-algebra in 6th was normal? I took it in 6th. Latin I'm going by posts here that suggested GSWL in 4th and following with Lingua Latina supplemented with Wheelock should get you to reading fluency by hs. Plus I have both Wheelock and Henle already sitting around here. My natural tendency is to pick something and stick with it, so I was looking for a K-8 science program and BFSU looked good with some supplementation. This is really what dh cares most about, and was most concerned didn't exist.
  14. I'm gifted, too. We actually met at the early college program and have been together since. My educational experience was very different from DH's though. My parents both have Ph. D.s and are very education focused, so I was in g/t programs and getting outside enrichment full time from prek on. My education is all on the humanities side of things, whereas dh is a science guy. We usually operate on a two yeses, one no system for big decisions like this. And honestly he might care more about this than I do. I'm more than willing to do the research because it's something that frustrates him. Plus, it's likely he would be doing most of the math and science teaching at a higher level. He took sabbatical for the fall to help transition the 12 yo home, they do science and math together. I didn't think the scope and sequence was too far out of norm, or at least it was basically what I'm remember doing in school, not the pace 12yo went at. Okay, maybe not the Latin, but that seemed reasonable from what I read. Honestly, it would drive dh nuts, but he'd get over it because most of all we want them to be happy.
  15. Oh, thank you! This is actually perfect and really helpful.
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