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Aww, poor little girl. That reminded me of some crazy religious stuff I got ahold of at that age about the end of the world and it was not until I told my mom and she looked at me with a wh????? look that i even thought oh, maybe it isnt true. lol. So maybe you should talk to the mom. Or do you know this is coming out of her mouth? B/c my family is atheist and we have Christian friends. There have been some problems here and there, but really they just want to play.

I can not stick to a diet- I irritate myself frequently with this.

oh, that just brought a smile to my face. I remember how angry my youngest would get when I would say something like that to him. "Why do you get to make my choices? They are MY choices. " :lol: Funny how each child looks at it differently. My oldest appreciated a choice. My youngest was not fooled.

Was doing a search to see if anyone had done this with their child. Did you make a decision? I have an upcoming 8th grader also :)

:grouphug: I am sorry, that all sounds so hard.

Yes! And my children are compliant and I do not even know what I did to not make them that way. We really do not argue much. In the example she gave though I think my response would have been more " hey- don't snatch, but what's wrong?" rather than "give it back". http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-m-flanagan/the-reason-every-kid-should-talk-back-to-their-parents_b_4226417.html

:hurray: Good! I am glad you are relieved!

OK-- FLowers in the Attic-- didnt the brother rape the sister their first time? I could be remembering this wrong. Almost like he couldnt take it anymore, had been watching her a while. I am not seeing the connection between not letting someone read that kind of book and slut shaming. We are very liberal with reading material. But VC Andrews is kinda seared into my head :lol: :ack2:

What is there to eat or drink? Where is that thing I just had?

I was at a little league game and overheard a mom tell her son if his team won, she would give him 40.00. This was just regular rec league.

:grouphug: I am so sorry.

No. I did not know that. It makes me a little sick to my stomach.

I get it but I have no idea of any books. Love to hear some! (mine is a boy though and about to turn 13 lol)

"Property tax exemption for religious organizations is one of the evilest entitlements. In 1970,TIME Magazine pinpointed the real estate value of religious organizations at $102 billion. Property worth since then has ascended six-fold; today’s tag would be approximately $612 billion. Nationwide, themedian property tax rate is 1.38%, which means about $8.45 billion annually is not collected from religious groups....." I wonder if the numbers are right there? That is a lot. http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/pellissier20110506

:grouphug: That sounds lousy. Glad you got a little more rest.

Anger makes sure the little girl gets justice I think. I liked it a lot. But it did get kinda tedious lol.

(hugs) to you also. Thank you.

yes! That is when I got so mad.

I was embarrassed to be crying in public. I wasn't hoping he would notice. I asked him after he made (what *I * thought was an off-putting insensitive comment) did you notice I had been crying and he said he did and that he was just trying to get me to see the positive side of things. I have to go out- kids. lol. We have a too many activities like most hs families around here. But recently I got panicky about leaving the kids and maybe he meant that. I do not know.

Well if it does disappear let it be known I was not meaning to bash the man. I love him! Im surprised it sounds like I am. and sorry it comes across that way to some. I needed help with seeing another side to it. Because I know he loves me and would not mean to hurt me so....?? sigh. But I didnt mean to break rules or anything. Just wanted to get that part in there before it gets poofed while I am still reading nad processing the other replies. Thank you!

Thank you. We have a unique history so it helps to hear there are others who would react the same!

Yeah, he has always i took a part out in case it was mean had trouble when it comes to my emotions. It is interesting to me bc it feels like he is sensitive to our children, even his colleagues. But harsher with me. Normally I think I can handle it but this feels so big, so overwhelming and I do not want to back down and say "ok you are right, I am over reacting. " He loves me. He is definitely terrified I think of crying and wants me to just feel better, he wants to fix it and us all to be happy. He also loved my dad but honestly seems 'over it', Not sure though if that is bc he is trying so hard to be positive. Thank you for what you said Cat. I was trying to get him a father's day present in Barnes and Noble before I ran into the grandfather. I tried but in the end just couldnt. And I am scared he is going to be annoyed with me. My inlaws got him a present last week. I cried when I read your posts bc they touched me :grouphug: Thank you. ETA- and i meant to add thank you Joker for letting me know things get better. We have not yet had this much trouble, even through miscarriages, moves, job loss, and just 18 years. So it is nice to know we might have another 15. (i took a sentence out)

Thank you for spelling this out for me. This is how I feel! Like #2. I feel like a duh moment.