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  1. I got a call from DSS where our foster child is from. The case has been handed over to the adoption specialist to begin the adoption paperwork. He made sure I understood that we aren't fully ready for this yet, but that he only gets these when it appears eminent. His role is to get us to start things now so that it won't take so long after rights are fully terminated in June. It brought tears to my eyes. All the trouble with the birth mother will be worth it in the end. 💟
    55 points
  2. This is kind of funny, but presumably my review has now been boosted to the top of the negative reviews on that book on GoodReads, because every *day*, I get 10-20 “likes” on my review now. It’s somewhat funny to me that the book I panned the hardest, the book I thought was total garbage, the harshest review I have ever posted, is my most popular review ever. I guess that says something about the truth of negative bias. It’s also ironic, because I get email notifications when people interact with that review, so I get to see the name of that loathsome book dozens of times per day... (To those who don’t know what I’m talking about, it was a book by Rachel Hollis which was super popular among a certain crowd a few years ago. I don’t want to link it directly but you would see what I mean if you looked it up.)
    23 points
  3. We were there until 12:30 last night and I was up with a puking kid the night before. I'm so very tired, physically and emotionally. It went really well. They showed a lot of love, care, and support for our family, yet didn't tiptoe around things that were harming our family. His abusive behavior to us was confronted but not his delusions/mental health. I'm still processing it all. Too tired to think about a next step right now, but I feel safe as I consider it.
    23 points
  4. I just got a call from our church leadership. I guess my son called one of them after my husband told him he wasn't saved. I found out his meeting is coming from them and not my husband. This is not a counseling meeting or confront IfIOnly meeting. They are confronting his abusive behavior. They have been waiting for a time to do this, I was told. I'm so, so grateful to have their support. And that I put my foot down to churches that were harming us instead of helping us. Edit: they asked me to come but did not insist. I am going.
    19 points
  5. Have the conversation. Say exactly what you’ve said here. Offer that if she’s changed her mind about the job, you understand. But if she’s committed, then you need her every week though you can be flexible on which day.
    17 points
  6. She did it! Dd#2 received a letter today from the Board of Directors of this Ethnic/Religious Organization Group [not to be named] that she is one of the recipients of their incoming college Freshman scholarships! A win for independent homeschoolers, mom-added and mom-issued transcripts, and for not-super-academic-but-great-kid students!
    15 points
  7. And unless this is an unusual church...the leadership likely does not have the professional knowledge or plans to deal with someone this mentally ill. Abuse stemming from this sort of mental illness(and there is a big difference between something like paranoid schizophrenia w/ delusions of grandeur and an a$$ who won’t manage his temper and abuses women and children) is a completely different ball game. This really is not a matter for a church leadership other than supporting the victims and assisting them however possible.
    12 points
  8. I think one of the biggest problems in terms of keeping him incarcerated awaiting trial, is that Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee are best buddies with the family, and Mike in particular has very big ties to ATI, very big ties. I do believe they will intervene and use their influence on his behalf unless they suddenly decide that his charges are a bridge too far for them politically, and they pull the fair weather friend routine. I may post next week a bit more about my experiences with ATI. However, I am currently on vacation, camping with my family and really enjoying myself. Contemplating this isn't relaxing for me. But I didn't want everyone to think I posted and just ran off. We have had this camping trip planned for three months.
    11 points
  9. AND I don’t recommend counseling with pastoral staff or elders for mental health issues. They are neither licensed or qualified. Even if your church has licensed professional counseling staff, I still don’t recommend seeing them as mental health/brain functioning issues are often ignored and issues instead are framed as faith ones. Being told to read the scriptures more and pray with more faith does not resolve the fact that your brain isn’t making enough dopamine or your husband has a cluster B personality disorder. My friends have horror stories of being pressured to stay in physically abusive marriages or of having years long delays before they quit that service and got proper help from qualified providers. Your doctor can be a safe resource for you. Make an appointment for an issue and then disclose during the appointment. It should be safe and confidential and it can help open additional resources.
    10 points
  10. Excuse me, but as of today, you have 10 years of teaching experience. Don't let anyone, including the 10yo child, suggest that you don't have "even a minute" of teaching experience. Also, I want you to practice The Look. You will use it on anyone who questions you, including the 10yo child. You might even need to use it on yourself in the mirror (there's nothing wrong with feeling insecure; it is only that it really is a thing to be the Authority in the face of those who question you.) Excuse me, but how can a teacher in any classroom be more passionate about teaching your own children than you are? These are your own children. You grew them. You care more about how they turn out than anyone else does. You are more invested in them than anyone else is. Classroom teachers may have more knowledge, and at some point you might let some of them teach some things to your children, but they will never be more "passionate" than you are *about your children.* Excuse me, but how could you possibly be doing a "disservice" to your children by keeping them home? You are *this close* to them all day. You know all their dreams and and future plans. You discuss things with them all day long in ways that can never be done in a classroom. You are ready and willing and able to look for the things that will help them learn the most. In what world would that be a "disservice"? It takes most of us more than a year to figure things out. And once we have things figured out, the children change and mature and stuff, and then we have to figure things out again, lol. It's part of the process, and, frankly, it's what makes us (including you) experienced and passionate. 🙂
    10 points
  11. That was pretty much my thought when I read the OP.
    9 points
  12. If you do this I'd insist that it be siblings only. Others could visit, if safe, at another time. Could you go first with your siblings and then your dh and kids drive there to meet you at the end of the sibling trip and then you have a family visit and travel home with them?
    9 points
  13. I think it a very bad idea I was a student teacher in a class about 8 years ago where the teacher made everyone make fathers day cards. I saw the face of one boy, his dad had dies 10 months previously. He was devastated. Then because he didn't want to display his grief in class he picked a fight with a boy in the class with autism. It was a dramatic demonstration I also have subtitue taught in a class where there were 3 foster children( unknown to me) and they were assigned by the regular classroom teacher to make mothers day cards. It is extremely hurtful to some children to be reminded that they have crappy parents and be singled out like that
    9 points
  14. After going through OPGTR 4 times with my kids, dd5 officially finished this morning! She's my last. Teaching reading isn't my favorite. OPGTR has been awesome because it is straight and to the point and has worked with all my kids. But now I never have to do it again! I'm probably more excited than my daughter. Just wanted to brag because I thought you guys might get it. 🙂
    8 points
  15. Why do you feel guilty? There is nothing wrong with a mom going away, even when it involves travel, without her husband and children. Go and enjoy the time with your siblings. And don't let anyone make you feel guilty. You wouldn't be doing anything wrong.
    8 points
  16. I'm so sorry! Children are so tactful! 🤦‍♀️ Be assured that the first year or two are roller coaster rides for most everybody, even those who set out to homeschool from the beginning and haven't landed there in response to some kind of crisis or global pandemic. Do you know what prompted the question? Is he repeating something he heard someone else say, or is he struggling with a particular subject, or could it be one of those delightful pre-teen hormone things? You have 12 or more years of formal learning experience, plenty of life experience, and 10 years parent-teacher experience. You taught this kid to talk, brush his teeth, be kind to others, put the toilet seat down when he is finished, use a knife and fork... And you partnered with his school in teaching him to read, write, add, subtract, learn his times tables. No, it's true you don't have a qualification in the area of herding large groups of children, but since you're not teaching a large group of children, that hardly matters. Facilitating their learning is totally appropriate. There are lots of ways to teach: you can be the subject matter expert, you can be the facilitator, you can be a fellow learner (I'm about to start Latin with my kids but have never learned it myself), or you can simply be the cheer squad (my son is intensely interested in learning to build and fix things, and I'm happy to purchase materials and hook him up with practical people who can help him, but I have no skills in this area and don't intend to acquire them). If you plan to homeschool again next year, perhaps you could choose a time when your son is in a good mood and ask him, without reference to the earlier conversation, to nominate two things he liked about this year's homeschool, two things he didn't like, and two things he thinks would make next year better. His answers might surprise you - some kids want pretty minor things like to sleep in a bit or to choose the order they complete their work in - and there might be some useful insights. Additionally, if you give a little in these areas you might get the buy-in you need to swing the rest of your plans. As to passionate teachers... yes, it's possible you're keeping him away from someone who could do ten times the job you can. Of course, you're also keeping him away from the ones who should never be teachers at all, who don't care, can't teach, and even prey on students. I experienced both types in my school journey and gladly acknowledge that I am not as inspiring as my best teacher, nor poisonous or incompetent like my worst. Homeschooling doesn't mean being my kids' only teacher; just their primary one. They will encounter passionate people doing the jobs they are passionate about as we live life together. Best of luck, and welcome to the WTM forums ❤️
    8 points
  17. I think she definitely should go SOMEWHERE for vacation, but the vast majority of the US has more pleasant weather in July than Florida does! I live in north Georgia, and my only rule for summer vacations is "go somewhere cooler than Georgia."
    7 points
  18. Is there something more crazy than crazy? Cause, you are crazy. I'm a native Floridian. I LOVE hot weather. I live in Orlando. And I won't go to the theme parks this time of year, and that was true before you had to wear a mask the whole time. Natives know better. If they go, they do because they have annual passes and just go in the evening. No one in their right mind does Universal in July in the day. Also, the one building has all thos mirrors on it, and it's like being in a solar oven when you walk by. It is truly SO hot. SOOOO hot. And I say that as someone that mows the lawn at noon in 90 plus degree weather, willingly. Nope. It's like, what would hell feel like? Like wearing a mask for 8 hours in a sauna - which is what it will feel like. Yeah, that's a one time mistake. It will not be normal - it will be masks in sauna like humidity and heat. That's not a vacation. OP, go to the beach. Or river rafting. Or ANYTHING else.
    7 points
  19. I can’t speak for others, but I have no problem with you not getting vaccinated, for one very important reason — you’re still being careful. You’re masking and taking other precautions, so that tells me you care about others’ health as well as your own. The people I get angry with, are the ones who act like Covid is no big deal, so they refuse to make or social distance, and who won’t even quarantine when they have symptoms. You aren’t that person — and neither is @Pen.
    7 points
  20. I agree with the ethical issue regarding who is grading the homework. I also have ethical issues regarding requiring a student to provide information to a third-party--email address, contact information, grades, as a requirement to be enrolled in my class. I also have qualms with the way the major publishers are pushing this. It is not only about cutting down on the resale of textbooks. It has been used as a scheme to reduce royalties to authors. The textbook author's contract would be something like they get 10% of the price of each book sold--for a $100 book that would be $10. But all of derivative products from the book pay royalties differently. So, the publisher sellls access to a computer program with access to the books contents for $150--then it states that $145 of that is for the computer program and $5 is for the book content. Then the author gets royalties on $5, not $100--and usually these rates are lower than the 10% the author would have received on the book. On top of that the author is at the publisher's mercy to know how electronic copies have been sold--it isn't like the old days where you could open a book cover and get an idea from the number of print runs. There have been lawsuits against all of the major publishers regarding these types of practices. And, I also have problems with what they are providing as "evidenced-based research" of how great their products are. Much of it is based on self-designed surveys with questions designed to elicit positive responses.
    7 points
  21. I feel like you’re getting way out in the weeds and losing the forest for the trees in answering the above question about health and life outcomes. People who are vaccinated have a very low chance of severe illness or death from Covid. Not dying early is the biggest long term health and life outcome I know of. Whether you want to quote relative or absolute risks, the fact remains that Covid is one of the leading causes of death right now, with it moving higher on the list the older someone is, and the vaccines can all but eliminate it from that list for each person who take it. People aren’t “pro-Covid” for thinking the vaccine works to drastically reduce Covid illness and death. It just very clearly does. Someone has to specifically not want the vaccine to work in order to come up with mental and verbal gymnastics to try to make it sound like the vaccine isn’t doing what it was made to do. I know you personally are against the Covid vaccine, and I get that, and have no intention or goal of trying to get you to get vaccinated anyway. I do however find it immoral during this pandemic for people to set out to actively try to dissuade others from being vaccinated. I’m not saying you are immoral as a person, Pen, this is more of a “love the sinner, hate the sin” kind of thing. The vaccines are already saving so many lives, and have the potential to prevent hundreds of thousands more, if not millions more deaths on a global level. I think it’s awful for some people to be actively trying to prevent all those lives being saved. When I see it coming from Christians, I can’t help but wonder what happened to loving your neighbor and putting others before yourself. I don’t know why all these lives suddenly no longer matter because they are believed to not meet the standard of health that makes them worthwhile (even though there are thousands of completely healthy younger people who have died as well). I just honestly can’t understand the thought process that seeks to stop people from protecting themselves and others and ending this pandemic.
    7 points
  22. Thanks for checking in. I am so glad it went well. Get some rest and I hope your kiddo is feeling better. I am really glad that you have more and more support.
    7 points
  23. US Coronavirus: Vaccines are helping bring down US Covid-19 numbers. But the virus is now hitting one group of Americans harder - CNN The one puzzle piece experts say is missing is getting children inoculated. But there's good news on that front. Pfizer expects to submit its Covid-19 vaccine for children ages 2 to 11 years old for US Food and Drug Administration emergency use authorization in September, the company said during its first-quarter earnings teleconference on Tuesday. The pediatric safety and efficacy study in children age 6 months to 11 years old is ongoing "We expect to have definitive readouts and submit for an EUA for two cohorts, including children age 2-5 years of age and 5-11 years of age, in September," Pfizer CEO Alert Bourla said in prepared remarks, adding that the readout and submission for children 6 months to 2 years are expected in the fourth quarter of 2021.
    7 points
  24. Why not plan the sibling trip, enjoy those 5 days without kids and dh, and then plan for your dh and kids to join you after the sibling trip is over? That way you get to enjoy sibling time and also the trip your dh has wanted to do with the kids for years. Or just do that trip later on. You should not feel guilty for spending time with people that are not your children and dh.
    7 points
  25. Why don’t you go once with your sister and once with your family?
    7 points
  26. Yes. I've told this story here before, but it's worth retelling, I think. We were at church on a Mother's Day and I had been unable to conceive. The day was hard enough. When I left, I was offered a book of Scriptures for mothers. I said, no, thank you, I'm not a mother. And the man said, oh, it's for all the ladies and pushed it back in my hand. I went home and put it in the trash. It was very upsetting to me. Someone might say I wasn't being logical or mature about it, but we can't help how we feel, and feelings surrounding motherhood and daughterhood can be absolutely primal in their intensity.
    7 points
  27. I think each family is best suited to decide how to address Mother's Day. It's not like there is no chance for the stepmom to be honored if it isn't done in Sunday School. My kids haven't had a parent die, but they have a situation that doesn't really fit with most of what is said on Mother's Day and Father's Day. Their birth moms relinquished them, they had to leave their foster moms, their birth dads wanted nothing to do with them, and other than that, they don't have a dad. People suggest all sorts of work-arounds that don't help. Like asking a friend or uncle to take my kids to a father-daughter dance. It simply doesn't work for us. Less is more when it comes to potentially sensitive issues. I've always been thankful that Father's Day falls in the summer, so the schools can't make it a thing. We would skip church/Sunday School on Father's Day.
    7 points
  28. When I took my first child home from the hospital, I wondered who in their right mind would send a baby home with someone as unprepared and inexperienced as DH and I. Our siblings were near us in age, we had no vastly younger cousins, no nieces or nephews anywhere nearby--we had no experience at all with newborns. But, as PPs have pointed out, we were invested 100% in the care and wellbeing of that little person, so we did the best we could, read a lot, asked questions of those with more experience...and I'd like to think we've done a pretty good job these past 12+ years. I quoted Arcadia above because I was a schoolteacher before becoming a parent. I was completely disheartened at the end of my first year because even though I had a small class (only 18 kids!), I still felt like there were some kids I'd spent 7 hours a day with for an entire year without really getting to know them. And even with such a small class, it was impossible for me to customize my instruction like I wished I could. There just wasn't enough time or enough ME to go around. And yes, given enough years in one position (I kept getting moved every year) I probably could have gradually developed more customizable curriculum/units, but there is no way a classroom teacher can customize learning like you can when it's just you and your children. You know when they understand and can skip review or when they're confused and need another approach. You can ditch a curriculum if it doesn't meet your family's needs or come up with your own material, following all those rabbit trails they're interested in. Just like when you took home your first baby (at least, if you were as clueless as I), you research and ask questions of those with more experience to inform your own decision-making. You may not always FEEL qualified, but you are definitely motivated to ensure your children's success, and in my book, that's worth more than any teaching certificate you can earn. (On a side note, I was slightly appalled when I was waiting in line to take my teaching certification test, since everyone around me was discussing how many times they had failed the test so far. This was a test to see if you were competent in ELEMENTARY skills. People who fail should perhaps consider not being the ones to teach these skills to the next generation.)
    7 points
  29. In that situation, I'd give a heads-up to the dad so he's aware, and I'd also encourage the kids to make several cards if they like. If some kids are making them for grandma or their kind next door neighbor in addition to mom, it won't put all the focus on moms in a way that would be uncomfortable. I generally do that kind of thing because in the Sunday School class I taught pre pandemic, there were kids with various family make-ups, living situations, etc. I also tried to remind my own children's teachers if things like "hey, my husband is deployed right now. They might be easily upset on father's day, and please be careful what you say on Memorial Day and Veteran's Day.
    7 points
  30. I don't really think you should go at all. It sounds like they want to talk to him about his own conduct, and it would be best if you were not the focus of all of that. If they don't think they need you there, they are probably right. He will probably show his true colours just fine without you being there. It would be much better for you to let him come home to you and complain that the church is against him -- rather than having him feel like everybody is against him right now. Plus you could use the time that he is away to pack a 'go bag', secure important documents, make phone calls, or have a frank talk with a teen or two. <-- those are the important things that you actually need to get done ASAP.
    7 points
  31. This is good news, but still please be careful what you say. If you aren't in danger right now, it's probably not a good idea to talk about leaving. Try not to say anything till you have a solid plan in place. It may further antagonize your husband and just make life more difficult for you, to no end. It might also turn the church elders against you - I hope this isn't true but you never know.
    7 points
  32. It does not surprise me at all that the family is close to Huckabee and Cruz. Birds of a feather indeed. It never ceases to amaze me who we idolize and trust in leadership in this country.
    7 points
  33. I don't think you've done nearly enough safety planning for the mess to hit the fan tonight. It will be a catastrophe. Wouldn't you rather make a solid plan and move out without the chaos, maybe sometime later this month? Please don't bring up separation at the meeting tonight. It won't go well. Don't tip your hand. Just get your ducks in a row first, then make your move when *you* are ready. Just let him keep believing, "She would never leave me." -- right up until the moment the door shuts behind you. You are so much safer when he feels unthreatened. God is fine with you telling lies to preserve your safety. He has priorities too.
    7 points
  34. My parents are in their late 70s and want less "stuff" that they'd have to give away or toss. (Plus, they live 3,000 miles away.) My mom now has Alzheimer's. So this gift is perfect for her. But it's also awesome for a mom with bad eye sight. (Which would be me, and I forget what day of the week it is all the time.) https://www.amazon.com/【Upgraded】Digital-Calendar-Alarm-Day-Clock/dp/B07Q79DMGY/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=giant+display+clock&qid=1620145605&sr=8-4 What are you sending your mom? (If of course you don't live close.)
    6 points
  35. The heat is dangerous in normal, unmasked times. Every year people have heat-related crises (and there are deaths) in these amusement parks. In a mask, it could be worse.
    6 points
  36. It. Is. So. Hot. If you have a hotel close to the parks/places you want to visit, get up early and return in the evening, it’s bearable. If not, I wouldn’t do it. I don’t know about Nashville or how the weather is different in the mountains but I’m guessing it’s better than AR or VA or FL in August. not sure about crowds this year. We’ve only gone during normal (non-COVID) summers.
    6 points
  37. I hate computerized homework systems with a passion and refuse to use them in my (large enrollment, 450+) classes. And it's only "cheap" for the college. My DS' first semester, I had to pay NINE HUNDRED dollars for textbooks with four access codes to online systems. The cost is all put on the students. IMO,the tuition should buy the students a well paid professor and human graders; they shouldn't have to pay extra for the privilege of having their homework graded. I really have an ethical problem with this 9aside from a pedagogical one)
    6 points
  38. Not true. Kids don't have that kind of power, especially step-kids and adoptees trying to avoid ruffling feathers, and many people think they have to go to church every Sunday unless they're sick or injured. Many a woman has had to suffer through Mother's Day church services.
    6 points
  39. I'm direct about it now. I had changed the subject for years on the phone but I finally just stated matter-of-factly what I thought and got the expected sputtering and hissing and spitting from them. I notice they no longer bring these things up to much anymore. Yay! When I'm sent PMs on FB/emails I type back, "Please stop sending me/copying me on these messages. PMs/Emails are for personal, specific contact; what you sent belongs on your FB page/to people who asked for this kind of thing." If they send something like that a second time I'm neutral. "You're being rude. I asked you to stop sending me these things." Most stop immediately. A couple have yammered on trying to justify themselves. I hold my ground by repeating myself, "I asked you to stop and you didn't; that's rude." They unfriend me and I'm perfectly fine with that. I'm done with catering people's altered senses of reality. I'm not obligated to walk on eggshells or protect anyone from uncomfortable thoughts and feelings when they bring up their point of view in a conversation they started. I will speak the truth matter of factly and I don't give a rat's rear anymore if people are upset by it.
    6 points
  40. It wasn’t something I ever wanted to talk about or have acknowledged either. As family structures become increasingly diverse, and as people become more aware of that diversity, it just makes sense not to do something that could cause kids harm. I’ve always found, as a mom and otherwise, that random acknowledgments throughout the year are more meaningful than a specific, commercialized day anyway. Maybe that’s b/c my DH hasn’t been around to celebrate (or lead the charge as the case may be) more often than not, but it feels like the right thing to celebrate special people all year long. Individual families can celebrate their moms and dads as they see fit.
    6 points
  41. We'll do cards another time. I'll do the angel lesson instead. There is no reason in the world to cause a child pain unnecessarily.
    6 points
  42. If you were asking before you'd said anything, I'd say don't do it. If you do a "make a card" activity on Mother's Day, I would think it's pretty obvious to most kids why you decided to do it on that day, no matter how you phrase it. It's true that some kids in this girl's position would not be bothered, but what you've said makes it sound like she might be. My suggestion would be to move the "make a card" activity to a different day - maybe in July, far enough removed from both Mother's and Father's Days. Make a different plan for next Sunday and if any of the kids ask about it, just say, "Oh, I thought we would be doing that, but it ended up not fitting in the lesson. We'll write cards for people some other time."
    6 points
  43. I think we already tried that this year. COVID-19 mostly seems to spread via superspreader events: large gatherings in which people spend lots of time together. So public transit is unlikely to be the issue: what's likely to be the issue is a movie theater, or a concert hall, or a church. People do those things in rural (and suburban) areas, too. South Dakota has like 11 people per square mile and yet has made it into the list of places with the worst death rates 😞 . I think we ought not to assume that a lower density is definitely going to save people. I wonder what the correlation between death rates and population density is... someone ought to check. I betcha it's positive, although that could be a fake effect due to the fact that it first exploded in the Northeast, which is also dense...
    6 points
  44. I think Ted Cruz will put Ted Cruz first and ghost the whole family.
    6 points
  45. I called the local DV hotline and got voicemail. Left a message. I called about a year ago but didn't get far and chickened out. They were really great though. I'm pretty sure they offer counseling. I think that's the best place to start and hopefully a plan and some clarification in my thoughts can start. I think this is a good step and it gives me some hope and calm. Ty.
    6 points
  46. DD will be attending Georgia Tech. She is officially a Stamps Presidential Scholar! She was also previously awarded a scholarship from the College of Sciences but declined it in order to accept Stamps. I’m so proud of all our kids! Congratulations to everyone!
    6 points
  47. I finished the bunny! It’s really sweet. The very last step are the whiskers and eyelashes and it’s a specific quick brush stroke to do it and it feels intimidating. I practiced the whiskers a hundred times on a scrap first, lol! Here’s my cute bunn-bunn - and I feel I must reiterate, this is NOT my drawing or composition; it is a Let’s Make Art project and I traced the outline.
    6 points
  48. I don’t think you sound callous at all! You sound both caring and careful. And I know @Penelope mentioned that she doesn’t think masks are all that effective, but I have seen the way a lot of people wear their masks and, quite frankly, I’m not surprised to see that supposedly-masked people are catching Covid. Also, just because people are wearing masks in stores doesn’t mean they’re not getting together with 25 of their closest friends every weekend. I don’t think the effectiveness of the masks is the problem; I think the improper wearing of the masks and the lack of proper precautions in general are the problem.
    5 points
  49. An encouragement here - our old house had a 10 x 12 deck. We added a patio of about the same size. All we ever used the patio for was grilling and the deck was only big enough for a round table to seat four people. At our new house, we have a huge patio spanning with width of our house x 14 feet. It is so much more versatile than a deck is! It's easier to move things around - so we can easily put up folding tables if we have a bbq, we don't have to cart heavy planters up & down deck stairs to move them when needed and it's been easy to create "zones" with - a seating area, a grill area, an herb garden in containers. I highly recommend thinking about an outdoor fireplace or a fire pit - if you think that's a good idea but can't add it now, just keep it in mind when you design your space.
    5 points
  50. Pap smears. Colonoscopies. Mammograms. Glucose Tolerance Tests. PSA screening. Bone density scans.
    5 points
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