My library carries many TC lectures on CD. I save a lot of money by checking them out instead of purchasing them. Bach and the High Baroque is one of my favorites! Perhaps you can check your library?

Thank you for your timely response, Creekland. We will be discussing your suggestions as ds continues to prepare himself. Cindy

Thank you for posting this, Creekland! I will be sharing your son's advice with my middle son, currently a junior in high school, planning to pursue a path to medical school. Do you have any posts where you shared about your research, journey through undergrad application? I would love to read them. Cindy

Does "sheet 1" only have the +1 facts? "sheet 2" has only the +2 facts? How many facts on each sheet? Are the facts all mixed around: 4+1, 8+1, 2+1, 1+3,...? Do you practice these facts (using counters or games or flash cards), or do they learn them by repeatedly doing the drill sheet? Thanks! Cindy in Indy

Chris, If you want additional input, you might consider posting this on the afterschooling board as well. Cindy

My son entered 7th grade this year, because he wanted to play football. It's been a really great transition - he was well-prepared for the academics, but he is still learning a lot and is excited about his learning. He was surprised to find how much he enjoyed the social aspects and new friends. In fact, he likes it so well, that he keeps urging his 9th grade brother to enroll in ps. Brother doesn't want to go to ps. He really likes homeschool and his homeschool friends. I keep telling them that we want to do what is right for each one. It was really hard for me to let my younger one enter school; I had dreamed of homeschooling everyone all the way through. But it has worked out much better than I expected. I've been pleasantly surprised by the quality of his teachers and administrators. They're doing a good job. Blessings to you as you make this difficult decision. Feel free to pm me if you have additional questions. Cindy

oops! double-posted, sorry.

Thank you ladies! Moira and Kathy, thanks for the details on how you tackled Henle 2. Cindy

On another thread, Moira mentioned that her highschool daughters were able to move into Henle 2 after completing unit 7 of Henle 1. Sure enough, I read the intro to Henle 2 and it supports that. (Apparently only the "high ability" Latin students finished all of Henle 1 their freshman year. "Regular" classes were satisfied to complete unit 7.) When I compare the lessons in Henle 2 with the lessons we'd miss out of Henle 1, units 8-14, I can see where most of the essential grammar is covered in Henle 2 (although perhaps not as "in depth"?) Is there an advantage to taking a second year to complete Henle 1, so as to get a "very thorough" mastery of Latin grammar? Or do others recommend moving on to Henle 2, because it's more rewarding to read Caesar (and the others) and learn grammar to go along with that? (My ds will be in 10th grade.) If we were to start Henle 2 after Henle 1/unit 7, I would do lessons 1-16, then begin the Caesar readings keyed to lessons 17-28 ("The Helvetian drive to the west" and "Revolt along the seacoast" and "The first invasion of Britain"). Is that the best approach? Finally, what do I do with the other readings at the beginning of Henle 2 that aren't keyed to the lessons (e.g. "The German Peril" and "Danger in the Alps")? Just read them? Are the translations in the answer key? Does anyone have a schedule for Henle 2? I'd love to see it. TIA, Cindy

Moira, thanks for the tip about moving to Henle 2 after unit 7 of Henle 1. I'm going to start a new thread about that, rather than hijack this one. If you don't see it, I'll PM you. Cindy

I am doing Henle 1 with my 9th grade son this year. How I wish I had started it when he was 6th or 8th grade, like your daughters! But we went through LC1 and LC2 at a leisurely pace and I thought I'd start the "high school" text in High School! Well, we are enjoying it, but it is going slower than I anticipated. By working pretty hard, we will finish units 1-5 this year. I hope to finish units 6-14 next year, so we can start Henle 2 in 11th grade. Anyway, I say this to encourage you that you're in a PERFECT place to begin Henle, and you'll be able to get to Henle 2 by older daughter's 10th grade year, which would be terrific! Some more background (I'm getting to your question :)): Since I had no Latin background and I had read (like you) about the great Wheelock's program, I thought "I'll check this out from the library and work through it (one lesson per week), and I'll get ahead of my son, so I can "teach" more effectively." And I started out strong. The early chapters were mostly review, but it ramped up quickly and I couldn't keep up my pace. Since I have other studies and responsibilities that took precedence, I decided to let myself off the hook and just learn Latin along with my son, using Henle alone. We have fun doing it together, and he gets a kick out of it when I make a mistake :glare: and he "gets it right" ;). I do think Wheelock's moves a lot faster than Henle. Maybe with all the extra workbooks, etc, you could slow it down and get adequate review. But the Henle pace is already great for your daughters' ages. I would be inclined to stick with your decision for Henle. It uses such systematic review that even a "old brain" like mine can begin to grasp it. I don't know how I could get the Wheelock's information into my memory, without all the drill and review. I used the Memoria Press guides I and II (doubled up) to do units 1-5. Just like they said, I "get" how it works now and can keep up the schedule, even without a guide for units 6-14. (Although Brenda in MA developed a fantastic one-year schedule for units 6-10 that she used with her 8th grade son this year. PM her if you're interested. I think she's willing to share it. BTW, Henle occasionally includes some Catholic theology. Since we aren't Catholic, we discuss briefly and move on. It hasn't been a problem for us. HTH, Cindy

I found this book by Julius H. Jacobson II: The Classical Music Experience (and then I discovered that SWB and JW recommended the same book in the 2nd edition of WTM!) The book covers 42 worthy classical composers in chronological order: Palestrina - Leonard Bernstein. It gives a brief biographical sketch and offers list of works to listen to. The book comes with 2 sampler CD's (narrated by Kevin Kline), with excerpts of the recommended listening list. Each week my ds15 reads a chapter, and notes the following in his music appreciation notebook: -brief biographical sketch of the composer -characteristics of composer's "school of composition" (baroque, classical, romantic, etc.) Also note world events and prominent philosophies of the time. Next we listen to recommended selections. (We listen to complete works on our own CD's or CD's borrowed from the library. The sampler CD just gives you a "taste" of the composer's style.) In his notebook, ds lists the pieces listened to, whether he liked them, and why (why not). Each composer gets his own page in the notebook. As ds hears other works by the composer (at a concert, recital, or on the radio), he adds that work (and his assessment) to the appropriate page. I may follow this book with a Teaching Company course, "Appreciating the Great Composers" (or equivalent). I decided to "do" this course when I realized that 2 credits of Fine Arts are required for an honors diploma in our state. We're doing something similar for Art Appreciation (using "Annotated Art", by Robert Cummings). HTH, Cindy

We read HAW to go with Omnibus I. Here are the literature selections from Omnibus I that we read: Genesis Gilgamesh Code of Hammurabi Odyssey *Herodotus (book 1) Oresteia (Agamemnon only) *Plutarch (several lives) Oedipus the King *Livy (books 1&2) Isaiah Aeneid Screwtape Letters (doesn't fit with "ancients") *12 Caesars (selections) Romans Julius Caesar (Shakespeare play) Holiness of God (doesn't fit with "ancients") *these works are more "history" than "literature", but sometimes the line is blurry with the ancients. One book I would definitely add is Homer's Iliad. The Aeneid (and many more books down the road) is so much richer if you know the Iliad. And boys love the battles! Cindy in Indy

My 15ds is reading HAW as a history "spine" to supplement Omnibus I. He reads 3-4 chapters per week. I have him note three main points from each chapter in his notebook. We discuss anything he finds especially interesting. It is very well-written. My hat is off to SWB for a great work! Cindy

Brenda, Thanks again for the Henle 6-14 syllabus. I was scrolling old posts to see other bits of Latin wisdom, and I noticed this old question. Maybe it's too late to help, but .... I listened to the Famous Romans (by Rufus Fears) and liked it. He had some interesting comparisons of Ancient Romans to modern-day leaders (like the Gracchi brothers to JFK and RFK). I was seeking some background on Suetonius in preparation for teaching Omnibus I, and listened to the other biographies as a "bonus". There was one lecture (Aesculpius?? and the Golden Ass) that I wouldn't have my ds15 listen to, because it was too coarse IMO. I don't LOVE Fears' style (although I really liked his course on Winston Churchill - but that's another topic.....), but this course is a painless way to reinforce what your son has learned in the past. (I also listened to his course on Famous Greeks - perhaps that's where the Golden Ass is covered? Just be aware.) HTH, Cindy in Indy