Thank you all for some great links and suggestions while I was away. I will take the time to search through them all.

Could you please explain more about the "connections" that she is trying to avoid? Religion, economics, politics, plagues, natural disasters, and scientific developments are all part of a country's historical development. I think I am misunderstanding your comment. For instance, in studying American History, we have learned how different countries and/or people from other places made it happen. She doesn't want to study Europe only to read on every other page how Europe helped Africa or America or South America, etc...she just wants to immerse herself in how Europe is Europe. I'm probably not making it clear because of this stinking menopausal brain fog.

She's wanting to know the History of the countries and how they became what they are. Everything I can find seems to be very World History related and she wants more specific without all the connections you tend to find in World History studies if that makes sense. There's plenty of medieval stuff out there and renn/ref. content but we are struggling to find something that digs deeply into how England and its people came to be England, how Germany became it's own country, etc...

Thanks! Not quite what she is interested in. I checked all over the net before coming here to post and just am not seeing what she is seeking. Maybe it's time I write my own. ;-)

Setting up next school year already and going into 10th grader would like to study European History specifically, not just British(such as Stobaugh)and not World but European History as a whole. Anyone know of any spines or even thorough curricula programs out there such as this?

No, he hasn't. He gets most basic concepts but begins to struggle when he gets to doing any sort of multiplication or division of fractions and beyond.

We've tried it all and he still struggles with sometimes even basic concepts like fractions. Any suggestions would be helpful. We have used or tried just about everything throughout the years and even now have a private tutor, drills online using IXL, and even practicing from the ASVAB prep book since this now high school junior plans to enter the military upon finishing high school.

It's been a while since this was posted. Any input over the last couple years on this program as I am considering it this coming year.

...Story of the World with middle school students because you just can't find anything else that seems to jive with said learner?

We are looking to start this now as I just found a copy of the book at our local Goodwill. Thanks!

Some great authors of superb vintage History books would be Van Loon, Genevieve Foster, Eva March Tappan, H.A. Guerber, V.M. Hilyer, heck, even Dickens wrote a couple kids History books that were good. There is also a great series of books from the late 1800's called The Story of the Nations written by several different authors and each book is about a specific country/nation. A great company to check out the site of too is Heritage History. They have a homeschool History curriculum that uses these very old higher quality writings as their base for History.

Trying to decide between the two. Love that Elemental is Charlotte Mason and rather inexpensive. Love that Pandia is so microscope intense but not liking the evolution part but I know we could skip over that. Opinions on either or both would be very helpful. Thanks- Heather

It's fun but I don't believe it would be enough.

Where was the ...evolution...thing? I don't see that but would love to go back and find it and read that snippet.

I appreciate the reply. I am also on the TRISMS Yahoo Group and have asked the IEW question of them...do you have to use it or can you incorporate a diff. writing curriculum? They all say you can do something different if you wish. I will have to weigh this one. I just really liked the independent work required in TRISMS. Being able to master that skill is a good thing.