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#1 ArwenA

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 10:11 PM

I'm trying to decided what DD should do for logic next year. I really want her to do something and own Fallacy Detective and think it's great. But, I'm uncertain about using it with a 5th grader. Has anyone done this?

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 10:43 PM

We used Mindbenders at that age.
Fallacy Detective works for about age 12-13 and up.

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 07:38 AM

We used the Dandylion Logic series and Mindbenders at that age.

Fallacy Detective and The Thinking Toolbox later.

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 07:48 AM

I'm using TT and FD with a really mature 6th grader (first-born girl of nerdy parents, LOL.) She is doing great, but she is *just* old enough, I think. It's not the concepts so much, as the content of the examples. They are more adult, not in a bad way, but just things most children aren't familiar with.

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 08:00 AM

We are actually really enjoying it. We do some as a family on Friday nights when dh gets home. I made us flashcards as we went to help a bit. It has sparked some amazing discussions and I am looking forward to Thinking Toolbox.

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 08:42 AM

The poster who wrote about the examples is correct...some are just kind of over his head. However, this is not true of everything. It is great (sort of) when your child says, "Mom, that is an appeal to pity propaganda technique." The propaganda section in particular has been a big hit. We just do one lesson a week on Fridays. We read it aloud and discuss the examples. We don't always get to it. We have used Dandylion Logic workbooks also, and they are terrific. I think you could always try it and see how it goes. I have not taken the lessons in order. We are doing the "easier-to-understand" things first. We will probably continue with it next year.
HTH.
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Posted 22 January 2008 - 08:43 AM

I agree with the others, and I'd wait on Fallacy Detective.

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 11:22 AM

I did Fallacy Detective with 4 5th graders last year, and they loved it. We only did half of the book (alternating it with Penny Candy) and plan to finish it this year. I kept a chart of the different fallacies, and they started picking them out in "Time for Kids," commercials, etc...

Good luck!
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#9 ArwenA

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Posted 22 January 2008 - 11:54 AM

Thanks everyone!
I think we might do a lesson per week with games and other books for the other days.
Again, thanks!


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