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Thoughts from those who have read this?

 

My hope is that it gives better direction to CM homeschoolers at the high school level for how to teach upper level composition. Did you find that to be the case? Or is it just more of the same narration information that you can find on most CM websites?

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I’ve only read the first chapter so I’m no help. In flipping through what I like are the real life samples, I have not noticed if there was any high school samples.

There are some high school samples. I'm not done reading yet either, but it does look like she will address the topic.

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I skipped right to that chapter and read it first. I might not even bother reading the rest of the book. :) Overall, I find her process of transitioning from narration to formal writing the best, most helpful I have found. I have read all I can find about this topic at SCM, and there just isn't enough information. Know and Tell has actual STEPS to follow. Like "once they master this, move on to this" type of thing, with general guidelines on how long to spend on each step. There's a clear goal from the beginning to the end. But, that said, the process is supposed to be non-formulaic, at the child's pace, and kind of fluid, so there are really no hard and fast rules. Even so, it's the best thing I've found on the topic. Somehow I muddled through it with my oldest, and he is now at the point of being able to write an essay per week, which is her goal in high school, but this will definitely be helpful for my next ones coming up. I've already started my 8th grader on reaching narration fluency, as she says, which is the first step. I hope that all made sense.

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I skipped right to that chapter and read it first. I might not even bother reading the rest of the book. :) Overall, I find her process of transitioning from narration to formal writing the best, most helpful I have found. I have read all I can find about this topic at SCM, and there just isn't enough information. Know and Tell has actual STEPS to follow. Like "once they master this, move on to this" type of thing, with general guidelines on how long to spend on each step. There's a clear goal from the beginning to the end. But, that said, the process is supposed to be non-formulaic, at the child's pace, and kind of fluid, so there are really no hard and fast rules. Even so, it's the best thing I've found on the topic. Somehow I muddled through it with my oldest, and he is now at the point of being able to write an essay per week, which is her goal in high school, but this will definitely be helpful for my next ones coming up. I've already started my 8th grader on reaching narration fluency, as she says, which is the first step. I hope that all made sense.

 

And that (the bolded) is exactly what I wanted to know!  Now I can feel justified buying it.  I just didn't want the same information that I can find on SCM, AO, etc.  Thank you. :)

 

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For the record, the book is very similar to posts Karen Glass has made on the AO forums about writing. So if you've read all her posts about her method, there might not be a ton new in the book, but it is more elaborate and the narration samples are helpful. But compared to the info on SCM, I find this way better.

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For the record, the book is very similar to posts Karen Glass has made on the AO forums about writing. So if you've read all her posts about her method, there might not be a ton new in the book, but it is more elaborate and the narration samples are helpful. But compared to the info on SCM, I find this way better.

 

I haven't really spent that much time on the forums, so it will be new to me. :) 

 

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Ditto what hollyhock said.  I have wanted a guide to narration as a process over time for, well, forever.  And here it is, in a convenient format, for me to read, re-read, and reference as needed.  I am so glad I bought the book!  It's helped me already in seeing the big picture and how to support/scaffold what we do now to be set up for success in later years.  Rather like The Living Page finally helped me to draw all those keeping activity threads together into a cohesive whole.  It's a worthwhile purchase!

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I'm almost through reading it.  This is exactly what I was looking for.  Finally! A plan for taking CM writing and turning it into formal, structured writing, without formulaic, stilted style.  And not the vague directions I usually get from CM experts.   This is totally do-able in my opinion.  It really is what I was hoping it would be.  It's a way to keep doing what we are doing with the end in mind.  It's no longer a hazy hope that our CM narrations will someday magically turn into essays and reports.  It's an easily understandable system to make that happen.  Highly recommend! 

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