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I have been using Writing and Rhetoric and Well Ordered Language for my 3rd grader this year and we love it. Both were reviewed in a couple threads here in the past week or two. Sorry I don't have the links for you. Maybe search for my posts and they will come up?

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I've been loving Fable for my 3rd grader who did WWE1&2. It is very well-done. We don't use well-ordered language but I do have the kids listen to the audio that goes along with it daily and it has been great. We use it alongside fll3/4, and it has been a great addition.

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We love CAP writing and rhetoric. I like the look of WOL, but I haven't tried it yet. With CAP, your success will depend on the maturity of the child. We switched halfway through third grade from WWE with my oldest. My next child is a little younger in third and still developing some other skills. We will start Fable in fourth for him. If your son can write sentences well and dictate a longer passage, he should be fine. It's a great transition from WWE and includes dictation and copywork. The way they start with playing with sentences is excellent. He will be writing four sentence summaries and then doing amplification. It ends with writing their own fable at the end.

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Another CAP fan here! I’ve found it’s great at giving kids the tools and the confidence to structure their writing. My eldest switched from WWE4 straight into Narrative 2 in fourth grade but I regret missing out on Fable. My younger will switch into Fable for third.

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Listening along with you as I’m thinking the same for my guy, who will be in 3rd next year. We have dabbled with iew and Brave Writer and, while he was excited to get started, the enthusiasm waned quickly. So, our 3rd grade year is coming together:

 

WOL 1

W&R Fable

Apologia zoology 2 and/or 3

AAS3-4

BA online when available plus Primary Math Challenge

VP self paced Middle Ages

 

Seems like enough...

 

 

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I just started using WOL two weeks ago. It’s a hit with my second grader. My 4th grader was apprehensive (he has learning and mood disorders) but he’s warming up to the ease of it, and even the songs (which I admit are hokey but do stick in your head). It looks thorough and has plenty of practice, or I think you could skip some of the practice if your child is a quick learner. I always start off doing more and then cut back, if I feel we are progressing.

 

I have W/R too, and I think for this semester we are going to alternate them—do a lesson on one then a lesson in the other, so as not to overwhelm my older student. My younger student can handle more but is young enough she doesn’t need to.

 

The quality is very good. I love all these classical programs—they just fit our philosophy.

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We're actually about to start WOL today with my 4th grader. I had intended actually to let both do it together (4th and 6th grade) but I've decided this is definitely not going to fly with my older. The pages are a bit busy to the eye, and for my 6th grader it would just be too much of a "wall of text" to read, so he'd really resist something like this.

 

But my 4th grader loooooves Writing & Rhetoric. We put her into Book Two (Narrative I) just recently and she's just over the moon in love with it. I think she'll really enjoy WOL also, and she's coming to it having no real explicit grammar training (she has gotten it from her copywork, narration, dictation, etc but mostly through using some BW products here and there over the last few years).

 

The teacher's guide for WOL could use a re-write, honestly. It's a bit convoluted and I don't like how the teacher pages are sorted. It could be a bit clearer IMO. But, the program looks super thorough and also gentle enough that my kid won't get confused. I like it, but I'll have to report back after I've used it.

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I found this review:

https://cathyduffyreviews.com/homeschool-reviews-core-curricula/composition-and-grammar/ungraded-multi-level-resources-grammar/well-ordered-language-the-curious-child-s-guide-to-grammar

 

It says WOL was designed to be used in a classroom and has group work which would have to be adapted to be used at home. Do you find that to be the case?

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Most of the group work is just analyzing sentences together aloud, which we have no trouble doing with just the two of us. It is not a program a kid could do independently, but I don't think you need more than one student. There are a couple of suggested group games to do, but we skipped them because we didn't need the practice. The most I have had to adapt has been picking and choosing which lesson sections to do, since there is way more than enough review for my kid.

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