ktgrok Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2018/02/09/christian-pastor-the-larry-nassar-scandal-is-the-fault-of-immodest-gymnasts/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=FBCP-PATH&utm_content=Feb2018 I'd like to say I'm shocked, but I'm not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cintinative Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I can't even read past the first few sentences. This is unBiblical and wrong. Period. Those women/girls were victims of evil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 The title stopped me. Nope. All kinds of nope. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 It does make you wonder what dark secrets this so-called pastor is hiding. I'm sure he considers himself a "red blooded American" male and we all know that such folks cannot possibly resist the temptation of a female body not covered by a shapeless sack. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Word Nerd Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I got as far as the first line, saw "Kevin Swanson" in the wording, and immediately stopped reading. I saw this and don’t even need to read the story to have a good idea what he said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparklyUnicorn Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 what an arse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparklyUnicorn Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Yeah, he is more "disaster" than "pastor". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicMom Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 At some point I assume Swanson will follow in the footsteps of his former BFF Doug Phillips and have some sex scandal of his own. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairfarmhand Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 What a pile of poop. This doctor did this in an office. I presume the young ladies wore normal street clothes to a doctors office. Unless gymnasts wear leotards 24/7. Nope. They don’t. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happi duck Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 So.gross. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenmom5 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I got as far as the first line, saw "Kevin Swanson" in the wording, and immediately stopped reading. I'm hesitant to say - but I've never heard of him. It does make you wonder what dark secrets this so-called pastor is hiding. I'm sure he considers himself a "red blooded American" male and we all know that such folks cannot possibly resist the temptation of a female body not covered by a shapeless sack. in that case - he's in the wrong country. he should go to a middle eastern country where women are forced to wear burkas. (not iran - currently women are rebelling and taking their burkha's off in public.) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann.without.an.e Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) I believe that men who do and say godless things in the "name of God" will face judgement from God himself. Jesus was pro-women. He spoke to them and included them in a culture when he "shouldn't have". He stood up for women. He refused to treat them as if they were unclean. He spoke to a Samaritan woman who had been repetitively left by men in a culture where women depended on men and Jesus never once said "you deserved the treatment you received". In fact, I think he may have been the first to see her as a person and he offered her a new identity that would not be dependent on a man who could turn around and divorce her and leave her "identity-less". I think he would have quite the judgement for men who would say that little girls were at fault for being abused by a grown man. Edited February 12, 2018 by Attolia 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I decided to listen to the pastor's own words. (I don't want to link to his radio website, but it was easy to find. This topic begins at about 15:25 minutes into the program.) *Parents need to teach their children that the world is a dangerous place and there are people who will try to take advantage of them. *Children need to be taught that they have a responsibility to God to cry out and tell their parents when something shameful is going on (as some of the victims tried to do) and parents/churches, etc. need to take seriously the reports of abuse. *The model of the Greek gymnasium provides an opportunity for pedophilia. Open showers are a risk (examples: coaches like Hastert and Sandusky who abused boys) *Parents need to consider the risks of private, 1:1 coaching. (The same is true for private time with someone like a youth pastor, too. ) *The Indy Star investigative report on the sport of gymnastics is mentioned. I listened to the program, and I have to say that I found myself in agreement with some of the advice to parents. ( Based on my own hatred of junior high PE classes because of a creepy female gym teacher who always watched us showering, I'd be in favor of private showers in schools, gyms, etc.!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandwalker Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 For some reason I pictured the doctor visits happening at the same building as the gymnastics practice, where they would be wearing leotards. I never gave it much thought. I have no idea where he saw them or if they were coming from/going to practice. Either way, no excuse, of course. He saw some of them for "treatments" in the basement of his home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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