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#1 KarenC

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 11:51 AM

I'm thinking about this for my junior next year.  I thought we could read and analyze famous speeches, essays, and scientific papers.  She reads plenty of fiction.  I thought this might be a good way to add in more nonfiction.  Is there anything like this already?  Has anyone tried something similar?  



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Posted 11 February 2018 - 01:09 PM

AP Language and Composition is a bit like this in that it focuses on nonfiction but I've never seen scientific papers being recommended.  We do read scientific papers in our homeschool sometimes, when they're accessible, and it makes sense to do so. 


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 05:07 PM

AP Language and Composition is a bit like this in that it focuses on nonfiction but I've never seen scientific papers being recommended.  We do read scientific papers in our homeschool sometimes, when they're accessible, and it makes sense to do so. 

I thought it could be something like AP Language and Composition with little writing.  More discussion based and recognizing the rhetorical devices used and evaluating effectiveness.  She likes science more than history and literature though so I thought we could do something similar with scientific journal articles, science based essays, and related charts, graphs, and data.


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 05:16 PM

I thought it could be something like AP Language and Composition with little writing.  More discussion based and recognizing the rhetorical devices used and evaluating effectiveness.  She likes science more than history and literature though so I thought we could do something similar with scientific journal articles, science based essays, and related charts, graphs, and data.

 

There is a lot of really good science writing out there--Carl Sagan, Rachael Carson, and Oliver Sacks are some examples I can think of off the top of my head.

 

It's also interesting to see the extremely wide range of writing skills displayed in scientific papers--all the way from almost incoherent (and not due to the subject matter) to crystal clear.  Even my son notices it and comments on it.



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Posted 11 February 2018 - 11:05 PM

I like this idea and would love to hear more about how you would go about it. I can see myself spending more time than I have trying to find the perfect articles, speeches, etc to use. And then running out of time to find anything and the whole thing petering. Would you plan on reading all of them yourself and discussing them? 


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 03:14 PM

I like this idea and would love to hear more about how you would go about it. I can see myself spending more time than I have trying to find the perfect articles, speeches, etc to use. And then running out of time to find anything and the whole thing petering. Would you plan on reading all of them yourself and discussing them? 

I have plenty of speeches.  http://www.readwrite...eechSignOut.pdf

http://www.americanr...peechesall.html

http://www.famous-sp...eches-by-women/

 

Speeches are the easiest to find.  I was planning to use excepts from Silent Spring by Rachel Carson, Cosmos from Carl Sagan, and Death By Black Hole by Neil Tyson deGrasse.  

 

I found a couple of sources for science articles.  https://www.the-scie....com/?home.home

http://www.sciencemag.org/news  

 

I thought I could add in editorials from the Wall Street Journal or other major newspapers to include in some economic, social, or political topics.

 

I'm still thinking about how to organize and approach the whole thing.


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 07:11 PM

Not sure how to do a link with my phone, but there’s an annual book series we’ve used, The Best American Science and Nature Writing.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:20 AM

What about NYT Science articles? They are short and accesible. I find them quite interesting.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:56 PM

The Story of Western Science web page has links to some original science writing. There isn't a lot of twentieth century stuff (because of copyright, I assume). We really enjoyed the Darwin selections.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 09:26 AM

Not sure how to do a link with my phone, but there’s an annual book series we’ve used, The Best American Science and Nature Writing.

I'll look at this, thanks!



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Posted 14 February 2018 - 09:27 AM

What about NYT Science articles? They are short and accesible. I find them quite interesting.

We've actually used this before and I'd forgotten about it.  Thanks!



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Posted 14 February 2018 - 09:28 AM

The Story of Western Science web page has links to some original science writing. There isn't a lot of twentieth century stuff (because of copyright, I assume). We really enjoyed the Darwin selections.

I'll look at this.  Thanks!