mom31257 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) Is there any math in Conceptual Physics, or could it be easily skipped for testing? Our co-op usually has some grade levels combined, and I'm wondering if we could offer a physics class with different level students. We meet every other week for questions and review of the material and for labs. If you have taught physics in a similar situation, would you share which curriculum you used and any insight? Thank you! Edited November 19, 2017 by mom31257 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootAnn Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I am mainly bumping this for the Monday morning crowd for you. I am teaching my dd#2 Conceptual Physics this year and while it is light math, it is not no math. It seems like it would be easy to add more math. I can't imagine doing it without any math. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyDay Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 If you are talking about Hewiit's Conceptual, yes, there is math. But, if I remember correctly, it is pretty basic algebra. I haven't used this program in a few years so I'm not sure if it is Algebra 1 or Algebra 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom31257 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 I am mainly bumping this for the Monday morning crowd for you. I am teaching my dd#2 Conceptual Physics this year and while it is light math, it is not no math. It seems like it would be easy to add more math. I can't imagine doing it without any math. Could students in pre-algebra do the math that is included, especially if I could help them along the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkT Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Could students in pre-algebra do the math that is included, especially if I could help them along the way? Are they capable in math (not struggling) then I would say yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootAnn Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I've thought about this question for a few hours and the answer depends. If a student is in pre-algebra because that's all they've gotten to so far, you could introduce the math along the way. If a student has struggled in math and isn't ready for algebra yet (and that's why they are in pre-a), they might not be able to get some of the math. Could students in pre-algebra do the math that is included, especially if I could help them along the way? My dd#2 is doing algebra concurrently. Already, I've found four or five times that something that I've just taught in algebra is being used in the conceptual physics we're using. (We're not using Hewitt's CP.) Ultimately, I'll agree with MarkT's post with the understanding that it depends on the kid and it depends on what you choose to use for conceptual physics. Is there a reason you want to offer conceptual physics vs. physical science? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom31257 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 I've thought about this question for a few hours and the answer depends. If a student is in pre-algebra because that's all they've gotten to so far, you could introduce the math along the way. If a student has struggled in math and isn't ready for algebra yet (and that's why they are in pre-a), they might not be able to get some of the math. My dd#2 is doing algebra concurrently. Already, I've found four or five times that something that I've just taught in algebra is being used in the conceptual physics we're using. (We're not using Hewitt's CP.) Ultimately, I'll agree with MarkT's post with the understanding that it depends on the kid and it depends on what you choose to use for conceptual physics. Is there a reason you want to offer conceptual physics vs. physical science? We may need to combine some 7th-8th graders with high school students who will need to count the course for high school credit. Our state requires students to have a credit in physical science or physics, and I thought that most high school credit physical science courses had math in them as well. I had just seen some posts about the conceptual physics course and thought it might be a good option for such a wide age range of students. We also have a few students who have already completed physical science, biology, and chemistry, so it might be a good 4th credit for them. I'm teaching chemistry this year, and a couple of them aren't strong math students. I'm helping them get through it, but I don't think they could handle a regular physics course. An introductory physics would be better for them. It might be impossible to do. Could you suggest a good physical science that could still count as high school credit? We may be able to offer two different high school credit sciences depending upon the availability in our schedule and teachers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkT Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 We may need to combine some 7th-8th graders with high school students who will need to count the course for high school credit. Our state requires students to have a credit in physical science or physics, and I thought that most high school credit physical science courses had math in them as well. I had just seen some posts about the conceptual physics course and thought it might be a good option for such a wide age range of students. We also have a few students who have already completed physical science, biology, and chemistry, so it might be a good 4th credit for them. I'm teaching chemistry this year, and a couple of them aren't strong math students. I'm helping them get through it, but I don't think they could handle a regular physics course. An introductory physics would be better for them. It might be impossible to do. Could you suggest a good physical science that could still count as high school credit? We may be able to offer two different high school credit sciences depending upon the availability in our schedule and teachers. for Georgia: http://archives.gadoe.org/_documents/doe/legalservices/160-4-2-.48.pdf Physical Science is one of the choices. Search for an appropriate detailed syllabus to follow if you go that route. I would think that a Physical Science course may have more math. IMHO I like the "Conceptual Physics" idea but make sure it conforms with what you need. example: https://schoolwires.henry.k12.ga.us/Page/85659 Older versions of Hewitt is a good choice for the text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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