marylandhsmom Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 So we've been off the beaten track for a year using a variety of workbooks but I'm wanting to get back on more solid footing for my 10 yr old DD. What are people using for "English" -- writing/grammar/usage/spelling, etc. Or is everyone piecemealing out Language Arts? Would love an all-in-one for usage/grammar/spelling/writing, if such a thing exsits!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 So we've been off the beaten track for a year using a variety of workbooks but I'm wanting to get back on more solid footing for my 10 yr old DD. What are people using for "English" -- writing/grammar/usage/spelling, etc. Or is everyone piecemealing out Language Arts? Would love an all-in-one for usage/grammar/spelling/writing, if such a thing exsits!! LOL See, I write "language arts" . :D Because "language arts" means different things to different people. And you almost have to use different materials for different components of English, really: phonics, grammar, composition, spelling/vocabulary, reading/literature, penmanship Grammar: Easy Grammar (I'm not a fan of diagramming). Composition:Writing Strands. Grammar and composition in a single source: either Building With Diligence (4th) or Following the Plan (5th), depending on my dc's skills Spelling: if necessary, Spelling by Sound and Structure Vocabulary: Wordly Wise Reading/literature: nothing formal; reading lots of trade books. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3girls4me Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 My 4th grader uses CLE for language arts - it includes spelling, grammar, and penmanship. We added Wordsmith Apprentice for writing. She also does written narrations once or twice a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylandhsmom Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) See, I write "language arts" . :D Because "language arts" means different things to different people. And you almost have to use different materials for different components of English, really: phonics, grammar, composition, spelling/vocabulary, reading/literature, penmanship Grammar: Easy Grammar (I'm not a fan of diagramming). Composition:Writing Strands. Grammar and composition in a single source: either Building With Diligence (4th) or Following the Plan (5th), depending on my dc's skills Spelling: if necessary, Spelling by Sound and Structure Vocabulary: Wordly Wise Reading/literature: nothing formal; reading lots of trade books. Thanks Ellie! Edited November 19, 2017 by marylandhsmom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylandhsmom Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 My 4th grader uses CLE for language arts - it includes spelling, grammar, and penmanship. We added Wordsmith Apprentice for writing. She also does written narrations once or twice a week. THANKS 3girls4me! But does she get tired of the many pages?? We tried CLE LA in grade 2 and it was a bust... to much writing.... We also use CLE math.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourisenough Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 CLE for 3rd and I plan to continue with it. Older girls used a variety of things for 4th/5th, but all together (all the different LA components: Grammar, writing, penmanship, vocabulary, usage, etc.) certainly were more pages than a CLE lesson. I loved some of those individual components, but this DD8 doesn’t have the patience/stamina to use a bunch of different resources. She’s a get-er-done kind of student. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalsummer Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 We use Classical Writing; they free read and I strew the lit I'd like them to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondeviolin Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 My 4th grader is reading lit from around the Middle Ages, writing across the curriculum, doing FLL 4 and Apples and Pears spelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneezyone Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) Spelling Workout, Easy Grammar, Writing and Rhetoric, Vocab from Classical Roots, and homegrown novel/poem/play units. This is DSs magic formula and we’ll use it again next year too. Edited November 19, 2017 by Sneezyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ondreeuh Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 My 4th grader is using: 180 Days of Writing 5 for composition. It's really helped him get over his writing reluctance, because I let him be silly in his writing. It includes lots of stylistic practice too, like writing with metaphors, idioms, concise language, etc. I never see this mentioned on the board, but it fits our needs really well. So far the topics have been picked out for him - like describe a house with useful inventions you've created, argue for or against trick-or-treating, instruct someone in the process of voting for president. The focus is on the writing, less on the content (which is fine with me right now). Grammar for the WTM - we just started this, and I think it will work out very well for him. If he hadn't done much grammar before, I would just do Growing with Grammar which goes a little slower. Zaner Bloser 2C for cursive. He is nearly done, and he will do 3 next, or else do copywork using quotes from The Incorrigible Children of Ashton Place that I typed out on ZB online. He doesn't need spelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeAgain Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 This year we're using level 3 of ELTL, and I think we'll continue with at least level 4 and 5 before moving writing to WWS. When I did have a 4/5th grader, he was slightly behind in language arts. We used Writing Tales and followed it with Word Roots + Moving Beyond The Page when other programs didn't work for us (Classical Writing, LLATL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherry in OH Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 My current 4th grader: Pentime Cursive 4, Spelling Works, and Wordsmith Apprentice Older brother, 4th: Can Do Cursive, Spelling Works, Junior English 3; 5th: Writing in Cursive F, Elementary Diagramming Worktext/First Whole Book of Diagrams, Wordsmith Apprentice (part, he's finishing this year), and Typing.com Literature is/was a combination of read alouds correlated with history, library book club selections, and freely chosen works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsrmyjoy Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 We use CLE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMoon Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 My 4th grader is currently using:Grammar: Junior Analytical Grammar, and she dabbled a bit on Khan Academy's grammar (JAG doesn't last a whole school year, so the extra practice at Khan was fine) Writing: Writing & Rhetoric book 1, moving quickly (She could have started in book 2, but she's enjoying book 1, and there is no more wailing and gnashing of teeth. I'll take it.) Spelling: Rod and Staff book 4 Literature: stack of high quality children's books that I collected over the summer, she picks what she reads from that stack daily and we discuss it I don't do separate vocab; she gets more than enough from her other subjects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targhee Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 MCT Grammar Town, then Practice Town and Paragraph Town (reading, not writing), then W&R (keep going with Practice Town), along with Read alouds and free reading and poetry memorization. No spelling (we usually stop that by 3rd grade), No literary studies or lit units. W&R gives us some discussion, and the rest we get through family read aloud discussion. We also talk about poetic elements and literary elements in this context. My kids did not hit logic stage in 5th grade. I wonder whose child really does? It's more like 7th. So, 4th-6th are a time to have fun with your eager child because most hit logic stage (and puberty) and their brains melt out their ears not to be recovered for 2-4 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamakelly Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 We are using CLE for 4th and we both really like it. I need to add is something for more writing, but other then that it’s great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2_girls_mommy Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Rod and Staff spelling and English covers writing as well. It is all I have ever used with both of my very different learners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3girls4me Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) THANKS 3girls4me! But does she get tired of the many pages?? We tried CLE LA in grade 2 and it was a bust... to much writing.... We also use CLE math.... This particular child doesn't get tired of the pages. Of my three girls, she is the one that actually gets excited by workbooks. Granted, I don't let her use them in all subjects, but it works well for language arts and math. And it actually isn't that many pages considering all that it's covering. (In my opinion) We've separated all the parts our before and there was more. Unless of course you use something oral. Edited November 19, 2017 by 3girls4me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homemommy83 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 If you are looking for an all-in-one The Good and the Beautiful is a very good program. If you are looking for a grammar intensive year I would suggest Rod and Staff English 4 or 5, Rod and Staff Spelling by Sound and Structure, and reading great literature for a set time daily. You can always add in cheap Pentime handwriting 5 and a Wordly Wise for extra vocabulary (definitely optional). I also love Intermediate Language Lessons, but it is more usage focused; it is not a solid grammar vocabulary or diagramming style program, but it does have a lot of writing practice built in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMD Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 My ds for 4th this year did: MCT's Grammar Town/ Paragraph Town level and copywork/narration/dictation WTM/WWE style. He did spelling using Natural Speller, and read lots of good books. For 5th he will finish MCT's town level (vocab/poetry/rest of practice) and do Classical Writing Aesop. And continue the spelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollyhock Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 My first three 4th graders used R&S English, R&S Spelling and WWE 4. My current 4th grader is using the same except LLATL Orange instead of R&S English. I think R&S would be too much for him. I am using LLATL for my older kids and I really like it, but I'm a bit undecided about the Orange level. If I had a kid who liked creative writing, it would be great, but I am finding I'm skipping some things because this kid is NOT a creative writer. Otherwise, it's good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAM Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 My 4th grader is using Writing Strands, Zaner-Bloser handwriting, Spelling Workout, and First Language Lessons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Keeper Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 This year's 5th grader is using R&S 5 for grammar and spelling; writing across the subjects per SWB's audio lectures...(history and lit narrations and outlining from history every so often). Also using CLE Reading 5 for part of the year, and reading through the books in SL Core E at her own pace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wehave8 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) Fix It! I think you could get a lot of what you are looking for in it. Pam Edited November 20, 2017 by wehave8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisoncooks Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 My 4th grader is using: Beowulf's Grammar for grammar (was using Easy Grammar/Daily Grams before this) Apples & Pears for spelling Dancing Pears/ETC for phonics Random books for reading Pentime for cursive Writing Skills workbook I'm not thrilled with the piecemeal approach, but CLE didn't work for us, and I couldn't find anything else that did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAttachedMama Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 We use a complete core through Memoria Press which is sort of an all in one package. hahaha But listing everything out it would be.... Foreign Language: Memoria Press Latin sequence Grammar: Grammar is learned mainly in Latin and then re-enforced through MP English Grammar Recitation and Daily Language Review Workbooks Composition: Memoria Press Classical Composition Spelling: AAS in the early years, then spelling plus Literature: Memoria Press Literature Kits Penmanship: Memoria Press Cursive Phonics: REWARDS by Sopris press (in the summers) (I use this because my two oldest are dyslexic.) If I had to choose an ALL-IN-ONE language arts program, I would probably choose Cottage Press or English Lessons Through Literature. :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage81 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 My 4th grade DD is currently using: IEW Fix It Grammar IEW Ancient-History Based Writing Lessons All About Spelling Build Your Library (for both read-alouds and readers) Universal Handwriting Cursive Enrichment Wordly Wise 3000 (she gets plenty of vocabulary elsewhere, so I'm considering dropping this) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madteaparty Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I love Galore Park. It's no-nonsense, effective, and does not present an intimidating size ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbes Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 In 4th we are using WWE (expanded for grammar + grammar memory work), AAS, Bravewriter, Pentime Handwriting, Prima Latina (I put this here because grammar), literature reading and discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jame Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 We are currently doing 3rd grade, but will likely be using the same for 4th/5th Grammar~Daily Grams and Easy Grammar Writing~Writeshop Spelling~Spellwell Vocabulary~Wordly Wise Reading~All About Reading and then free read after finishing AAR4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beka87 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Cottage Press is all in one and we love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausmumof3 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 My 5th grader has spelling workout, iew Australian history themed unit, and galaxy grammar. For literature we are just reading sonlight books that relate to history so nothing formal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoutTN Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 FLL 4 and/or R&S 5 for grammar Various combinations of Treasured Conversations, CAP Fable and Narrative, IEW SWI B, Kilgallon Sentence Composing for Elementary and homemade writing assignments, for composition. AAS for spelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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