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#1 Guinevere

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 07:42 PM

Have you changed your behavior? Limited outings? Something else?

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 07:46 PM

No


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Posted 14 November 2017 - 07:48 PM

Not at all.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 07:49 PM

No, not really.

 

I pray a little harder when I get onto a plane, I would say. 

 

But although I have never even held a gun in my hand in my life, I'm thinking about getting one.  Not as much because of the shootings as from the increasing sense that the police are not really able to protect me in my home so I'd better be able to do so.


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Posted 14 November 2017 - 07:50 PM

No. I probably make an effort to be more aware of my surroundings and people near me when I'm out and about and have encouraged my kids to do the same.  It might be time to watch one of those videos again, you know, what to do in an active shooter situation.



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 07:51 PM

Nope. The risk of anything happening is still tiny.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 07:52 PM

No.

I do hate that I'm dependent on my ability to run, hide, or fight as I've learned in work trainings. I hate knowing that one of my kids can't do any of those things for himself and it's pretty impossible for a parent/caregiver to do those things for an adult sized teen with disabilities.

That said there's no point in choosing not to follow my regular activities.
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 07:54 PM

Well, we now have to teach about and have "Armed Intruder" drills in school, so I suppose so in that way.

 

But for our actual lives?  No.  I'd rather live and die young than grow into old age and do absolutely nothing.  There's very little I fear in life.  Death is not on that list - nor are armed lunatics.


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Posted 14 November 2017 - 07:54 PM

No. Because doing so can't predictably keep my loved ones safe.

 

If I don't send my kids to school to avoid school shooters, then I run the risk of being somewhere else during those hours and being shot there instead. 

 

I pay more attention to strangers and abandoned backpacks/bags than I did before, but that is about it. 

 

Otherwise we can't go to the mall, the movie, a concert, for a walk down the street, to work...etc.

 

ETA: my cousin walked out of the cafeteria as Kip Kinkle walked in during the Thurston School shooting in Oregon 1998.  There has also been a mass shooting at the college I attended and it greatly affected the community.  My husbands friend just lost a niece in Las Vegas. So, while I haven't had direct impact from the shootings, they have been a very real part of our lives.  


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Posted 14 November 2017 - 07:58 PM

No.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:00 PM

Yes.  The ease in which crowds are targeted is frightening.  I tense up around holidays and don't like going to large community events anymore.


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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:01 PM

No, not really. Kelly

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:11 PM

No, not at all. Like a fellow pp, I'd rather live and die than live in fear.


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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:11 PM

No. 



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:12 PM

No. Statistically I am FAR more likely to get seriously injured or die taking my kids to their various appointments and activities than I am to fall victim to random violence (mass shootings or getting caught in the crossfire of gang-related shootings)


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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:12 PM

Nope. I’m not about to live life in fear.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:19 PM

No.  I figure I'm far more likely to die in a car accident like my grandparents than in a mass shooting and I still drive wherever I need to go.


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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:20 PM

Not really.  Although I do brainstorm with grown dc from time to time about options should they run up on someone violent.  Mainly just to make them aware that it's a possibility they might have to plan for in their lifetimes.  Otherwise, I'm with Creekland.  I'd rather die living.

 

ETA:  Come to think of it, however, my dh is actually more likely to run up on something like this.  There are regularly drive-by shootings near his work.


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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:21 PM

No.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:23 PM

Very little.  There are some areas that I don't let dd drive to alone, but not because of random shooters, but because of increased crime in general.  But, they do make me incredibly sad and very angry.  


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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:24 PM

No. Statistically I am FAR more likely to get seriously injured or die taking my kids to their various appointments and activities than I am to fall victim to random violence (mass shootings or getting caught in the crossfire of gang-related shootings)


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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:43 PM

I got a bit more cynical with some comments made by some *extreme* gun-rights supporters after Sandy Hook. Not the kinds of things my family and friends who hunt or are soldiers (like my husband lol) would ever say.

But I lost some faith in the national conversation and bipartanship, not with any actions taken or not taken, but just some offensive things that were said.

What I mean is the people who don't believe Sandy Hook happened, or pretend that they don't believe it. It is just so upsetting to me.

Since then I have been equally numbed on all of it, I don't expect anything to change in my lifetime.

As far as my life personally -- no, I'm not worried. The odds just aren't there. Plus my husband is in the Infantry and on some level I have made peace with the idea he could be injured, and so in comparison to that I just don't worry about daily life in the United States.

Edit: I do feel very bad for victims and their families... I cried after this most recent shooting, it was just so sad to think of it.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:49 PM

No, not really

I went to see Mumford and Sons a week after the shooting at the Ariana Grande concert. I'd be lying if I said it wasn't on my mind. I made sure I knew where exits were and said thank you to security on my way out. But I didn't avoid going because of the fear off what MIGHT happen.

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#24 Sandwalker

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 08:58 PM

No

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:01 PM

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#26 Rosika

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:05 PM

No, I still feel very safe here. I left my home during civil war, and my first residence in the U.S. was a part of town where gunfire was constant background noise. My reactions to these shootings, and this type of crime in general, is very detached. But I also avoid news outlets, especially fresh from a situation. I prefer genuine news reports to the guessing-as-we-go reports that currently pass as "news" so that's part of it, too. In my mind these shootings are still very isolated, tragic though each one is.

 

These shootings become real for me when i see feature stories on the victims. It changes my life in the sense that I'm reminded how short life is and to not take it for granted. But it doesn't change my life in the sense that my day-to-day outings and such.

 

But I was at the park today chatting up some other moms, and one had gone to a major concert last night. She said she wasn't NOT going to go, but that she felt on edge for the first several songs. She shared, too, that she'd have not chosen to go to the concert and only went because she was taking her son to his first concert and this was his favorite group. I get the sense that these shootings are forcing her to evaluate what her priorities are, at least in shared situations (concert shootings, her concert attendance). She said the lead singer actually addressed the topic from the stage, and that this helped put her at ease. 



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:13 PM

not at all and I believve the mentally ill that do these killings are being encourage by all the 24/hr news recycling gun yakking and every freaking internet page.

So they are psychotic in the first place already hearing someone tell them to kill. Then they read about a fame killer every day online and every minute they watch TV.

Thats the reason for the increase.

I wish CNN/FOX would shut the hell up.

Also the church shooter was a pro gun person with mental illness

SO in his sick mind hearing the consant yaking of people to take guns away after the vegas shooting more than likely tricker him and his sick fantancy of showing his power through terrorizing and killing those people

YOu are in more danger of dying from driving. More people are killed in car. I work ER I get way more MVA then GSW.

See the constant coverage is causing people to develop mental disorders like anxiety.

The 24 hr news networks need to get out of business. That's my answer

also every time the antigun people start talking about taking gun its makes people that like gun start buying them up.

So if you shut up about taking them away there would not be so many sold.

The antigun politics is causing more gun violence.

You will never get American's to give up the guns with out a civil war. I actually know many "good old boys' that are getting read cause they believe it will happen.

I own guns and my natural independent side wants to buy more and stock ammo cause its a right and a hobby I like.

SO if you really want to change gun laws you have to shut up about them for about 10 years. SO the gun owner might actually trust you.

There are many of us that wouldn't mind required Licenses similar to drivers license. Although driver license don't save people

But many gun owner want do it because they figure it will become a data base for future confiscation if America political continue to go socialist/communist leaning.

Just something for you non gun owners or gun haters to think about.

Nm changed my mind on commenting.


Anyway, on the op, no, I'm still running around doing my thing.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:22 PM

No.



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:24 PM

never mind

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:25 PM

No

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:26 PM

No.



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:29 PM

I have always had pretty good situational awareness, but I have definitely become more alert to my surroundings in the last few years. Just things like paying attention to the people near me, what kinds of things they have with them, and whether they seem agitated or not. I also trust my gut and if something doesn't feel right, I may move to another area. Like the other day, I was walking into Home Depot to get something and there was a guy about 20 feet ahead of me that sent all my red flag alarms in full alert. I got back in my car and went back to Home Depot later in the day.
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:30 PM

not at all and I believve the mentally ill that do these killings are being encourage by all the 24/hr news recycling gun yakking and every freaking internet page.

So they are psychotic in the first place already hearing someone tell them to kill. Then they read about a fame killer every day online and every minute they watch TV.

Thats the reason for the increase.

I wish CNN/FOX would shut the hell up.

Also the church shooter was a pro gun person with mental illness

SO in his sick mind hearing the consant yaking of people to take guns away after the vegas shooting more than likely tricker him and his sick fantancy of showing his power through terrorizing and killing those people

YOu are in more danger of dying from driving. More people are killed in car. I work ER I get way more MVA then GSW.

See the constant coverage is causing people to develop mental disorders like anxiety.

The 24 hr news networks need to get out of business. That's my answer

also every time the antigun people start talking about taking gun its makes people that like gun start buying them up.

So if you shut up about taking them away there would not be so many sold.

The antigun politics is causing more gun violence.

You will never get American's to give up the guns with out a civil war. I actually know many "good old boys' that are getting read cause they believe it will happen.

I own guns and my natural independent side wants to buy more and stock ammo cause its a right and a hobby I like.

SO if you really want to change gun laws you have to shut up about them for about 10 years. SO the gun owner might actually trust you.

There are many of us that wouldn't mind required Licenses similar to drivers license. Although driver license don't save people

But many gun owner want do it because they figure it will become a data base for future confiscation if America political continue to go socialist/communist leaning.

Just something for you non gun owners or gun haters to think about.


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Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:32 PM

Nope.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:38 PM

Ok can't comment on that one post.
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:39 PM

Well, when the DC Beltway Sniper was still at large it did somewhat. I thought twice about where I was going and how probable it was the I could be targeted.

And after 9-11 (granted, that was a very different situation), I found it very distressing that military jets were patrolling the sky daily. I did not want to go anywhere that people congregate; I felt very vulnerable living near DC.

I’m not a big sort of concert-goer or all that likely to be where people congregate because it’s not really my thing, but it is likely thatif I attended a certain type of event, I might look around to scope out where there could be vulnerability. Of course, I guess it is possible I could be attacked at church or at Walmart just as soon as a baseball stadium or concert. I do know that our church does have armed security; it is just not an advertised fact or something the average by-stander would notice.

I do have a general feeling of safety (false, most probably) just because there are a lot of gun regs in this state, so guns are not a big part of the public picture the way they are in some other states. However, we are bordered by states with much more lax gun laws, so it’s not as though it is a very long drive or a difficult thing if someone needs to be where gun laws are looser.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:47 PM

Well, when the DC Beltway Sniper was still at large it did somewhat. I thought twice about where I was going and how probable it was the I could be targeted.

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I definitely changed my behavior Sept/Oct 2002. That was frightening. Especially, when a boy was shot being dropped at school. Everyone behavior changed. All the sports in my area were cancelled for fall. We weren't going to trick or treat and then they were caught two days before Halloween.
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 10:18 PM

Not really, but I was asked at church this past week if there were other exits from the sanctuary and where they were.  It's definitely on some people's minds.



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 10:29 PM

Well, I do admit I have thought about it in church, specifically when I am volunteering in the nursery and wondering how I (and the other adult volunteer in the room) would protect the kids.  I know in a church shooting in the sanctuary, several of the men (including my husband) would likely be targets because they would stand up to try to disarm or stop a shooter.  (I don't know of anyone who carries in church so when I say "stop" I don't mean by shooting necessarily).  So I do think about it sometimes, but it doesn't stop me from going to church. 



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 10:44 PM

No, so far there is nothing I can really change. However, I am wondering if I had kids in a school system, if I'd be scared. Just today, another shooting - targeting a school after he shot neighbors - in a very small community not that far from us.



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 10:58 PM

I had a momentary thought of “what if” while walking into a stadium for a U2 concert a couple of months ago, and I have considered where I would go if there were ever a shooter at my office building. I haven’t changed my behavior though.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 11:16 PM

I can't attend this as it's only in the US but if I could, I would  http://www.bleedingcontrol.org/  All I can do is encourage all you guys to take the training. 

& watching from abroad, all it's done in my life is made me more firm in my position and in making sure my politicians know how important gun control is. 


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Posted 14 November 2017 - 11:18 PM

Yes, it’s made me much more aware. I find that I’m looking around a lot more when I’m out and thinking “what will I do if...” I live in a small town, but even those aren’t immune.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 11:18 PM

No *but* I've been very safety conscious my whole life.

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 11:22 PM

No.



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:09 AM

Nope. My husband's always the one that's aware of the exits and stuff and I'm the one living in the moment. I was nervous for a friend moving to London. A lot more happens there in such a concentrated area, but he still goes about his daily life and hits the tourist spots with his family. The security for large crowds has changed drastically. Snipers and helicopters were present for the latest marathon. 

 

I won't let fear win. 


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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:17 AM

No, though I do think about it sometimes when we are in crowded or popular places. I had a moment's pause before ComicCon this year, but they always have excellent security. I admit to feeling much less annoyed at the wait and hassle of having my bag checked than in previous years. Any fear over possibilities did not stop me from going. 


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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:25 AM

Other than planning on getting my concealed carry license, no.
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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:29 AM

No, but I struggle with anxiety so it is a conscious effort to not allow fear to take over. The thoughts of staying home are there, I just choose not to give into them.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 02:13 AM

No, not really.

I pray a little harder when I get onto a plane, I would say.

But although I have never even held a gun in my hand in my life, I'm thinking about getting one. Not as much because of the shootings as from the increasing sense that the police are not really able to protect me in my home so I'd better be able to do so.

If you do this, take a reputable class on what it means to do so and plan on practicing at a range frequently.

I say this as one who has done so.

The instructors made it clear that the next class was more impt and that involved the use of pepper spray.

Annnnd in no way meaning to be a counselor...you have to think through the circumstances in which you would use your weapon, being informed by your faith and by the legal and ballistic experts.

For the record, I am a good shot. In target practice.
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