fourisenough Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Does anyone know whether CLE Civics & World Geography (listed as 9th grade course) and/or World History (listed as 10th grade course) are anything like their 8th grade American History course/text called Changing Frontiers? We're using the latter now and it is absolutely perfect for DD13 for 7th grade. I'd love to continue with one of the former courses for her 8th grade year if they are written in the same spirit. We're secular homeschoolers, fwiw. It looks like the 9th/10th courses have no textbook, which would be a big difference from the 8th grade course. Anyone know how secular-friendly they would be? How thorough and academically rigorous, compared to Changing Frontiers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbollin Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 As far as I know, the CLE civics/world geo grade 9 is the same course from alpha omega lifepacs but probably not with the color format. Several of CLE's non sunrise editions were some CLE version of lifepacs. Here's link to that course (it's the same course with different covers as far as I know, instead of a "sunrise edition" from CLE which would not be "lifepacs") to see if it's secular enough or adaptable in various things. https://www.aop.com/curriculum/shop-lifepac/civics-world-geography-10-unit-set 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourisenough Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 Thanks, cbollin. Bummer! Neither the civics/geography nor the world history are secular-friendly or academically robust. Wish CLE were writing a Sunrise Edition of either course, but I suppose that is too much to hope for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3andme Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 As mentioned, those courses are still the old format. CLE does have a great course on Latin American history and geography that is very similar to the American History textbook but it's only Latin America. It's designed for 6th grade but very in-depth and would work for any middle school grade. If you're looking for something somewhat similar (work text approach) at a high school level, there is Paradigm Accelerated. They have a secular World Geography course and some other courses that might work for civics. Not quite as rigorous as CLE but would work well especially for a younger student. Holt might be an option. They package their standard World Geography text for homeschool use. Another option, although not secular, is BJU's Cultural Geography and Government textbooks. It comes with a workbook and the text is appealing and rigorous. I have a copy of the text and can check if you wish to see if it might work for a secular user. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourisenough Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 As mentioned, those courses are still the old format. CLE does have a great course on Latin American history and geography that is very similar to the American History textbook but it's only Latin America. It's designed for 6th grade but very in-depth and would work for any middle school grade. If you're looking for something somewhat similar (work text approach) at a high school level, there is Paradigm Accelerated. They have a secular World Geography course and some other courses that might work for civics. Not quite as rigorous as CLE but would work well especially for a younger student. Holt might be an option. They package their standard World Geography text for homeschool use. Another option, although not secular, is BJU's Cultural Geography and Government textbooks. It comes with a workbook and the text is appealing and rigorous. I have a copy of the text and can check if you wish to see if it might work for a secular user. Thanks for the offer; I would appreciate it. What I'm most interested in is a one year world history that is secular-friendly and similar to CLE's Changing Frontiers. I feel like that would be perfect for this DD in 8th grade, then she'll be ready for AP level history/gov/Econ in high school. A course that is geared to 9th/10th grade is fine as she is ready for high school level work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3andme Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 For world history at the early high school level, I might suggest World History: Our Human Story. It is a somewhat condensed, single volume version of the 3 K12 Human Odyssey books. It is secular and has a very similar feel to the CLE American textbook. Unfortunately, it doesn't come with any workbooks etc. but maybe you could use it in conjunction with Oak Meadow's course which is textbook independent or pair it with something like World History Detective. Oak Meadow suggests the Glencoe text but Holt and Pearson are also options. Paradigm Accelerated does have a world history course as well. Definitely not as substantial as CLE or K12 though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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