mom31257 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 How do you review material with your student without essentially teaching them the test? I'm having ds read a textbook along with an online science program. He outlines/takes notes as he reads, but he isn't catching all the finer details that are on the quizzes and tests that go with the textbook. I feel guilty to just give him the information he needs to know, but I also feel that I'm the teacher, so I should make sure he is prepared. I guess it's a fine line. Thanks for any advice or tips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 My 8th grader takes outsourced science classes. He retakes the quizzes for those questions that he got wrong. He had a test recently and it also allows for retake for the multiple choice section while the free response question is graded by the teacher with no retakes. There is a slight penalty for wrong answers so he doesn't get 100% if he had like four wrong answers out of thirty on his first try and all correct on his second try. The only review I do with my kids is reviewing their AP test prep practice tests after they have done it by making sure they know where they went wrong or what careless errors they made or how incomplete their answers were. So they do their own review before their tests and I do the review with them after. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klmama Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I help dc review by going through the text and having dc explain back to me all of the info, paragraph by paragraph. "What does __ mean?" "Explain how __ works." "What are the three main parts of __?" "Why is__important?" "Draw a diagram illustrating the changes that occur in __." "Explain the difference between __ and __. Which would you expect to find in ___? Why?" When I know the text covers small details that are on the test, I include them in the review without drawing attention to them. Sometimes it helps, and sometimes it doesn't. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemsondana Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) How you handle this may depend on what the book tests are actually testing. Sometimes the tests in the book seem to focus on details that are easy to formulate into a multiple choice question, but aren't really that important. I have the same complaint about some of the end of course exams that I see. If you only have 50 questions to assess all that a student was supposed to have learned in freshman biology, I would not choose 'If Biuret reagent turns purple, it indicates that your sample contains a)protein' as one of the most important. :-) But, it's easier to test than 'Explain the process of protein synthesis' or 'What roles do proteins have in a cell?'. The last 2 are the questions that I ask on tests that I write, and I'm fine with asking them as homework questions because if students know those answers, they've learned what I want for them to know. For my students to correctly answer the one about Biuret months after we'd done the experiment, I'd have to tell them to learn that detail specifically. Since I don't think it's the most important thing to study for a cumulative final, I don't ask the question. :-) But, if I thought it was important, I'd have no problem with asking them to fill out a chart about molecules, testing solutions, and results as homework, and telling them to know it for the final. Edited September 20, 2017 by ClemsonDana 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daijobu Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I just found out that my dd wrote up her own test questions for AP biology for study. Another tactic is when we go for walks she would hand me a copy of her notes/outline and I would quiz her about it as we walked along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I think what you're asking is not so much how to review in general, but that you know exactly what the test contains so you're struggling to not feed him only that information and nothing else, yeah? I think the answer is that in a classroom setting, a lot of teachers do exactly that - they know what they want students to remember, they hit those points repeatedly in lectures, review, outlines, reminders, etc. In other words, I think it's okay to do that to some extent. You don't want to spoonfeed it, you do want to try and point out other things he may be missing and review the chapter material as a whole, but it's okay to be sure to point out the material on the tests. A good test will have the information that's most important. We should teach to it. I think "teach to the test" as a negative is really about the disconnect between these nebulous standardized tests that schools employ now where it's impossible to predict exactly what will be on there because there's far too much information. Or, it refers to tests that are about a narrow set of skills that are only very imperfectly measured by the test. Thus, teachers focus on test taking skills instead of real content or how to utilize skills anywhere other than on a multiple choice test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootsie Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Are the items things that he is missing things you would have picked up on or emphasized if you had not first seen the test and quizzes? When you discuss the material are you left thinking, "he didn't clearly understand this?" or are you left thinking "I know there is a question about XYZ and he hasn't mentioned that?" At the high school level I think it is important for students to start learning three things: the course content, how to pick out the important materials in a chapter or lecture, how to learn from mistakes on a quiz or exam to start studying more wisely for future quizzes and exams based upon how learning is being measured in that particular course. What happens if he misses some of these items on a quiz or test? Can you use it as a teachable moment for how to study? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyroo Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 If he is using the textbook solely as a supplemental resource for his online course, then could you just treat the quizzes and tests as additional learning aids rather than assessments? If he reads through the textbook, outlines the material well, and still misses a few quiz questions, then I would just have him reread those short sections in the textbook, jot down the additional information on his notes/outline and "redo" the missed quiz questions the next day to help cement that information. OTOH, if he is missing a lot of quiz questions, then that would seem to mean he needs to fine tune his outlining/note taking. Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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