Outlining with IEW

[crosby0511]

My oldest daughter is currently using WWS2 and my youngest daughter uses WWS1; it's going great. I love SWB's style and really get it. My middle child, a son, is dyslexic and we did not even get through all of the WWE books. He could barely write a sentence when we started IEW. He can now summarize a paragraph.

My problem is I really, really don't like IEW! I can't deny that it's working for him, perhaps not in the way I'd like, but at least he's writing something (and we're both not crying about it)!

So the question: does IEW ever teach a true outline form. When he teaches them to outline it's just numbered like so:

1.

2.

3.

etc.

 

Does IEW continue on like this forever or will it change as we progress? Do we ever learn how to outline with main and supporting points? If so, when? Which level?

 

I need some hope that this curriculum gets better!

 

Rachel

[YodaGirl]

We've done something similar to that with the theme-based books during the assignments that have them pull from multiple sources.

 

It might be something like:

I. Galileo, scientist, renaissance

1. Pioneer, scientific, experiments

2. @17, med. student, U of Pisa

 

The main point being that Galileo was an important scientist during the renaissance period. The following points would expound upon that.

 

That's an example from the Medieval History theme-based book. I think that's 3rd-5th grade level.

 

I'm not sure that's totally what you're looking for, though. Pudewa does discuss why he outlines like he does during the first TWSS video.

 

You said that you're wanting hope that the program improves. Are you concerned with the types of essays that are being taught? Is it just the way he outlines? It goes against how I learned, but as long as the writing curriculum is teaching good writing, I'm inclined to overlook it. I can always teach outlining via note-taking in other subjects. Honestly, she gets that every Sunday morning during our sermons.

 

IEW isn't my preferred method of writing. In fact, I've done my best to move to a different type of program. Yet, I keep returning to this one. My oldest, who used to HATE writing, just wrote a speech on her favorite hobby - writing. Her skills are improving, and she's enjoying it. 😊

[kolamum]

I believe outlining is covered in the Continuation Courses.. I don't know what level you are doing, but I'm certain I saw it there. I can't say "positive" because we aren't on a continuation course at this stage. :)

[Momto6inIN]

My DD is in the level B continuation course and so far it's still the basic numbered outline form, not the formal outline I learned back in the day and that SWB teaches.

 

It bugged me at the beginning too but Andrew Pudewa explains in the TWSS that outlining's only function is to guide the writer into a clearly focused paragraph/composition, so if it does that then the form doesn't really matter. As I've seen my DC's writing improve and be more organized despite not using the "correct" outline form, I think he's right. :)

 

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Edited because I type on my phone with fat fingers

Edited September 15, 2017 by Momto5inIN

[crosby0511]

Thank you all so much! I think my problem is that my daughter is a wonderful writer and has done so well with the WWS books that I really compare everything to it! I probably need to just get over that. After all, if he could do that we would be doing it! I just need to remind myself that we're using something different because he learns differently. 

 

Momto5inIN it's encouraging to know that you're daughter's writing improved without worrying about the outlining.

 

YodaGirl, I like how you're teaching it with other subjects. It's something for me to keep in mind for later.

 

Thanks for your help and encouragement- we'll just keep pushing forward!

[Heathermomster]

My DS used 3 of IEW's thematic books and Elegant Essay. I still taught him topical and full sentence outlining. DS uses KWOs to write and the standard outlines for summarization of info and study for history and science.

Edited September 15, 2017 by Heathermomster