ereks mom Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Would you say that CLE Math 600-800 covers mostly the same topics at approximately the same depth as Saxon Math Courses 1-3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneStepAtATime Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Have you used either system before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ereks mom Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 No, I've used BJU and TT, but never used CLE or Saxon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OneStepAtATime Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I wish someone could help. I have used CLE and Saxon but not Saxon at that level. I have CLE through the 800s and will be ordering Algebra 1. Is there a question about CLE in particular I could answer? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katilac Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Maybe you can compare scope & sequence and/or table of contents? At a glance, I'd guess that Saxon covers more topics and goes into more depth, simply because I see a fair number of very basic and/or biblical topics in CLE. I also know that my physicist b-i-l found Saxon to be much more thorough than several other math texts, but CLE was not one that he compared for me. The CLE Scope & Sequence: https://www.clp.org/documents/5748/original/2015-2016_Elementary_Scope_and_Sequence.pdf TG for CLE 801, you can see the pretest: https://www.clp.org/documents/2705/original/Math_801-805_TG.pdf I can't find a readiness test for their algebra program, which is listed as a "preliminary edition." The Saxon math table of contents, you can also see the books: Saxon Math 1: http://www.chisagolakes.k12.mn.us/SAXON/SAXONMS/Student%20eBook%20Course%201.pdf Saxon Math 2: http://www.chisagolakes.k12.mn.us/SAXON/SAXONMS/Student%20eBook%20Course%202.pdf Saxon Math 3: http://www.chisagolakes.k12.mn.us/SAXON/SAXONMS/Student%20eBook%20Course%203.pdf Saxon readiness test for Algebra 1: http://www.hmhco.com/~/media/sites/home/education/global/pdf/placement/mathematics/k-12/saxon-math-homeschool/shs_a1_placement.pdf?la=en 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ereks mom Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 I wish someone could help. I have used CLE and Saxon but not Saxon at that level. I have CLE through the 800s and will be ordering Algebra 1. Is there a question about CLE in particular I could answer? Thanks. I've looked at the CLE sample pages in order to compare CLE with TT, which I've used most recently. It appears that CLE is 1-2 years more advanced than TT in the earlier years, but the Algebra courses seems to be about the same level of rigor. I've decided to go with CLE for next year, even though my students (coming from TT) will likely have to step down a couple of levels. CLE looks more "gentle" in its approach than Saxon, and I think that will be good for my students. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ereks mom Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 Maybe you can compare scope & sequence and/or table of contents? At a glance, I'd guess that Saxon covers more topics and goes into more depth, simply because I see a fair number of very basic and/or biblical topics in CLE. I also know that my physicist b-i-l found Saxon to be much more thorough than several other math texts, but CLE was not one that he compared for me. The CLE Scope & Sequence: https://www.clp.org/documents/5748/original/2015-2016_Elementary_Scope_and_Sequence.pdf TG for CLE 801, you can see the pretest: https://www.clp.org/documents/2705/original/Math_801-805_TG.pdf I can't find a readiness test for their algebra program, which is listed as a "preliminary edition." The Saxon math table of contents, you can also see the books: Saxon Math 1: http://www.chisagolakes.k12.mn.us/SAXON/SAXONMS/Student%20eBook%20Course%201.pdf Saxon Math 2: http://www.chisagolakes.k12.mn.us/SAXON/SAXONMS/Student%20eBook%20Course%202.pdf Saxon Math 3: http://www.chisagolakes.k12.mn.us/SAXON/SAXONMS/Student%20eBook%20Course%203.pdf Saxon readiness test for Algebra 1: http://www.hmhco.com/~/media/sites/home/education/global/pdf/placement/mathematics/k-12/saxon-math-homeschool/shs_a1_placement.pdf?la Very helpful! Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneStepAtATime Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) Maybe you can compare scope & sequence and/or table of contents? At a glance, I'd guess that Saxon covers more topics and goes into more depth, simply because I see a fair number of very basic and/or biblical topics in CLE. I also know that my physicist b-i-l found Saxon to be much more thorough than several other math texts, but CLE was not one that he compared for me. The CLE Scope & Sequence: https://www.clp.org/documents/5748/original/2015-2016_Elementary_Scope_and_Sequence.pdf TG for CLE 801, you can see the pretest: https://www.clp.org/documents/2705/original/Math_801-805_TG.pdf I can't find a readiness test for their algebra program, which is listed as a "preliminary edition." The Saxon math table of contents, you can also see the books: Saxon Math 1: http://www.chisagolakes.k12.mn.us/SAXON/SAXONMS/Student%20eBook%20Course%201.pdf Saxon Math 2: http://www.chisagolakes.k12.mn.us/SAXON/SAXONMS/Student%20eBook%20Course%202.pdf Saxon Math 3: http://www.chisagolakes.k12.mn.us/SAXON/SAXONMS/Student%20eBook%20Course%203.pdf Saxon readiness test for Algebra 1: http://www.hmhco.com/~/media/sites/home/education/global/pdf/placement/mathematics/k-12/saxon-math-homeschool/shs_a1_placement.pdf?la=en Those are great links. For clarification, the biblical topics in CLE are mainly a completely separate subject all by itself, although there are a few (limited) biblical references in the math work books (easy to simply skip over if necessary and it is not the primary focus of their math program by any stretch). The listed scope and sequence you linked is for all CLE subjects, not just math. I wanted to clarify in case OP thought that was what was covered in math. Scroll down to the detailed area of the math section (past bible, language arts, reading) and it will show that CLE math covers quite a significant number of topics and introduces them at fairly early stages in many instances, including geometry and algebra concepts introduces in elementary. I think both Saxon and CLE have their merits for elementary. I do find the CLE presentation easier to deal with but many find the opposite is true. I have not compared CLE to Saxon for the middle grades but I do know people who have used both very successfully and found them great systems. Some kids do better with one than the other but it depends on the kid and the teacher as to what might be the best fit. I found CLE worked better for our family so we did not use Saxon in middle grades. The reason the CLE Algebra I program is listed as preliminary is because they are eventually converting it to a text book format in full color instead of the light unit format they currently use. The light unit Algebra I is a full course. They are just altering the format and have not finished doing so. Edited July 20, 2017 by OneStepAtATime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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