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I read Dr. Greenspan's Engaging Autism years ago but as I recall it was more theoretical and didn't really get into the specifics. I'm looking for something that's similar to the Relationship Development Intervention series by Steven Gutstein in that it lays out suggested activities. There is Floortime Strategies to Promote Development in Children and Teens by Andrea Davis and Lahela Isaacson but I can't tell from the samples on Amazon if it's detailed enough. I could request it through ILL but it's currently checked out.

 

 

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Teaching Your Child with Love and Skill by Joyce Show is the book I have read that had a lot of really practical Floortime stuff in it.

 

But it is not a manual, it is a parent who talks about how she combines different methods and uses the best things from each for her son.

 

And she lived in California where she had access to a lot of trainings and specialists, so she had a lot of opportunities.

 

Iirc her son had a Floortime consultant and she included a lot of great ideas in her book.

 

So I think it is a great book, but it is not primarily about Floortime, but I remember it as having more detail (and more *accessible* detail) than anything else I have ever seen.

 

And I read Engaging Autism twice and it was just not practically accessible to me as far as feeling like "I got an idea and I know how to implement it." But I did feel like that with the Joyce Show book.

 

I am interested to see other recommendations people have. This is all I have got ;)

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Well, not exactly Floortime, but Solomon's Autism, the Potential Within would be good. . . and practical. I have read some excerpts and did a training webinar based on one of the chapters. Waiting on the book. And I am sure there are others that are in the same vein that would be good too. Looking forward to others' suggestions.

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That looks like a good book.

 

From a parent with an 8-year-old looking at the Amazon blurb.... I looked at and thought:  "from self-isolation to warmly connected" ----- yes!!!!! ----- "from nonverbal to constantly talking" ----- not so much.  But he is still talking more and more and expressing himself more clearly, over time. 

 

I am going to get a Kindle sample and check it out :)

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I tried self taught floortime stuff, then did RDI with a consultant for years.

 

I really like Hanen materials. They are fantastic--very similar to what we did with our RDI consultants early on and relational and play centered like floortime--with a practical, "do this" type presentation. I felt they were great materials and wish I had found them when my guy was younger.

http://www.hanen.org/Shop.aspx

 

 

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I'd also recommend googling RDI and getting ideas from bloggers - for example Jacob's Journey was a blog which had good ideas. I used to be an RDI consultant and often got great ideas for activities from other people doing RDI. There used to be some good videos on youtube too. 

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I attended a training session for floortime. Also, I recall ordering training videos on the DIR Floortime which were so helpful! It is fascinating to watch Mr. Greenspan work with kids. Looks like they have moved what I ordered into that Floortime Manual link Marie provided. I also agree with the Hanen manual suggestion. That was the first intervention we tried with ds and that training made it very easy to see how to dovetail that with Floortime. I love the Learning Tree book and recommend it often, it is a great read. I don't think it is exactly what you are looking for though, but definitely one to put on the list to read. I think the Floortime Manual which appears similar to what they offered back when I was first learning would give you the best run down.

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By the time I was ready to order the Hanen books they were pretty much past their usefulness for us. They are geared towards younger kids but can be useful from a professional standpoint to Crimson Wife.

While I certainly can see why you would say this, I did want to point out that there are many ideas in both the More Than Words program and the Talkability Program that I still use today in my interactions with ds. I guess they are just ingrained in how I use language with ds. Perhaps how to vary the ideas to an older child wouldn't always be apparent to someone who hasn't used it before, but the are still very valid long term strategies that meet the child where they are at and allow for continued langue development and growth.

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I only had a very small sample from which to base my decision on when I did (talking about the Hanen manuals), which was why I said, pretty much past. From the ToC I could see there were parts that could have been useful but the parts that did did not justify the cost at that point. I don't sell my resources to make costs back, which is why I have to factor in everything before hitting the order button. I do wish I had ordered sooner however, when my 8 yr old was around 4. I did use other resources (not autism specific) that worked well for us so I don't really feel that we missed out. And I still use a lot of what I learned from the resources I had as well. It's what I have noticed though. Some books I just click with the mentality of the authors, others I don't. If the mentality of the author follows along the lines of my own way of thinking, things just fall into place. It still doesn't mean that the other resources weren't useful, though.

Oh sorry, I wasn't really commenting on their appropriateness for your family, just wanted to mention that point for anyone else reading that may just dismiss them as being too young, that is all.

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I just ordered the printed version of *The Floortime Manual*. After I have had time to go over it (when it arrives) I will decide whether to go with the 30 or 90 day registration. Anyway, I can post my thoughts after it arrives if anyone is interested :)

 

I ordered this, thanks for the link!

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Would you believe my manual has yet to arrive? It's been a month. It's time I contacted them. Even my orders from Bookdepository in the UK don't take this long!

 

They told me on Jun 6th that they would be mailing the manual to me "in a few weeks".

 

The seminar I did last week with Dr. Patrick Rydell, the co-author of SCERTS, was excellent BTW. He has a ton of free videos up on Vimeo. I can't get the link to paste correctly but if you go to Vimeo and search "Patrick Rydell", you can find them.

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They told me on Jun 6th that they would be mailing the manual to me "in a few weeks".

 

The seminar I did last week with Dr. Patrick Rydell, the co-author of SCERTS, was excellent BTW. He has a ton of free videos up on Vimeo. I can't get the link to paste correctly but if you go to Vimeo and search "Patrick Rydell", you can find them.

 

You're the woman!! :D

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Anyone thinking he kinda looks like Benedict Cumberbatch?

Just in this shot, not all of them. Because women watching autism videos can think about something else once in a while.  :D

Watch Early Childhood - Behavior - LSP #4 Level of Flexibility with Objects, Activities & People Online | Vimeo On Demand on Vimeo

 

Patrick J. Rydell’s Videos on Vimeo

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For anyone still waiting on the Floortime manual, I just got a response that they're at the printers and will supposedly be mailed out to pre-order customers the end of next week. There's going to be a free Q&A webinar some time soon but the date/time are still TBD.

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So I *FINALLY* got the Floortime Manual book, and I have to say that I am rather disappointed. It is only 100 pages at 6"x9". Compared with 219 pages at  7"x9.5" for GiggleTime: Establishing the Social Connection by Susan Aud Sonders, 416 pages at 6.25"x9.25" for Engaging Autism by Dr. Stanley Greenspan, and 592 pages at 6"x9" for Autism: The Potential Within by Dr. Richard Solomon.

 

I'm only 32 pages into it so I want to reserve judgment until I finish it, but I have to say that I think it is very overpriced for how brief it is. I spent something like $35-40 to buy it compared with approximately the same price for Rick Solomon's book that is almost 6 times as long. Giggle Time is $20 new and I paid <$10 including shipping for a good quality used copy.

 

One thing I do like about it is that it has suggested activities separated by sensory avoiders vs. sensory seekers. I haven't seen that in other books I've read on developmental approaches to autism intervention. It's common sense, however, since the kinds of things that help my sensory seeking child would likely be very overwhelming to a sensory avoider.

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Thanks for the comparison! I read Engaging Autism years ago and found it didn't seem like I could apply it.

 

But I got the Solomon book about a year ago, and re-read it recently ---- I think it is a great book. It's definitely in my top 5 autism books -- maybe top 3. It has a lot of detail and a lot of ideas.

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What was the order of publication? Sometimes you've got one book that is a theoretical exposition and the next that is more application. So if you've already been to a workshop or otherwise gotten the jist, then the conceptual book is kind of old hat and not where you are. I got Engaging Autism from the library and it was pretty much in the vein of what we had been doing. There was a little bit interesting and the rest we were moving beyond. 

 

I think that's always the challenge, that this is a long adventure, not a 3 year fix-it job.

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