rachaeloren Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 In TWTM, Susan Bauer talks about making sure your Latin program is parts to whole. The Latin for Children curriculum from Classical Academic Press has advertised on their website that they are "The Well Trained Mind" recommended, but I don't see Latin for Children as a Latin recommendation in TWTM book. Does anyone know if Latin for Children is parts to whole teaching? Also, Classical Academic Press says Latin for Children Primer A, 4th grade. Do you think this program will be too frustrating for your average 3rd grader? Thanks! Rachael Oren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormaElle Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 LFC is recommended in TWTM. Definitely in the fourth edition, don't remember about the third. I'm about 1/4 into the first book with my fifth grader, so I don't have much experience with it. I think it's easier to have some grasp on grammar concepts before beginning, so I think fourth grade is the earliest I would start LFC, and I do think fifth grade has been a good starting point for my child. I would only do it in third with a kid who had a very strong understanding of grammar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucy the Valiant Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 It is parts to whole. I have a 5th grader in LfC B, and the pace was a little challenging for him, so we are slowing it down and taking 2 years (5th and 6th) to complete LfC B. He did do A in 4th grade just fine. My olders have done a slightly-modified (slower) pacing for LfC C as well - I'd rather they take more time and learn it well than to go faster with shallower understanding (not that those are the only 2 options, of course). We *LOVE* Classical Academic Press! Seriously, I don't work for them, but we have had consistently good experiences with them. (Heads up in LfC B, there's a *MONSTER* year-end review that took us at least 2 weeks! Hahaha! If I'd seen that bad boy coming, I'd have prepped them for it a bit.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoutTN Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Yes, LfC is parts-to-whole. Anything that begins primarily with learning grammar and vocab is that. Things that emphasize reading earlier and teach grammar as you go, in context, are whole-to-parts. You can find exhaustive (exhausting? ;) ) threads on Latin curricula here if you search for a bit! Some students do better with parts-to-whole and others with the opposite. LfC A was fine for my first fourth grader and my second fourth grader will get it next year. I had one fly through it in about 4 months, but the next one will not do that. Be prepared to adapt for your particular student. We use Quizlet for vocab review and I add some translation practice because it is fun and the reading keeps my kids interested. hth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mschickie Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 We used LFC A when dd was in 3rd. It was a great program. The only thing we found challenging were some of the activities in the Activities Book. Some of the activities were pretty tricky but since they were just for reinforcement I just let her skip the ones she had a hard time with or we would do them together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegeyser Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I just wanted to add that there is a computer-based application on Thinker's Cap Academy. I think it makes the program a little more doable. Also, I would never recommend it for a 3rd grader. Start out in Song School Latin 1 & 2 if you want to intro Latin then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal_Bear Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 There are lots of extra options for LFC. You have the Thinkers Cap academy if you want an online version instead of the books/DVD version. There's Headventureland which is all kinds of awesome for practice for $20 for the year. We actually are signing up for the Schole Academy class for LFC A. For us, I'm willing to spring for certain online courses. Foreign language is one of those things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cintinative Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 We used LFC A when dd was in 3rd. It was a great program. The only thing we found challenging were some of the activities in the Activities Book. Some of the activities were pretty tricky but since they were just for reinforcement I just let her skip the ones she had a hard time with or we would do them together. We are currently working through one of the monster word searches from LfCA's Activity Book. I definitely question the value of some of the Activity book (like the three or four page crossword puzzles. Seriously???). Overall we like the program (less the activity book sometimes) and I am glad we did it in these grades and not earlier (4th and 5th). My 4th grader could not have managed it earlier. My 5th grader could possibly have done it last year but I wanted to keep them together. I agree with the prior poster about having a decent amount of grammar done before starting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoutTN Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 We tried Headventureland but my kids gravitate to the least helpful, most time wasting parts, so we punted that for Quizlet. No Activity Book for us either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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