Anne in CA Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Tomorrow I get to have a fun talk with dd AGAIN about how you really do not have privacy online no matter how many safeguards you think you have put up. GRRR. Also, I don't know why anyone would think they have any privacy anymore. Privacy is an illusion!!! DD went to a friend's birthday party last night and they took a bunch of pics they shouldn't and put them on Instagram in accounts they think are secret. Not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Tomorrow I get to have a fun talk with dd AGAIN about how you really do not have privacy online no matter how many safeguards you think you have put up. GRRR. Also, I don't know why anyone would think they have any privacy anymore. Privacy is an illusion!!! DD went to a friend's birthday party last night and they took a bunch of pics they shouldn't and put them on Instagram in accounts they think are secret. Not so much. Who were they posting to? Sorry I know these teens can get themselves in such trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrissiK Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 "If I can't see you, then you must not be there!" I think it's an easy trap to fall into, especially for kids who are inexperienced. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne in CA Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 They were just posting to each other, but dd left her instagram up on my phone so I saw, and I know if I can other people can too. One of those girls took a bunch of really naughty pics and her dad would be unglued. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluegoat Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I wonder sometimes if the issue is more that they don't really care about privacy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephanieZ Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I respectfully suggest that you inform all the parents . . . Parents really often just don't know . . . and I think this sort of thing is one of those "it takes a village" situations, in which everyone, especially those kids, would be better off if all the parents shared data so you can help guide the kids into safer behaviors. BTDT, kids are idiots. (((hugs))) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I wonder sometimes if the issue is more that they don't really care about privacy.I think they didn't realise how many strangers on the internet could see their photos and postings if privacy settings weren't set correctly. Even then there is data breach. My kids were amazed at what can be seen by strangers on Facebook and Instagram. I respectfully suggest that you inform all the parents . . Parents really often just don't know . . . and I think this sort of thing is one of those "it takes a village" situations, in which everyone, especially those kids, would be better off if all the parents shared data so you can help guide the kids into safer behaviors. (((hugs))) I agree. Especially with tagging and face recognition software improving faster than ever, it is harder to stay private on social media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz CA Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) Let me just add that you should tell your dd that even if Instagram / FB and whatever have some privacy settings, most semi-literate computer geeks can break into an account inside of one minute. It's therefore best to operate by the rule: Don't post anything that you would not be hanging on a public bulletin board in your hometown. Edited February 24, 2017 by Liz CA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne in CA Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 I am considering telling the parents, but it is complicated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Also make sure that "naughty pics" could be considered child pornography and the girls can be prosecuted. And if you want, I posted a seminar my DH did on online privacy a week ago...if you search for online privacy it should come up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmseB Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 IME, adults don't really get it either. They may not post illicit pictures, but a lot of people way overshare online. Probably myself included at one time or another. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janeway Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 They were just posting to each other, but dd left her instagram up on my phone so I saw, and I know if I can other people can too. One of those girls took a bunch of really naughty pics and her dad would be unglued. You need to screen shot and send to her dad. He has the right to know. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I respectfully suggest that you inform all the parents . . . Parents really often just don't know . . . and I think this sort of thing is one of those "it takes a village" situations, in which everyone, especially those kids, would be better off if all the parents shared data so you can help guide the kids into safer behaviors. BTDT, kids are idiots. (((hugs))) Absolutely. All parents should be informed. And my kid would lose her IG account and phone for a while. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 You need to screen shot and send to her dad. He has the right to know. My nieces posted a vulgar post and I screen shot it and sent to my sister who I knew was already asleep. The next a.m at 6 she texted me.....nice, so proud. :/ girls lost their phone for a while. And our step sister saw it and told our dad.....my sister was so embarrassed. This stuff happens a lot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clementine Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) You need to screen shot and send to her dad. He has the right to know. I don't think having it on her phone & sending it her dad is a good idea? Only because if it's vulgar, then they could both be in trouble for distributing or having sexual pictures of children on their devices? Someone here might have more info about whether this could get them in trouble? edited to add - I posted at the same time as kand. Edited February 25, 2017 by clementine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garga Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 People need to be careful with pictures. I have a friend who lives in Brooklyn, NY. She posted a picture of her cat sitting in the 2nd story window. Outside of the window was the street name sign. So, I looked up Brooklyn, NY and the street name and used Google to find her street and her building. I could see the other buildings outside of it, the trees lining the street, her building, her window. Anyone online could do the same, so she may as well have posted her address for us all to see. And then another friend did the same thing: first day of school, kids standing outside at her corner house so the street signs had both street names; a crossroads. Again, I could find her house on Google--pictures of it, the car in the driveway, etc. I'm suuuuper careful now about what is in the background of pictures that I post online if I don't want strangers knowing where I live. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 People need to be careful with pictures. I have a friend who lives in Brooklyn, NY. She posted a picture of her cat sitting in the 2nd story window. Outside of the window was the street name sign. So, I looked up Brooklyn, NY and the street name and used Google to find her street and her building. I could see the other buildings outside of it, the trees lining the street, her building, her window. Anyone online could do the same, so she may as well have posted her address for us all to see. And then another friend did the same thing: first day of school, kids standing outside at her corner house so the street signs had both street names; a crossroads. Again, I could find her house on Google--pictures of it, the car in the driveway, etc. I'm suuuuper careful now about what is in the background of pictures that I post online if I don't want strangers knowing where I live. Ok, honest question. What harm is there in knowing someone's address? All our city property records are online; Google my last name and you can see what property I own in about 5 seconds. It doesn't concern me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Ok, honest question. What harm is there in knowing someone's address? All our city property records are online; Google my last name and you can see what property I own in about 5 seconds. It doesn't concern me. This is all easily available online, as are political donations and the like. That's not really considered sensitive information from an online security standpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garga Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Ok, honest question. What harm is there in knowing someone's address? All our city property records are online; Google my last name and you can see what property I own in about 5 seconds. It doesn't concern me. I was thinking more of young teens posting ways for anyone who is viewing their picture to find them. You hear stories of people pretending to be teens online but really they're adults looking for victims. I wasn't thinking of moms posting on Facebook as much as young teens thinking they're anonymous online and no one knows their name or address, so they're safe. But then they post pictures with street signs and now anyone can find them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 They were just posting to each other, but dd left her instagram up on my phone so I saw, and I know if I can other people can too. One of those girls took a bunch of really naughty pics and her dad would be unglued. Did you screen shot it, so she will know you have it and now have the ability to share it at will? (Not that you would, but that you could.) One of mine blocked me on his twitter account years ago. So I couldn't access him through my own twitter account, right? Well, all I had to do was sign out of twitter, go to my web browser and enter his twitter handle in a google search - something anyone could do - and I could see every tweet. He was totally baffled that when I would randomly mention something he'd tweeted. I never did tell him how I did it. He was so focused on the tree of twitter that he missed the forest of the greater World Wide Web. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Let me just add that you should tell your dd that even if Instagram / FB and whatever have some privacy settings, most semi-literate computer geeks can break into an account inside of one minute. It's therefore best to operate by the rule: Don't post anything that you would not be hanging on a public bulletin board in your hometown. Or that you would attach to a job application Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne in CA Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 Oh I screen shotted some of it, and I intend to talk to dd tomorrow. We just got done with basketball tonight and I need her to understand how serious this stuff is. She doesn't have any really bad pics (that I could find) but two of her friends do and it's not okay. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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