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But I don't think I'm the only one with this problem.

I cannot make decisions regarding what to make for dinner and the whole thing stresses me out to hell.

At least I got out of it today.  DS's birthday is tomorrow and so tonight we are going out for his birthday dinner.

 

I'd just make nothing and that would all be fine and dandy.  Everyone would survive.  But I have company (sort of).  My dad.  So I feel compelled.  But dab nabbit. 

 

 

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I'm right there with you! I've been a wife for more than 35 years and I am tired of choosing dinner.  The balancing act of picking foods most of my people will like, making it healthy but not too healthy (or that will negate the 'everyone likes'), keeping it on a budget and reasonably easy prep so I'm not spending too long in the kitchen.  It's just annoying.  Thankfully my kids are grown and I no longer strive to balance it ALL.  But I'm still sick of dinner planning and execution. 

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I'm right there with you! I've been a wife for more than 35 years and I am tired of choosing dinner.  The balancing act of picking foods most of my people will like, making it healthy but not too healthy (or that will negate the 'everyone likes'), keeping it on a budget and reasonably easy prep so I'm not spending too long in the kitchen.  It's just annoying.  Thankfully my kids are grown and I no longer strive to balance it ALL.  But I'm still sick of dinner planning and execution. 

 

some days I wish there was a dinner pill

 

here everyone...take your pill...

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In direct contrast to my optimist/positive outlook on life that I talk about in the other thread, THIS is my kryptonite.

 

I LOATHE being the creator of meals. Thinking, planning, deciding, shopping, cooking, cleaning. All of it. But, it all starts at the thinking of what to make that everyone will eat.

 

There is no silver lining to be found in this thankless job.

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In direct contrast to my optimist/positive outlook on life that I talk about in the other thread, THIS is my kryptonite.

 

I LOATHE being the creator of meals. Thinking, planning, deciding, shopping, cooking, cleaning. All of it. But, it all starts at the thinking of what to make that everyone will eat.

 

There is no silver lining to be found in this thankless job.

 

And I don't even mind cooking!  In fact most of the time I like it.  But this is the part I don't like. 

 

I sometimes feel resentful that I have to do this part on my own all the time.  And when I ask for suggestions they are pancakes or fast food take out.  Whut?!  Every.single..time.. thanks...thanks a lot.... :glare:

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And I don't even mind cooking! In fact most of the time I like it. But this is the part I don't like.

 

I sometimes feel resentful that I have to do this part on my own all the time. And when I ask for suggestions they are pancakes or fast food take out. Whut?! Every.single..time.. thanks...thanks a lot.... :glare:

Yeah, the cooking is the easiest part. It's the before and after, but because cooking is stuck in the middle of the deciding and dishes, it gets the blame for all things awful. It's a package deal.

 

I really don't mind the act of cooking much at all. But, if I didn't have to cook, there'd be nothing to decide and no dishes to do, so I sum it up with "I hate cooking". :)

 

Sparkly, make your millions - design us that pill!!

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Yeah.  I used to love to cook.  Now, I hate it because of all the planning required to make everyone as happy as possible as often as possible.  

 

When we were first together, my husband and I shopped and cooked together frequently.   That went out the window when the kids arrived and other things changed.  For a while when they were little I still enjoyed cooking, but as the years went on... ugh.  I do still like to cook for company - well, appetizers and desserts, main courses not so much - and I like to bake, but we're all trying to eat better (lower carb in general, lower sugar specifically) so it's not as much fun.

 

And when I ask for suggestions, my husband wants things we could acquire/afford in that old life.  Lamb, for one thing.  Yeah sorry honey, there's no time or budget for osso bucco anymore.  Drop that fantasy, OK?   Of course I'm no happier when he asks for sloppy joe's, which no one else likes.  :-)   Poor guy; he can't do anything right.  :-)

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Yeah.  I used to love to cook.  Now, I hate it because of all the planning required to make everyone as happy as possible as often as possible.  

 

When we were first together, my husband and I shopped and cooked together frequently.   That went out the window when the kids arrived and other things changed.  For a while when they were little I still enjoyed cooking, but as the years went on... ugh.  I do still like to cook for company - well, appetizers and desserts, main courses not so much - and I like to bake, but we're all trying to eat better (lower carb in general, lower sugar specifically) so it's not as much fun.

 

And when I ask for suggestions, my husband wants things we could acquire/afford in that old life.  Lamb, for one thing.  Yeah sorry honey, there's no time or budget for osso bucco anymore.  Drop that fantasy, OK?   Of course I'm no happier when he asks for sloppy joe's, which no one else likes.  :-)   Poor guy; he can't do anything right.  :-)

 

Speaking of watching carbs.  I was excited about e-meals having a low crab option.  The meals aren't all that low carb though.  Which I can usually "low carb" most stuff somehow.  BUT then it also contains a lot of ingredients we all hate here.  So it just doesn't work out. 

 

Two meals this week on the menu contain a lot of beans.  In what universe are beans low carb?  Now granted between pasta or beans, I'd eat beans, but...they aren't THAT low carb.  So then I end up having to eat much smaller portions of things . Which stinks.  I don't want to be hungry after I eat a meal. 

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I hate it too. We are also limited by food allergies (dairy, egg, peanut and tree nuts). I can't even just slap together grilled cheese! Or order pizza without still having to prepare food for my allergy kid. We are in a total dinner rut!

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Speaking of watching carbs.  I was excited about e-meals having a low crab option.  The meals aren't all that low carb though.  Which I can usually "low carb" most stuff somehow.  BUT then it also contains a lot of ingredients we all hate here.  So it just doesn't work out. 

 

 

Did you try the eMeals Paleo plan? that may be more to your liking. OR, since I have a slew of their menus already, PM me and tell me what foods you won't eat, and I'll share with you the appropriate menus. B-)

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I hate cooking so we've developed a routine. We bring in food twice a week. I cook 3 nights and DH cooks on the weekends. We make very simple meals. Nothing complicated at all. We also pretty much eat the same things every week, like pork chops every Sunday night. I have few decisions to make because of that. Tonight is Subway sandwiches. Yay!

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You sing the song of my people...

 

For me, the answer is dinner "formulas," so I don't have to think about it...homemade quiche, chili, spaghetti, meatloaf, salmon, lasagna, vegetable soup, roasted vegetables.

 

If I'm extra lazy, I dump eight chicken breasts in the crock pot and pour two jars of tikka massala over them. Rice, veggies, done.

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You sing the song of my people...

 

For me, the answer is dinner "formulas," so I don't have to think about it...homemade quiche, chili, spaghetti, meatloaf, salmon, lasagna, vegetable soup, roasted vegetables.

 

If I'm extra lazy, I dump eight chicken breasts in the crock pot and pour two jars of tikka massala over them. Rice, veggies, done.

 

It gets harder for me with low carb.  Not many convenience foods.

 

Roast chicken and veg is my go to easy thing.  But ya know 2x a week or more of that and I'm tired of it.

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I hate cooking so we've developed a routine. We bring in food twice a week. I cook 3 nights and DH cooks on the weekends. We make very simple meals. Nothing complicated at all. We also pretty much eat the same things every week, like pork chops every Sunday night. I have few decisions to make because of that. Tonight is Subway sandwiches. Yay!

 

My husband won't cook.  That would be nice if he would.  Hell even once a month.  Nope.

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Stupid problem or not, I have it, too. I honestly am near tears many evenings when I realize I have to figure out what we're going to eat. My DD8 is incredibly "picky" (sensory issues) so she's very difficult to feed. My 4yo just wants to be stubborn so if DD8 is getting a substitute then she wants that, too. So we're left either eating the simple bland things my 8yo will eat over and over, or making a good meal just for the two of us and throwing together something else for the kids.

 

I so wish she was one of those kids to whom you could just say "eat it or go hungry", but she would give us a preview of the exorcist and still not eat, so that doesn't fly. 

 

Sigh. No idea what we're having tonight. And it's only 2:15 here so I still have time to plan, but instead I will ignore the issue until the last minute, only making it more difficult. 

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Tonight was going to be easy: meatloaf and tortellini soup.  Until I remembered at 3:15 that I forgot to thaw the meat.  Whoops!  I'm going to try to thaw it in the microwave, but then it inevitably gets partially cooked.  But I just don't care anymore.  I've gotten so tired of being the one responsible for all our meals.  We'll just eat half overcooked meatloaf.  

 

There are soooo many pieces to preparing meals:  picking them, figuring out the ingredients, buying the ingredients, storing the ingredients, remembering to thaw the ingredients (!), preparing the ingredients, cleaning up afterwards.  

 

The other day, I knew we were going to eat all leftovers. I happily ate an orange, some chicken salad on a cracker, and a couple of shrimp for my meal.  I don't mind eating odds and ends like that, but the rest of the family wants a real meal.  When the kids are gone, it'll be oranges and crackers for every meal.   :)

 

 

 

ETA:  I thawed the meat in 30 second intervals on 50% power.  Each time, I scraped off any bits that were thawed.  Doing it that way, it only took about 5 rounds of heating and none of the meat cooked!  The key was scraping thawed bits off every 30 seconds.  Dinner is saved!  For tonight.  Then another 2190 to go until the youngest is done high school and I stop cooking.

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Sounds like a fine diet to me!

 

Everyone thinks I'm joking, but no...last kid out, no more dinner cooking ever. 

 

It's a bit soon for me to say for sure, but I think I'll be the opposite. I'm so tired of the boring stuff my kid tolerates. Once she's out of the house, I can see DH and I taking it in turns to make some of the yummy looking stuff we've been eyeing but dismiss because there's no way DD will touch it. I hate going to all the trouble of a nice meal just to get "ick" "ew" "don't make me eat that" and having to make something else on the side.

 

I'm looking forward to the day I can eat adult food.

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It's a bit soon for me to say for sure, but I think I'll be the opposite. I'm so tired of the boring stuff my kid tolerates. Once she's out of the house, I can see DH and I taking it in turns to make some of the yummy looking stuff we've been eyeing but dismiss because there's no way DD will touch it. I hate going to all the trouble of a nice meal just to get "ick" "ew" "don't make me eat that" and having to make something else on the side.

 

I'm looking forward to the day I can eat adult food.

 

 

 

Wait...this is a good ideal.  I'll intersperse our orange and cracker dinners with some of the casseroles and soups and pasta dishes that my kids won't touch.  

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I have the picky kid problem, specifically my eldest who is 10. The younger ones have various dislikes but his pickiness is more extreme.

 

What is working for me right now is, before I shop I do a quick menu plan. I ask each kid for one meal suggestion. Then I put down one thing Dh likes and one I like. Then a couple of meals are left for leftovers or sale items. This seems to work. Even if they don't like the whole meal there's usually a component they like. Rice, or salad or the meat part.

 

If you ask kids for suggestions and they always say takeout you might need to be more specific in your phrasing "give me one home made meal you would like to eat this week".

 

Of course the low carb/ new diet things always complicate stuff. It takes a while to build a mental database of enough recipes you know how to make without too much thought. When you have to scratch half of them and start again it can be difficult.

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Yeah. I used to love to cook. Now, I hate it because of all the planning required to make everyone as happy as possible as often as possible.

 

When we were first together, my husband and I shopped and cooked together frequently. That went out the window when the kids arrived and other things changed. For a while when they were little I still enjoyed cooking, but as the years went on... ugh. I do still like to cook for company - well, appetizers and desserts, main courses not so much - and I like to bake, but we're all trying to eat better (lower carb in general, lower sugar specifically) so it's not as much fun.

 

And when I ask for suggestions, my husband wants things we could acquire/afford in that old life. Lamb, for one thing. Yeah sorry honey, there's no time or budget for osso bucco anymore. Drop that fantasy, OK? Of course I'm no happier when he asks for sloppy joe's, which no one else likes. :-) Poor guy; he can't do anything right. :-)

Have you ever bought like quarter of a cow from a farmer type thing? When we do that we get to enjoy the fancier cuts and the price ends up being the same as the supermarket mince. You do have to have cash up front and freezer space though.

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I have the picky kid problem, specifically my eldest who is 10. The younger ones have various dislikes but his pickiness is more extreme.

 

What is working for me right now is, before I shop I do a quick menu plan. I ask each kid for one meal suggestion. Then I put down one thing Dh likes and one I like. Then a couple of meals are left for leftovers or sale items. This seems to work. Even if they don't like the whole meal there's usually a component they like. Rice, or salad or the meat part.

 

If you ask kids for suggestions and they always say takeout you might need to be more specific in your phrasing "give me one home made meal you would like to eat this week".

 

Of course the low carb/ new diet things always complicate stuff. It takes a while to build a mental database of enough recipes you know how to make without too much thought. When you have to scratch half of them and start again it can be difficult.

 

I really need to go back to making a plan/menu.  They are no help, but if I flip out once a week trying to figure this out verses several times that would at least be an improvement.

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It's a bit soon for me to say for sure, but I think I'll be the opposite. I'm so tired of the boring stuff my kid tolerates. Once she's out of the house, I can see DH and I taking it in turns to make some of the yummy looking stuff we've been eyeing but dismiss because there's no way DD will touch it. I hate going to all the trouble of a nice meal just to get "ick" "ew" "don't make me eat that" and having to make something else on the side.

 

I'm looking forward to the day I can eat adult food.

 

With our kids grown, I've transitioned into eating things *I* like- meaning stuff that I didn't eat before because the kids would complain.  Super exotic ingredients such as red bell pepper and mushrooms. :glare:   And then ds tasted raw red bell peppers and told me how awesome they are and WHY DIDN'T I SERVE THEM ALL THESE YEARS.   And dd went to Japan to attend school and started eating things like octopus.  

 

Yeah, you guys aren't picky now but you sure were when you were kids and teens!!!

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With our kids grown, I've transitioned into eating things *I* like- meaning stuff that I didn't eat before because the kids would complain.  Super exotic ingredients such as red bell pepper and mushrooms. :glare:   And then ds tasted raw red bell peppers and told me how awesome they are and WHY DIDN'T I SERVE THEM ALL THESE YEARS.   And dd went to Japan to attend school and started eating things like octopus.  

 

Yeah, you guys aren't picky now but you sure were when you were kids and teens!!!

 

I went to a party and they served brussels sprouts. I asked what the darling little baby cabbages were and ate them with gusto. I called my mother and asked why she never fed those to us??

 

She said "YOU SPAT THEM OUT EVERY TIME." 

 

whoops. sorry mom. 

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I am with you. I hate deciding and I also hate and fail at menu planning.

One thing that has helped me is to make a list meals that I have the ingredients for or am interested in cooking or have in the freezer. So right now my list has veggie stir fry, chickpea curry, fish, and squash soup. And then the freezer section says BBQ, lentils, ground beef. It helps me to look at it early in the day and decide then if I want to make any of them instead of just staring into the cabinets in despair.

I also asked my kids to each make a list of ten foods they wanted me to make. That has been somewhat helpful. One son is a vegetarian and his list was fairly reasonable easy foods. Daughter dreamed big (shrimp, ribs, steak...). My oldest just said "I eat anything" which is pretty much true so I left it at that.

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Wait...this is a good ideal. I'll intersperse our orange and cracker dinners with some of the casseroles and soups and pasta dishes that my kids won't touch.

Cooking for just DH and I? That'd be awesome. Neither of us is picky. As long as I don't serve oysters on the half shell, DH will eat pretty much anything...seriously, he taste tested Milk Bones to see if they really do have different flavors! Neither of us will eat canned peas. That's about it. So aside from my food intolerances, everything is optional.

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Not a stupid problem at all. Dinner is the bane of my existence. Every time I find a set of dishes everyone likes, are reasonably priced, and easy to cook... Someone develops a new allergy and I need to rework the whole menu.

 

I'd make us all live off beans and rice but my husband can't eat any beans and my son is allergic to rice....

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My kids are super picky and I'm sort of picky. We have 7 meals we can eat and we eat the same meals each week:

 

Sat: Beef Stirfry

Sun: Baked Chicken

Mon: Spaghetti

 

Etc..

 

I am so tired of those dishes sometimes, but it does make planning easier. Sometimes I get the boys frozen tv dinners (they each like only one kind), and I make something different for DH and me.

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Totally agree with you! It hangs over my head all day. We have a pantry and a freezer full of food and can go to the store and buy whatever we want. But complying with all the preferences is difficult. Sometimes I wish (not really) we were pioneers and dinner was what Pa caught and we grew. That would bring on a whole different set of problems though wouldn't it.

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Same. Sigh. I went for The Big Grocery get today and when I came home at 7:38pm, what do you think my husband and sons were doing? Do you imagine they had self-sufficiently investigated the leftovers, or grilled paninis or thrown som spaghetti together? If you did, you would be wrong. They merely looked expectantly in my direction as I came through the door.

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I'm finally getting consistent with the planning and cooking part. And really consistent at using up leftovers and not wasting food.

 

I'm going to lose my mind over the amount of dirty dishes though. Last thing I want to do after dinner when I'm tired is dishes but I'm the only one here that won't cough all over them right now.

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Not a stupid problem!! This is a huge issue in my life!!

 

My kids are stupid picky. Very little meat, almost zero veggies. If it weren't for pasta we'd have lost a couple of them years ago!! Except my DS with issues who hates pasta. He just eats junk and then runs off at dinner time. DH and I eat LCHF. I hate to cook and I don't love food so I'd be happy with a green pepper and ham slices forever.

 

We did diy pizza last Friday. Two children made their own pizzas and then didn't like them. What?!?

 

I have no answers.

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My kids wanted the Safeway $5 Friday 8pc chicken deal for today's dinner.

 

With everyone gone I swear my mother lives on toasted cheese and raisins.

My DS12 can somehow survive on just milk, brie cheese and yoghurt while my in-laws were here. No cooking required :) My in-laws were utterly shocked even though they already knew he was a picky eater before visiting. He didn't talk either, he was so silent my FIL was shocked.
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Bare minimum here. I do not like cooking, sooo I do it simple. My kids can consume a spinach salad with feta on a daily basis, so I make it all the time during weekdays alternating the green salads sometimes. On the side is either baked fish (you can get those already marinated), ground beef meatballs spiced up, grilled meat or chicken. It's always a hit. Once a week we get a stir fry and all the fancy food happens on weekends, because my DH likes to cook it. Ă°Å¸Ëœâ€ 

I could live on tea, cheese, and canned sardines if I were alone. And olives.

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Bare minimum here. I do not like cooking, sooo I do it simple. My kids can consume a spinach salad with feta on a daily basis, so I make it all the time during weekdays alternating the green salads sometimes. On the side is either baked fish (you can get those already marinated), ground beef meatballs spiced up, grilled meat or chicken. It's always a hit. Once a week we get a stir fry and all the fancy food happens on weekends, because my DH likes to cook it. Ă°Å¸Ëœâ€ 

I could live on tea, cheese, and canned sardines if I were alone. And olives.

 

I wish my kids would eat stuff like that.  Although I don't like feta...plenty of other cheeses out there though.

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Whenever I see the TV commercials for those services like Blue Apron or Hello Fresh, (in which the ingredients and recipe arrive at your door), I think, "There's no reason I can't do something nice like that every day." In fact, I am a rather good cook and I like cooking and baking on the whole. I do find it very satisfying to provide and enjoy myself meals that are delicious and well - prepared, and nutritious. My family does thank me and they help clean up every night. My DS12 spontaneously said a few days ago that he thinks he's so lucky to have a mom who makes homemade food almost every night. (I was making blackberry cobbler when he said this, with blackberries picked and frozen this past summer.) so really, what do I have to complain about?

 

But it's the fact that it comes up day after day after day that gets to me. It's because it's an obligation that comes up relentlessly, so sometimes, it's not a matter of coming up with something excellant, it's just that I need to come up with something. Also, I fantasize about what it would be like to live in a city where there are open-air markets and you can bring home some cilantro or a fresh baguette for that day. Because the necessity of driving to a store, and then debating between how awesome the store is vs. how far it is vs. how expensive it is really gets me down.

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Whenever I see the TV commercials for those services like Blue Apron or Hello Fresh, (in which the ingredients and recipe arrive at your door), I think, "There's no reason I can't do something nice like that every day." In fact, I am a rather good cook and I like cooking and baking on the whole. I do find it very satisfying to provide and enjoy myself meals that are delicious and well - prepared, and nutritious. My family does thank me and they help clean up every night. My DS12 spontaneously said a few days ago that he thinks he's so lucky to have a mom who makes homemade food almost every night. (I was making blackberry cobbler when he said this, with blackberries picked and frozen this past summer.) so really, what do I have to complain about?

 

But it's the fact that it comes up day after day after day that gets to me. It's because it's an obligation that comes up relentlessly, so sometimes, it's not a matter of coming up with something excellant, it's just that I need to come up with something. Also, I fantasize about what it would be like to live in a city where there are open-air markets and you can bring home some cilantro or a fresh baguette for that day. Because the necessity of driving to a store, and then debating between how awesome the store is vs. how far it is vs. how expensive it is really gets me down.

 

Yep...on all accounts. 

 

Cost aside, those services like Blue Apron would never work out here.  I'd end up throwing half the ingredients out because a lot of what is trendy now in food we don't like (feta cheese, olives, avocados, quinoa....and then there is the fact I hate onions).  We can't eat anything too spicy. 

 

Sometimes I forget to take the meat out.  So it's frozen and there is nothing I can do about that. 

 

And my dad is here and he has special dietary restrictions that are almost opposite of what I tend to cook.  So that stresses me out.

 

I sat down last night and made a menu for the week.  I used to do that all the time.  I don't know why I stopped.  So let's see if that helps.  

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I love to cook. I hate all of the deciding, planning, shopping, prep, and cleaning that is on me. I hate things going to hell when I have to turn my back to cook. I hate the frantic rushing to get it on the table and eaten in the 15 minutes between DH getting home and leaving again for whatever activity. I hate the whining and crying and "potty!" and knocking plates to the ground and general chaos during dinner. I hate dealing with the mess alone and the whiny little kids who will come tell me they're hungry the minute I get the dishwasher loaded after cleaning up dinner. It never ends. But the actual cooking part is fun. If I'm not locked away in a ward when the kids are gone or act semi-human, I may enjoy it more.

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You're exactly right, Quill. It's the day after day that gets to me. I enjoy cooking and I even enjoy keeping my pantry, fridge, and freezer stocked. I'm proud that I can manage inventory. I work hard to make sure we have ingredients, which like you, includes freezing things from summer bounty. But it's the daily task of turning ingredients into a meal that gets to me.   I'm just tired of it. 

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Cooking for just DH and I? That'd be awesome. Neither of us is picky. As long as I don't serve oysters on the half shell, DH will eat pretty much anything...seriously, he taste tested Milk Bones to see if they really do have different flavors! Neither of us will eat canned peas. That's about it. So aside from my food intolerances, everything is optional.

And???? DO they have different flavours??
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This is actually my big problem. I hate hate hate deciding dinner. I do not even like dinner!!!! When I lived alone, it was all very light food. A salad might be tossed or fresh veggies eaten. I might boil up just a little pasta and put with a tomato sauce.

 

Now..I have to plan big meals that make everyone happy and add in meat. Yuck!

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I went to a party and they served brussels sprouts. I asked what the darling little baby cabbages were and ate them with gusto. I called my mother and asked why she never fed those to us??

 

She said "YOU SPAT THEM OUT EVERY TIME."

 

whoops. sorry mom.

Often, it's about how it's cooked. My mom always nuked brussels sprouts. They were soggy, and bitter, and blech. When I went to a friend's as an adult and had them served braised, with a little bacon and some garlic, they were delish. And it wasn't just me, my kids liked them, too.

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Often, it's about how it's cooked. My mom always nuked brussels sprouts. They were soggy, and bitter, and blech. When I went to a friend's as an adult and had them served braised, with a little bacon and some garlic, they were delish. And it wasn't just me, my kids liked them, too.

 

Oh she was a good cook. I just hated any vegetables that weren't peas, corn, or green beans. 

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This is actually my big problem. I hate hate hate deciding dinner. I do not even like dinner!!!! When I lived alone, it was all very light food. A salad might be tossed or fresh veggies eaten. I might boil up just a little pasta and put with a tomato sauce.

 

Now..I have to plan big meals that make everyone happy and add in meat. Yuck!

 

This is me.  I don't like dinner either.  I'd just have cereal or grilled cheese or something if it were just me.  When my sons are home, I have to make huge dinners and one is a vegetarian, the other two are not.  They all like fish, but it's the only thing my daughter refuses to eat.  There's so little that makes everyone happy and it's so much work, so many dishes, so much time to prepare, clean up, shop for, etc.  Blech.  I do enjoy seeing them enjoy their meals, but it gets tiring.  

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Lol, I can't remember. I'll ask him.

Gasp! But isn't that a burning question to which we all want the answer? You look at the box and think, five flavours, really? My DS likes to give the dog a bacon sandwich, so two regular ones with a bacon one in the middle. You'd be amazed how often we discuss whether there's any difference.
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