I've commented plenty on FOEW in the Rigorous Online Writing thread (which you've seen). It is tough & would be a good non-honors 9th grade class, in my opinion. Honestly, I'd love to see it geared toward (average) 9th graders or above-average 8th graders. Mrs Lange is a caring teacher who expects a LOT from her students. I think she's already lowered requirements on some of the essays vs. last year - maybe because the kids aren't keeping up with the high expectations she has (or maybe she learned last year's group thought it was too much??). It could easily be a higher grade / level class. I think FOEW should be named for what it does - teach literary analysis (including essays & literary terms). It should be "Fudamentals of Literary Analysis."
Are you willing to give an updated review of both FOEW and Honors Comp now that a couple more months have passed? And can you speak to your comment that they're both mis-named? Thanks in advance!
Here is the description of Honors Composition as posted in a previous thread:
Also known as Fundamentals of Literary Analysis, this course will trace the trajectory of the writing process from pre-writing to final revisions. As we explore the purposes of writing (with a special emphasis on exposition and persuasion), students will gain greater proficiency in the art of a well-crafted sentence and a coherent paragraph. We will use student writing samples to practice the revision process and to identify common writing blunders. Outside of class, students will read a variety of critical essays, poetry, and short stories so that they may learn to compose written responses across academic disciplines. While a basic understanding of grammatical conventions is a course pre-requisite, the class will spend time clarifying and reviewing various grammatical conventions/usage for the sake of clearer writing.
I still haven't quite figured out what Honors Composition is teaching. I'm far less impressed with Starlet Baker (than Mrs. Lange). She's a "fun" teacher, but kinda flighty. I'm sure I'm missing the forest for the trees, but she jumps around a lot on topics & what they are working on. I'm less involved with this class, though, so perhaps I'm wrong. The class doesn't seem nearly as rigorous (in terms of assignments or grading) vs. FOEW. It isn't, IMO, an "honors" class. It definitely doesn't match the description above. I would have to go back to the assignments to tell you what all they have covered so far because they are so all over the board. There is more Christian content in this class than I thought there would be. Several assignments (one out of two or three of the larger writing assignments) have asked kids to use the Bible or actually been on a Bible passage (parable). We're not secular homeschoolers although we prefer to use secular resources. It has been mildly annoying for my DD, but she also doesn't care for all the football talk (teacher included) or the teacher's voice - so lots to pick from when complaining.
The 2017-18 schedule was just released. I'm disappointed that Lange is not teaching other classes. I hope I read it correctly. I thought she was going to teach more classes. So it's Baker or Starlet for Fundamentals of Academic Writing, formerly known as Honors Composition.
DD's enrollment will all depend upon RootAnn's opinion. So speak up Ann!
I don't know what other class to recommend, but at this point, I wouldn't necessarily recommend Starlet Baker's Honors Comp (or whatever they will call it next year) for a "next step" after FOEW. We didn't have a whole lot of options for dd#1 this year that I liked. DD is writing, but I'm not sure how much she's LEARNING.
I'm not RootAnn, but I do have a child in Honors Comp after FOEW last year. According to the parent meeting as I understood it, Honors Comp is going to change names and become a supplemental class for those who need more work with the essay form after completing FOEW. Under this new guidance, I probably would not have signed my daughter up for the composition class this year.
I think someone asked if FOEW would be labeled honors at last night's meeting and the answer was no. I definitely disagree, but I suppose it doesn't matter in the junior high years anyway.
I've already put my $.02 in on this. (Not an honors 9th grade class, but a stretch for average 8th graders, YES.) There seems to be a lot of kids who are taking Great Conversations classes at WHA along with their composition classes. (Both my daughters comment that they are generally the odd-man-out when the kids in class talk about GC class content.) I suppose there is some overlap.
I was actually thinking they would add another composition class into their high school lineup. I haven't seen a link to the recording of the parent meeting & I wasn't able to attend. I'm going to try to watch it to see what else was said.
My personal take, so far: FOEW - for strong readers & writers (if you are on the young side), great teacher, lots of stretch & learning in this class. Great 9th grade class for an average reader/writer to get Literary Analysis down. Just enough scaffolding to make it do-able without dumbing it down too much. Honors Comp (or whatever they call it next year) - not very friendly for secular homeschoolers, definitely not an honors class, not really that great of a class for average (or above-average) high school writers. All IMO! Your mileage may vary.