TracieBee Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Confession: I stayed too long with Adventures in Phonics; thus, we just finished our review of Book 1/FLL and full-on completion of Books 2 & 3, cruising through the letter writing/dictionary usage/oral usage at the very end. DS is a rising 4th grader, an advanced writer/reader with a vocab (and the ability to spell it!) of a high schooler. He grasped the diagramming, lingo, rules, etc. with no problem. My questions is this: What comes next for us? WWE, I fear, would be rather basic for him--as it was for his older brother. Any recommendations on what to use next to cement the grammar skills, develop non-fiction writing skills, outlining, and the like? I've been reading through the WTM guide and value that very much; however, "here's what I've done, here's our experience" is so valuable to me. Thanks--in advance, Tracie in TN :thumbup1: Edited April 19, 2016 by TracieBee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Well, Writing With Ease (WWE 1-4), is an elementary age writing program with no grammar instruction. It is meant to be used alongside First Language lessons 1-4. FLL provides the grammar and WWE is for composition. They are used at the same time, not sequentially. From your post it seems like that is the progression you are envisioning? You say you finished FLL and don't want to move to WWE? If you are done with FLL 1-4, then you wouldn't go to WWE 1-4. Did you mean Writing with Skill (WWS)? That is the middle grades writing program. After FLL 1-4 many people move on to R&S or Hake grammar. I personally use R&S and just make it work for us. The religious part is a bit overwhelming, but I haven't found a grammar program that is as good. R&S does have composition instruction, but I don't use that. I find it quite dry and a bit... uninspired. Plus, using it means that much more OTT religious references to work around. I also use R&S spelling. We skip the Bible parts. For composition, after we finished WWE 1-4, I did move on to Writing with Skill. I went through levels 1-3 with my older boy in grades 6-8. I am using level 1 now with my 11 year old, so a second time around for me. This time, I am having my son take it through the Well Trained Mind Academy. It is their Expository Writing 1 class. It has has been a wonderful experience for him. If you are looking for a composition program that isn't Writing with Skill, you might look at MCT or Bravewriter. They both have big fans among the logic stage contingent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2_girls_mommy Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 R&S- complete grammar and writing (especially if you are doing the other WTM type writing like outlining in your history and dictation, etc.) or R&S with WWS, skipping the writing portions of R&S. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TracieBee Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 Thank you both for your replies! I should have added that I'm rather eclectic in my curriculum selection. I pick and choose what works best for us, as we all do. Thus, I'm not lock-step into only WTM stuff--though, like 2 Girls, I don't know what I would have done with out "the Book." It's an amazing resource--and we've been home-educating for 8 years now. I appreciate your suggestions and prompt replies! Tracie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upennmama Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Confession: I stayed too long with Adventures in Phonics; thus, we just finished our review of Book 1/FLL and full-on completion of Book 2, cruising through the letter writing/dictionary usage/oral usage at the very end. DS is a rising 4th grader, an advanced writer/reader with a vocab (and the ability to spell it!) of a high schooler. He grasped the diagramming, lingo, rules, etc. with no problem. My questions is this: What comes next for us? WWE, I fear, would be rather basic for him--as it was for his older brother. Any recommendations on what to use next to cement the grammar skills, develop non-fiction writing skills, outlining, and the like? I've been reading through the WTM guide and value that very much; however, "here's what I've done, here's our experience" is so valuable to me. Thanks--in advance, Tracie in TN :thumbup1: I would go to FLL4, maybe, because it does go back and review the basics before moving on to harder concepts. I would also add WWE, any level you think would work. I would probably use level 4 for a kid with that level of ability, and then in 5th you could move into WWS, which is a fabulous program, IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TracieBee Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 I would go to FLL4, maybe, because it does go back and review the basics before moving on to harder concepts. I would also add WWE, any level you think would work. I would probably use level 4 for a kid with that level of ability, and then in 5th you could move into WWS, which is a fabulous program, IMO. Great suggestion--thanks! I need to do some research on WWS, but it sounds as though it will fit the bill--coupled with FLL4. Thanks~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PentecostalMom Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Great suggestion--thanks! I need to do some research on WWS, but it sounds as though it will fit the bill--coupled with FLL4. Thanks~ If you look on the PHP site and look under samples, there is an article by SWB that outlines various tracks you can take with writing, using WTM and other publishers. If I weren't on my phone, I'd link it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TracieBee Posted April 20, 2016 Author Share Posted April 20, 2016 If you look on the PHP site and look under samples, there is an article by SWB that outlines various tracks you can take with writing, using WTM and other publishers. If I weren't on my phone, I'd link it! Great--thanks for the direction! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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