homeschoolwarrior Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Would someone explain the difference between these two? I understand that they both teach basically the same phonograms. How do they differ structurally? Does LoE Foundations take one year, and LoE Essentials take another year? I actually have RLTL, and while I like it, we hit the spelling lists, and I am floundering with explaining the rules and things. I guess maybe I need a little bit more hand holding or something, I don't know. :( Thanks for any help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I used LOE B-C with my eldest and then RLTL 2-4 (well, we're almost done with 4). I used LOE A-B with my younger (got bored of C very quickly and was already reading fluently, so we stopped) and then did RLTL 1-2 (just started 3). LOE Foundations has games and pictures and other "fun" things. RLTL cuts to the chase, so to speak. LOE Foundations typically takes at least two years to complete (if you do levels A-D). I'm not sure about Essentials, but with a young child I'd assume 1-2 years for that (more if you use the new version that has three levels of spelling lists). RLTL levels 1-4 take you through the entire Ayers list; I don't know if the Ayers list is covered with the new version of Essentials (I don't think it was with the old one). They teach pretty much the same phonograms and close to the same rules (LOE has way more reasons for a final silent e, among other extra rules). I think LOE has a little more hand holding. I, personally, think AAS does the best job of explaining the rules--better than LOE or RLTL. It's also probably the slowest pace of those three programs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco_Clark Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 They are very, very different programs- even though they both use the same method of phonics. (So do several other programs!) LOE Foundations can take 2-4 years to get through books a-d. It is spends, super hand holding, very game based, very kinetic and whole-movement. LOE Essentials is meant as a program for older children (8+) and is often used with kids even older than that, even teens, who require remediation. It takes a year to finish. But plenty of people use it at half-time with littles. It's foundations w/out the games. You can use foundations and then essentials, lots of people do. But you are repeating information (while going deeper and faster). RLTL j have not actually used. But I do own it :). And I adore ELTL. It's affordable, no-nonsense, and works...if you have a kid that can sit and learn for 15 minutes without the carrot of a game. Which I don't. Which is why I use LOE. ;) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamamindy Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I haven't used LOE, but we use RLTL with the LOE game book to shake up the learning/practice of the phonograms. This works really well for us as we like short and sweet. My girls actually LOVE it. I'm really glad I didn't spend money on anything fancier for them - lol :p 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slache Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I haven't used LOE, but we use RLTL with the LOE game book to shake up the learning/practice of the phonograms. This works really well for us as we like short and sweet. My girls actually LOVE it. I'm really glad I didn't spend money on anything fancier for them - lol :pI did not know about this. Do you use the game book with the RLTL phonograms? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamamindy Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I did not know about this. Do you use the game book with the RLTL phonograms? Thanks! yes, we do :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smarson Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 So if we did or are doing LOE, we'd skip RLTL altogether, is this correct? And perhaps move on to ELTL somewhere during C-ish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edeemarie Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 So if we did or are doing LOE, we'd skip RLTL altogether, is this correct? And perhaps move on to ELTL somewhere during C-ish? ELTL is strictly a grammar/writing program, so starting it is more dependent on your child being able to copy a short sentence than it is on how far you are with reading. For what it's worth, my 7 year old is currently in RLTL level 3 and is also doing ELTL level 1 (we just started at Christmas). I will continue to use RLTL with him until we get through level 4 since that is what he is using for reading/spelling. If you are using and enjoying LOE, there would be no reason for you to use RLTL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sylune13 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 We are using LOE and are on Foundation C now. My kiddo had real struggles learning to read and we went through two different programs (Bookshark K/Explode the Code and All About Reading) before finding this one. I have to admit with LOE, I have learned things (many things) that I didn't learn in public school or college about why things are spelled or pronounced a certain way and my six year old went from not reading at all in August of 2015 to being at a mid first grade level for everything except comprehension which is at a second grade level. I also love that it basically tells you exactly what to say and level A really starts at the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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