JadeOrchidSong Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Boys did Fallacy Detective last year and just finished Art of Argument this month. What should we use next? I want to award a logic credit to ds13 after completing another logic book. Ideas, please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMoon Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 We moved to Argument Builder from CAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeOrchidSong Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 We moved to Argument Builder from CAP. Do you like it? How different is it from AoA? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momto6inIN Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Do you like it? How different is it from AoA? Thanks! I'm not Silver Moon, but we really liked it. Lots of good discussion generating topics. It was a significant step up as far as amount of writing required and reading level of essay excerpts analyzed. We ended up doing most of the questions as discussion rather than writing and only doing a written response about once a week. And we skipped the ongoing assignments having to do with school uniforms in a debate type setting. But we only had room for a .5 credit for both AoA and AB so that worked for us as he spent about 2-2.5 hours a week in a one block period on it all year long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeOrchidSong Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 I'm not Silver Moon, but we really liked it. Lots of good discussion generating topics. It was a significant step up as far as amount of writing required and reading level of essay excerpts analyzed. We ended up doing most of the questions as discussion rather than writing and only doing a written response about once a week. And we skipped the ongoing assignments having to do with school uniforms in a debate type setting. But we only had room for a .5 credit for both AoA and AB so that worked for us as he spent about 2-2.5 hours a week in a one block period on it all year long. Thank you! It is very helpful. Do you plan to have another logic book after Argument Builder? How do you use Figuratively Speaking? Also do you like Excellence in Literature? I have been looking for some lit curriculum to use, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momto6inIN Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Thank you! It is very helpful. Do you plan to have another logic book after Argument Builder? How do you use Figuratively Speaking? Also do you like Excellence in Literature? I have been looking for some lit curriculum to use, too. We don't plan any logic after AB. If one of them wanted to take formal logic as an elective, we'd probably continue the series with Discovery of Deduction. So far we haven't had any takers. Even though they really did enjoy AoA and AB they figured that was plenty of logic for them. ;) My 8th grader uses Fig Sp. He does a chapter or so a week independently. He enjoys the creative aspects of the assignments. My goal with it is just to make sure all of our "literary terms" bases are covered before we dive into literary analysis in 9th. For that we used Windows to the World which I highly recommend. It really bumped my oldest DS's writing up to an advanced high school level. Then we moved on to misc units of EiL depending on what time period we're studying and what novels he's interested in. He uses the skills from WttW on each EiL novel he reads. This system has worked really, really, really well for him and unless it just really is a major flop for any of my other kids it's what I plan for them to do as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeOrchidSong Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 Thanks a lot! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 My dd has been disappointed with The Argument Builder. She says it's a lot dryer than Art of Argument, which she loved. It's also not at all secular, whereas there was nothing that I remember in AoA that was overtly religious. I was annoyed that AB gave scientifically (as opposed to religiously) inaccurate information on evolution. I can handle a book saying, basically, "we don't believe in evolution," because we do and we can just agree to disagree. But to try to use incorrect science to bolster your position makes me unhappy. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunshineMom Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I have James Madison Critical Thinking Course on our shelf but haven't used it yet. My dd completed Fallacy Detective and Art of Argument last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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