tmstranger Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 What age/grade is this *usually* taught?? I appreciate any input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverMoon Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Plagiarism - Whatever age they are when they first attempt it. Citing Sources - 5th-7th grade or so? Depended on the kid I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmstranger Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 I just scanned the table of contents for WWS1, which my ds will be using for 6th. It's in there starting at week 28, but I was curious when other curriculum books teach this. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 My kids just learn how to cite sources when they did their first public school science fair project. They followed similar instructions to page 22-24 of link https://www.massscifair.com/sites/default/files/student_guide_312_0.pdf My oldest learnt how to do citation in his K12 LA but I have forgotten which grade it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I'm thinking I was 12, so 7th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali in OR Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 As soon as they're writing essays/reports with sources. We touched on it this year for sixth grade while using MCT's Essay Voyage. We move on to his Advanced Academic Writing next year (7th grade), and if I remember correctly most of the writing assignments will include a Works Cited page. He follows the MLA format. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughing lioness Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I love how WWS addresses this. I'm thinking Jr high-ish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughing lioness Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I love how WWS addresses this. I'm thinking Jr high-ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cottonwood Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I can't remember for me, but both mine were in 5th grade and in public school here when they were first taught. It was repeated in 6th and now they are homeschooling in 7th and 8th and it is continually a part of certain lessons now as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I've heard of citing sources being taught as early as first grade now in some schools. I think that's rather ridiculous. I think most places are still doing it later, more like fourth or fifth. We'll be doing it around 6th or 7th here. I think elementary school is still on the early end. I mean, could they do it? Sure, but what's the point before they can do more with it? My kids know what plagiarism is, but in elementary school I have wanted the focus to be on learning to get the words out, so I have specifically told them that in this stage of writing, it's okay to borrow the words and phrases for narrations, especially if they remember them. We focus on retelling, not on rephrasing and summary most of the time (though this is changing - we've been working on summary this year in fifth). They never sit there and copy the page, so I don't really have any worries about this, but I know that if they were worried about rephrasing every single thing for every written narration, we'd never get off the ground. We're moving away from that now in fifth grade. Probably within the next couple of years, I'll talk more about the need to be sure you're not plagiarizing when you write and what that looks like - not just not copying the words from a text but also citing the ideas and not copying the structure or outline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J&JMom Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Last year, I had my then fifth grader write a 2-page research with citations using MLA. He didn't quite get it. But, as we speak, he is editing his three-page paper, and I am ruthless with the citations. His writing book gives examples, so there is no excuse for not citing properly or writing a works cited page. My fourth grader is a bit behind in writing, but I still required him to cite sources on his power point presentations :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 And if for some reason you can't get to it in middle school, high school is fine, too, for first exposure. I teach a Lit. & Comp. co-op class for grades 7-12 students, and most of the students -- high schoolers, too -- have not done citations before. They all pick it up pretty quickly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmstranger Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Thanks all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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