CanadianAlison+3boys Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I need to add in more math for my older two kids and budget is a major restriction. I've looked over both MEP and Ray's and I like the look of both (MEP for it's very different approach and Ray's for word problem focus). I am just not 100% sure what level to put them in for either program. I'm waffling and could use some help deciding. We are new to homeschooling (only home for fourish months) after them both being in public school and I underestimated how much both of them would want to tear through math :D Oldest DS is 8.5, in grade 3, and is almost done Math Mammoth 3A. Very very good at mental math (hates to write out steps, also dysgraphic), needs more work on word problems. Middle DS is newly 6, and would be in K if he was still in PS. I started him slowly on Math Mammoth 1A to see if he could do it and he's just about to start 1B already. He's a process dude, every step he is taught he will follow. He's not reading fluently yet so I read the problems for him but he's great at hearing a problem and giving the answer orally. I also have another son who is 4, which is junior kindergarten age here. I've got Miquon Orange for him (and the others if they feel the urge, all three loooove the cuisenaire rods). So I am torn between MEP 2 or 3 for my oldest and MEP reception or 1 for my middle. Which would be best for where they are? And for Ray's I'm not sure which of the books I want for my oldest. Any ideas from those familiar with either program would be most appreciated :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherry in OH Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I use MEP. I would do reception with the youngest. Invite the others to join in for the games. Start your middle child with year 1, but move quickly through the concepts he has already mastered. Where to start the oldest depends on whether or not he has been introduced to multiplication and division. Multiplication and simple division are taught in 2B. If your child is reasonably proficient in multiplication through 10x10 and corresponding division, start with year 3. Otherwise, start with year 2. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivka Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Sherry in OH posted almost exactly the recommendations I would have given you for MEP. I wouldn't bother with Reception for your 4yo, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateMomster Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 For your 4 year old, you could also pull out activities from the Lab Sheet Annotations, and you won't have to use a workbook yet. I love the first few pages of each new concept, and the activities to go with it, for preschool. No need for the workbooks, with those activities IMO. I agree with either 2b or 3a for the eldest and 1a for the youngest. Year 1 starts out slowly but picks up reasonably fast, especially in 1b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Here is ONE possible way to do free math. It's designed to be compatible with a Waldorf/CM curriculum and the cursive-first approach for handwriting, and is NOT based on the common core. I find it hard to use scanned copies of vintage books once the student starts fractions and exponents. I can't see the numbers as well as I'd like to. Year 0 Teach tally marks instead of figures. 1-5 Eclectic Manual of Methods 1885 pg. 107-110 https://archive.org/details/eclecticmanualof00stew Number Primer 1909 by M. A. Bailey pg.11-15 http://books.google.com/books?id=MQMAAAAAYAAJ&dq=Number+Primer+1909+by+M.+A.+Bailey&source=gbs_navlinks_s Hamilton’s Arithmetics First Book New Jersey Edition 1913 pg. 7-12 http://books.google.com/books?id=KgcAAAAAYAAJ&dq=editions:7KUrtxiHhpAC&source=gbs_navlinks_s The Prang Primary Course in Art Education Part 1 1892 by Mary Dana Hicks http://books.google.com/books?id=KnUoAAAAYAAJ&source=gbs_book_similarbooks *************************** Year 1 ** First half ** Teach tally marks instead of figures. 1-10 Eclectic Manual of Methods 1885 pg. 107-114 https://archive.org/details/eclecticmanualof00stew Number Primer 1909 by M. A. Bailey pg. 11-19 http://books.google.com/books?id=MQMAAAAAYAAJ&dq=Number+Primer+1909+by+M.+A.+Bailey&source=gbs_navlinks_s Hamilton’s Arithmetics First Book 1913 New Jersey Edition pg. 7-12 http://books.google.com/books?id=KgcAAAAAYAAJ&dq=Hamilton’s+Arithmetics+First+Book+1913+New+Jersey+Edition&source=gbs_navlinks_s The Prang Primary Course in Art Education Part 1 1892 by Mary Dana Hicks http://books.google.com/books?id=KnUoAAAAYAAJ&source=gbs_book_similarbooks ** Second half ** Start teaching slanted script figures and words. 1-10 A Primary Arithmetic and Teacher’s Manual 1875 by Edward Olney pg. 1-12 https://archive.org/details/aprimaryarithme03olnegoog Work and Play 1912 by George Wentworth pg. 7-24 https://archive.org/details/workandplaywith00smitgoog Progressive Course in English Teachers’ Manual by E. J. Hoenshel pg. 13-14 http://books.google.com/books?id=Zn8SAAAAIAAJ&dq=Progressive+Course+in+English +Teacher’s+Manual&source=gbs_navlinks_s Hamilton’s Arithmetics First Book 1913 New Jersey Edition pg. 7-12 http://books.google.com/books?id=KgcAAAAAYAAJ&dq=Hamilton’s+Arithmetics+First+Book+1913+New+Jersey+Edition&source=gbs_navlinks_s The Prang Primary Course in Art Education Part 1 1892 by Mary Dana Hicks http://books.google.com/books?id=KnUoAAAAYAAJ&source=gbs_book_similarbooks ***************************** Year 2 ** First half ** 0-20 Hamilton’s Arithmetics First Book 1913 New Jersey Edition pg. 7-30 http://books.google.com/books?id=KgcAAAAAYAAJ&dq=Hamilton’s+Arithmetics+First+Book+1913+New+Jersey+Edition&source=gbs_navlinks_s The Prang Primary Course in Art Education Part 2 1892 by Mary Dana Hicks http://books.google.com/books?id=L8IBAAAAYAAJ&oe=UTF-8 Eclectic Manual of Methods 1885 pg. 115-124 https://archive.org/details/eclecticmanualof00stew ** Second half ** 0-100 School Arithmetics Book 1 1920 by George Wentworth ch. 1 http://books.google.com/books?id=2W0XAAAAYAAJ&dq=editions:_hezQ0ym14sC&source=gbs_navlinks_s The Prang Primary Course in Art Education Part 2 1892 by Mary Dana Hicks http://books.google.com/books?id=L8IBAAAAYAAJ&oe=UTF-8 Eclectic Manual of Methods 1885 pg. 115-124 https://archive.org/details/eclecticmanualof00stew Ray’s New Primary Arithmetic 1877 pg. 5-40 http://www.ronpaulcurriculum.com/public/department121.cfm **************************** Year 3 School Arithmetics Book 1 1920 by George Wentworth ch. 2-3 (answers included) http://books.google.com/books?id=2W0XAAAAYAAJ&dq=editions:_hezQ0ym14sC&source=gbs_navlinks_s The Prang Primary Course in Art Education Part 2 1892 by Mary Dana Hicks http://books.google.com/books?id=L8IBAAAAYAAJ&oe=UTF-8 Eclectic Manual of Methods 1885 pg. 124-130 https://archive.org/details/eclecticmanualof00stew Ray’s New Primary Arithmetic 1877 pg. 41-83 http://www.ronpaulcurriculum.com/public/department121.cfm ***************************** Year 4 School Arithmetics Book 1 1920 by George Wentworth ch. 4-5 (answers included) http://books.google.com/books?id=2W0XAAAAYAAJ&dq=editions:_hezQ0ym14sC&source=gbs_navlinks_s Eclectic Manual of Methods 1885 pg. 131-133 Third Year Course https://archive.org/details/eclecticmanualof00stew Tangrams http://www.scifun.ed.ac.uk/pages/exhibits/tangram-puzzle-sheet.pdf ******************************* Year 5 School Arithmetics Book 2 1920 by George Wentworth ch. 1-2 (answers included) http://books.google.com/books?id=F24XAAAAYAAJ&dq=editions:_hezQ0ym14sC&source=gbs_navlinks_s Constructive Form Work 1901 by William Nicholas Hailmann lessons 1-6 http://books.google.com/books?id=FTEAAAAAYAAJ&dq=editions:LZrYTOHB5qEC&source=gbs_navlinks_s Eclectic Manual of Methods 1885 Fourth Year Course pg. 134-135 https://archive.org/details/eclecticmanualof00stew ********************************* Year 6 School Arithmetics Book 2 1920 by George Wentworth ch. 3-4 (answers included) http://books.google.com/books?id=F24XAAAAYAAJ&dq=editions:_hezQ0ym14sC&source=gbs_navlinks_s Constructive Form Work lessons 1901 by William Nicholas Hailmann 7-15 http://books.google.com/books?id=FTEAAAAAYAAJ&dq=editions:LZrYTOHB5qEC&source=gbs_navlinks_s Eclectic Manual of Methods 1885 Fourth Year Course pg. 134-135 https://archive.org/details/eclecticmanualof00stew ********************************* Year 7 School Arithmetics Book 3 1920 by George Wentworth ch. 1-2 (answers included) http://books.google.com/books?id=BAYAAAAAYAAJ&dq=editions:_hezQ0ym14sC&source=gbs_navlinks_s Constructive Form Work lessons 1901 by William Nicholas Hailmann 16-26 http://books.google.com/books?id=FTEAAAAAYAAJ&dq=editions:LZrYTOHB5qEC&source=gbs_navlinks_s Eclectic Manual of Methods 1885 Fifth Year Course pg. 135-136 https://archive.org/details/eclecticmanualof00stew ********************************* Year 8 NCERT Class 6 Mathematics (answers included) http://www.ncert.nic.in/ncerts/textbook/textbook.htm?femh1=0-14 NCERT Class 6 Exemplar Problems (answers included) http://www.ncert.nic.in/ncerts/textbook/textbook.htm?feep1=0-9 Eclectic Manual of Methods 1885 Fifth & Sixth Year Course pg. 135-137 https://archive.org/details/eclecticmanualof00stew School Arithmetics Book 3 1920 by George Wentworth ch. 3-4 (answers included) http://books.google.com/books?id=BAYAAAAAYAAJ&dq=editions:_hezQ0ym14sC&source=gbs_navlinks_s ********************************** Year 9 NCERT Class 7 Mathematics (answers included) http://www.ncert.nic.in/ncerts/textbook/textbook.htm?gemh1=0-15 NCERT Class 7 Exemplar Problems (answers included) http://www.ncert.nic.in/ncerts/textbook/textbook.htm?gemp1=0-13 Eclectic Manual of Methods 1885 Fifth & Sixth Year Course pg. 135-137 https://archive.org/details/eclecticmanualof00stew School Arithmetics Book 3 1920 by George Wentworth ch. 3-4 (answers included) http://books.google.com/books?id=BAYAAAAAYAAJ&dq=editions:_hezQ0ym14sC&source=gbs_navlinks_s ********************************** Year 10 NCERT Class 8 Mathematics (answers included) http://www.ncert.nic.in/ncerts/textbook/textbook.htm?hemh1=0-16 NCERT Class 8 Exemplar Problems (answers included) http://www.ncert.nic.in/ncerts/textbook/textbook.htm?heep2=0-13 ********************************** Year Plus First Year Algebra 1915 by William James Milne (answers included) http://books.google.com/books?id=2xgAAAAAYAAJ&source=gbs_navlinks_s ************************************ Year Beyond A School Algebra 1896 by Emerson Elbridge White http://books.google.com/books?id=tbcXAAAAIAAJ&source=gbs_navlinks_s ************************************ NOTES For an earlier start in algebra, skip either years 6-7 or years 8-10. Beginning Algebra can also be skipped and the student can start directly in White’s A School Algebra. For gifted students, there is an unnecessary amount of overlap built into the math curriculum. For average students, the overlap will result in a much stronger foundation, reduce frustration, allow the student to work more independently, and reduce the likelihood of remedial classes. Make Haste Slowly. To earn a general high school diploma and to test out of remedial junior college math, Year 10 will need to be completed. Demanding junior colleges that focus on transfer degrees, rather than in-house diplomas, will require the completion of Year Plus and possibly even Year Beyond. If a student is struggling, do not make the mistake of rushing ahead, anyway. Try to test out of as many levels of remedial classes as possible, rather than trying to test out of them all. Merely testing out of the arithmetic class is an achievement, that many public school students cannot manage. Rushed students are the ones that need to take ALL the remedial classes, including basic arithmetic. Ray’s New Intellectual Arithmetic and New Practical Arithmetic http://www.ronpaulcurriculum.com/public/department121.cfm Ray’s New Test Examples 1883 https://archive.org/stream/raysnewtestexamp00rayjrich#page/212/mode/2up Dubbs' arithmetical problems: to supplement Ray's New practical arithmetic http://books.google.com/books?id=HTthqbn4YdUC&dq=dubbs+test+problems&source=gbs_navlinks_s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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