Kanin Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Hi all, finally a question about my other student! He is 10. He's with me because he is still not counting consistently, let alone adding or subtracting. After doing a lot of dice work with Ronit Bird, (and now I have the ebooks, yay!) he is starting to visualize patterns! Yeah! Yesterday we were playing "Make 10." He saw an 8 card and a 2 card and excitedly said that they make ten. When I asked him to explain, he touched one dot of the 2 pattern and then touched the pattern of four in the eight. Then he touched the other dot in the 2 pattern and touched the other pattern of four in eight. He was seeing the two dots fill in the 8 pattern to make the 10 pattern. I did a happy dance! However - he is still not counting consistently. He is improving a lot, but I'd say his counting is still 50/50. He will double count, skip objects, etc. I had him bouncing a ball today and it helped, but he is still not matching counts to bounces. I bounced the ball ONE time while counting really fast to eight. How many times did I bounce? I asked. Eight! he replied. :001_huh: Anyone have any ideas about how to encourage one-to-one correspondence? So far we're counting everything, and bouncing balls while counting. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneStepAtATime Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 No suggestions off the top of my head, but I must say I hate bouncing a ball for counting. For me, not the kids. It confuses me. :) But good job on the progress. Yeah! I know this is frustrating but even seeing a little breakthrough is awesome. Good job, mainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geodob Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 You wrote that: ' He was seeing the two dots fill in the 8 pattern to make the 10 pattern.' But rather he was recognising groups of 5 and then adding them together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanin Posted January 23, 2015 Author Share Posted January 23, 2015 That's right, he was seeing the two groups of 5 and adding them together. Today we walked, hopped, jumped... while holding a number line, and moved our fingers along the number line as we moved. He kinda-sorta got it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingCat Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The whole bouncing/jumping thing was 'rhythm' to my DD - and very hard for her to grasp. It made it harder for her to count not easier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneStepAtATime Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The whole bouncing/jumping thing was 'rhythm' to my DD - and very hard for her to grasp. It made it harder for her to count not easier! Yeah, me too! But I was never good at percussion in band, either. I did a lot better with the flute. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanin Posted January 23, 2015 Author Share Posted January 23, 2015 Interesting, maybe the bouncing is not so great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geodob Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Though walking, hopping, jumping is just a linear process, from one movement to the next. Their is no sense of them as a quantity? His forming and recognizing groups of 5. Reflects the way that the brain processes numbers? While our number system carries at 10. The brain actually carries at 5. So that the brain really works with: 1,2,3,4 then,10,11,12,13,14, then 20,21,22,23,24, etc. This relates to how the brain can instantly recognize individual elements, as groups of 2,3 and 4. Which is what provides us with a sense of different sized quantities. But with 5, the elements lose their individuality and convert to one container of 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanin Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 Thanks for sharing your thoughts... it really helps being able to bounce ideas off other people instead of going around in circles in my own brain! :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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