Chelli Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I am starting this thread now as a cautionary tale for those purchasing or thinking about purchasing Kindle Fires for Christmas. My daughter got a Kindle Fire HD for her birthday this summer (July). The first one she got went black after one month. It wouldn't charge. It wouldn't turn on. It wouldn't do anything. So Amazon sent us a replacement. After one week, the replacement (which was a refurbished one not a new one like we had bought) began to just randomly shut off in the middle of reading a book, playing a game, etc. It didn't time out since we were busy using it at the time. Now it will only work without shutting off if you keep it hooked up to the charger. I know that we could send it back to Amazon for another one since it's still within a year, but I am just DONE with Kindle Fires. I have a Kindle Touch that I adore and it has never given me a problem at all. I just hate to think of the money that went down the drain for this tablet. I wanted a portable device that the kids could take on car trips to watch movies, read, and play, but we have to keep it hooked up all the time for it not to shut down, so it's not really portable at all. So if you were planning on a Fire for Christmas I would highly think of getting a different tablet. BTW, once I started researching this I discovered that this is a common problem with the Fires. Very common.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Which charger are you using? The black usb cable with the black fatter charger works better. The white usb cable is not so good. If the charger is faulty it would fry every kindle. I have burnt one ipad charger at the end connection :lol: My kids kindles HD and HDX survived more than 8hr long car rides. ETA: I tried the kindle cable with my iPhone charger. Don't charge as well but will still charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Thanks for posting the cautionary tale. We've got ipads but I've been thinking of getting a fire or two for Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T'smom Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Well that is not good! We've bought kindles for both of our kids for Christmas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelli Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 Which charger are you using? The black sub cable with the black fatter charger works better. The white usb cable is not so good. If the charger is faulty it would fry every kindle. I have burnt one ipad charger :lol: My kids kindles HD and HDX survived more than 8hr long car rides. We're using the one that came with it. It's black. It's not a charger problem. It's some kind of software glitch or something. There's all kind of theories floating around on the internet about how to fix it, but basically no one knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelli Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 Thanks for posting the cautionary tale. We've got ipads but I've been thinking of getting a fire or two for Christmas. Stick with the iPads or even the Galaxy Tabs. Neither of those have this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 It's not a charger problem. It's some kind of software glitch or something.There was quite a few software updates. My old 7" HD is now running Fire OS 4.1.1 with no issues so far. I don't know if Amazon would let you exchange your faulty one for the new 6". I like the size and the back camera of my newer 6" kindle fire HD. ETA: I mean it's a waste that you got a lemon which end up being an irritating white elephant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happi duck Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I hope Amazon makes it right for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyinTN Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I would be on the phone with Amazon and getting a new replacement. We have 2 and have had no problems...hope they fix it asap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplemom Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 My 1st generation only gets dusted once in awhile since I got an iPad, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmtzc2009 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I'm sorry your having so much trouble! I had the same problem with my Kindle Fire. Amazon replaced it once during the warranty period. It had some sort of software glitch and suddenly wouldn't take a charge. Now I'm out of warranty and it stopped working again. Same thing happened to my niece. My three boys however each have one and have had no trouble and it's been two years of use. I hope Amazon can get this fixed for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Yep my kindle fire did the same thing :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondeviolin Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 We have three. One randomly has a hard time powering on. I have to keep pressing and holding the button until one time it finally takes. No issues with the other two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSmomof2 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 We have three Fires here, and none have had problems. Even my original, first generation, Firecis still working just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staceyobu Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 We have one with the exact same issue. Also got a replacement under warranty. Warranty ended and the shut off issues returned. We have two other, newer models. They have had no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten18 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 We have a first generation that we had replaced a couple times, they even replaced it once after the one year warranty had expired. We also have a newer one (1.5 years old) that has never had any issues. What are you plugging the black cord into? I have found the kindles to be VERY picky about what kind of usb wall charger they will charge with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Elf Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I had to have my KIndle Fire replaced because it wouldn't charge. Call them and get it replaced again. Maybe this time you'll get a good one. I love mine and I hope I don't have problems with it now that I'm out of warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbel Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 How about calling and asking for a refund instead of another Kindle, since you're on your second one with problems. In your position I wouldn't want another one, but you shouldn't have to take the financial hit for a nonworking device under warranty. ETA: We're a Fire family here, with one coming up on 2 years old, and another just over a year old, with no problems at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellen Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Our older Kindle Fire is difficult to charge. There are good ones and bad ones out there and we have a bad one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 On the other hand, we have a bazillion Fires and no trouble that wasn't self-caused. They are awesome little Tablets. Got two original Fires when they first came out. One quit working (our fault)*, still have the other. Works great. Got 5 7" HD's and one 8.9" HD when they came out. With the exception of one of the 7" HD's they are all doing great. The one that isn't is my 6 year old's. He's had it almost 2 years now and has dropped it a *lot.* He killed it (volume would randomly go up... once in the middle of church) while on a trip to Ireland where he used it a lot (and I suspect the inverters we had to use for charging were part of the issue because they all acted up a little on that trip only). When we got home, we called Amazon. They replaced it immediately (no problem getting a refurbished one to replace... after all ours wasn't new anymore). It's been a year and a half since then and at some point the external buttons quit working. Then it wouldn't turn on at all. My husband opened it up and found a couple random screws floating around inside (have I mentioned the kid has dropped his Fire more than a few times???). He removed those screws and the thing went back to working. And the external buttons work again. We also have an 8.9" HDX that works great, too. *Whatever you do, I'd recommend NOT using a Fire while it's being charged. All issues we've had with them (other than my kid dropping his a lot) have been related to using them while charging. This is why the one original Fire quit working. Using it while charging is a big no-no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparklyUnicorn Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 We have 4 of them and never had a single problem. That's some lousy luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie in Ma Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I'm so sorry, mine had behaved perfectly for over a year. I wonder if it's a batch thing? For what it's worth, my daughter's Samsung tablet totally rocks and I freely admit to coveting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wapiti Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 My kindle fire also stopped charging a long time ago FWIW.... I think it was less than a year old, but by the time I got around to doing anything, it was past the warranty. Everything I was reading with regard to my difficulty indicated that the charger port on the Kindle Fire may be faulty. Too bad there doesn't seem to be any place to get it fixed without sending it back. My dh got me an iPad mini for my birthday, so that solves the tablet need (for tablet purposes, I much prefer the iPad), though I still wish I had the Kindle occasionally when there's a book I just don't want to wait for. Mostly I prefer real books anyway. (Dh has a paperwhite and **loves** it - it has been in constant use for a couple years now) Since I now have the iPad mini, if I wanted a new Kindle, I'd just get the Paperwhite or latest similar model. I would not get the Fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandra Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Thanks for the heads up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiana Daniels Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Uh oh. Not cool! We bought 2 for Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I'd get my money back AND be vocal about the replacement being a refurbished one! I can't believe they did that! I've known them to be generous when they make a mistake, so I'd DEFINITELY complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelli Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 I'd get my money back AND be vocal about the replacement being a refurbished one! I can't believe they did that! I've known them to be generous when they make a mistake, so I'd DEFINITELY complain. Most of the replacement Kindles they send out are refurbs from what I understand. That part really made me angry too. I spent money for a new one. I want a new one for my replacement, KWIM? :cursing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelli Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 I know that I should send this one back too, but I fear getting burned again. One person on the Amazon forum said they were on their FOURTH KIndle Fire, and it was still having the same issue. Most people had just given up of ever getting it fixed and had moved on to a different product. I would rather have my money back and get a different tablet. Usually I am so impressed with Amazon, but this situation is making me view them in a different light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I have a Google Nexus 7 that has had zero issues in about 18 months of service. I use it everyday. I almost went with a Fire due to price, but someone recommended against it. I'm sorry you're having issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Yes, get your money back. I think it's terrible business to send a refurb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 for thoe that just bought tablets for Christmas, I want to suggest a square trade warranty! I have square trade on my regular kindle,and when it broke they just sent me the money for a new one via paypal! Square trade is awesome. We bought Kindle Fires for the kids for Christmas, but I feel pretty confident because we bought the square trade warranties on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Yes, get your money back. I think it's terrible business to send a refurb! That's actually *normal* business practice. Yours is no longer new either. In many cases, they are replacing something several months old and due to reasons that are user-caused. They replaced my son's Fire no questions asked even though the problems were very much user caused. Also, remember that a refurb can be something someone never even took out of the package and then returned. Any time something is in a user's hand and returned it is then called a refurb. It doesn't mean it was something someone had that broke. They are often just as new as a brand new one would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 My kindle fire also stopped charging a long time ago FWIW.... I think it was less than a year old, but by the time I got around to doing anything, it was past the warranty. Everything I was reading with regard to my difficulty indicated that the charger port on the Kindle Fire may be faulty. Too bad there doesn't seem to be any place to get it fixed without sending it back. FYI, this was a problem with the *first* generation Kindle Fires only. Not the HDs or HDXs. Generally the charger port would get loose after it was used while in the process of charging it, but sometimes it was just because it was plugged in too hard too many times (and "hard" didn't have to be super hard, just firm). They changed the charging set up when they moved to second generation (HD). Weirdly, they also got rid of the very useful charging light in the process of that change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnM Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I don't have a FIRE but my Kindle basic just died. grrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 We have three kindle fires, different generations. Not one has ever given us a problem, unlike the iPad minis... I did have trouble with a kindle keyboard a couple of years ago and Amazon sent me a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyful Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Whoa... I'm just reading the OP.... And I just got a Kindle Fire HD. My husband set it up a couple days ago, but I haven't tried to use it yet. I guess I should use it to see if it gives me any trouble, so that I can exchange it if it turns out to be a lemon. Did you get a Kindle Fire HD 6, 7, or 8? I got a 6.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Florida. Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 FYI, this was a problem with the *first* generation Kindle Fires only. Not the HDs or HDXs. I have a first generation HD (7") that I bought 2 years ago. I haven't had any problems with it at all. It charges fine, holds a charge for a decent amount of time (unless I'm watching videos), and has never been glitchy. My Kindle Keyboard screen cracked but that was a user problem. The user (yours truly) dropped it and it hit the corner of a table. We have/had 5 other e-ink Kindles in our household and none have had any problems. We all upgraded to Paperwhites, and I recently sold the 2 older ones. One was a Touch (discontinued) the other a Basic. Both were in excellent condition and never gave us any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelli Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 Whoa... I'm just reading the OP.... And I just got a Kindle Fire HD. My husband set it up a couple days ago, but I haven't tried to use it yet. I guess I should use it to see if it gives me any trouble, so that I can exchange it if it turns out to be a lemon. Did you get a Kindle Fire HD 6, 7, or 8? I got a 6.... It's a Kindle Fire HD 7". I'm assuming the 6, 7, or 8 is referring to size. Hopefully it will work for you. Apparently quite a few folks have no trouble at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pippen Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I have a first generation HD (7") that I bought 2 years ago. I haven't had any problems with it at all. It charges fine, holds a charge for a decent amount of time (unless I'm watching videos), and has never been glitchy. Ditto for one year. I have had to replace the charger and cord after six months of heavy use. I have had to use the soft reset button, especially if I've been using it for video or trying to surf faster than it can keep up, but it's always corrected the problem. I had a first generation Kindle Fire that gave me a lot of trouble, but they bent over backwards to keep me in one that worked, even sending me a replacement three months after the warranty was up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiguirre Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 We have 2 original kindle fires (one's even a cheapie refurb) and both have stood hard use for more than a year. I do sometimes have to wiggle the charger to get it working and I've had to try several different chargers. The most reliable charger for us is a $5 Motorola usb wall socket charger. If you can't get them to give you a replacement, I'd fool around with all of your chargers. You might get lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StartingOver Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I have a Kindle Key board, first and second generation Fires. Just ordered the new HD Fires for Christmas. We have had a few issues with the charger port, but the newer ones seem to be better than the first generation. I have had three replacements. Customer service is amazing, and they always send the new before we have to return the old. I have thought again and again about other options. But for the price, I just can't beat the Kindles. Now with front and rear facing, and printing option. I am just over the moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyful Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 It's a Kindle Fire HD 7". I'm assuming the 6, 7, or 8 is referring to size. Hopefully it will work for you. Apparently quite a few folks have no trouble at all. I see. I have a 6". Thanks, hoping for the best.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneStepAtATime Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 My DS10 has a Kindle Fire HD 7" and he uses it constantly, every day. It has been nearly a year. He never has had an issue. Not once. It has been awesome. Perhaps your charger is bad or you just got a fluke defective one? Seriously, contact them and have them replace it with a new one, and a new charger, too. It shouldn't have this issue. I know a lot of people with Kindle Fires. Not one has had that issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelli Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 There is nothing wrong with the charge. It holds a charge beautifully and charges up just fine. The issue is that when you are in the middle of doing something it will just kick itself into sleep mode for no reason. It's totally random and unpredictable. In the middle of watching a movie and it will suddenly go black. In the middle of playing a game and it just goes into sleep mode. Reading a book, sleep mode. It is not timing out from inactivity because you will have just been touching it. If you keep it plugged into the charger while you are using the Kindle, then it doesn't do that. Not sure why, but it works without going into sleep mode if you do that. I'm going to contact Amazon tomorrow and see if we can get another one. Here's hoping third times the charm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I know that I should send this one back too, but I fear getting burned again. One person on the Amazon forum said they were on their FOURTH KIndle Fire, and it was still having the same issue. Most people had just given up of ever getting it fixed and had moved on to a different product. I would rather have my money back and get a different tablet. Usually I am so impressed with Amazon, but this situation is making me view them in a different light. Which Kindle Fire is it? Is it all of them or just certain models (generations)? We just bought three for Christmas! The 6" HD one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelli Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share Posted December 8, 2014 Which Kindle Fire is it? Is it all of them or just certain models (generations)? We just bought three for Christmas! The 6" HD one. The original one was just purchased this summer. It was a Kindle Fire 7" HD. That one was not working within a week of getting it (wouldn't turn on/solid black screen). The next one they sent us was also a Kindle Fire 7" HD, but it is a refurb. This one now has trouble with going into sleep mode randomly. You can get it to turn on and work, but you have to keep it plugged in to the charger the entire time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten18 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 There is nothing wrong with the charge. It holds a charge beautifully and charges up just fine. The issue is that when you are in the middle of doing something it will just kick itself into sleep mode for no reason. It's totally random and unpredictable. In the middle of watching a movie and it will suddenly go black. In the middle of playing a game and it just goes into sleep mode. Reading a book, sleep mode. It is not timing out from inactivity because you will have just been touching it. If you keep it plugged into the charger while you are using the Kindle, then it doesn't do that. Not sure why, but it works without going into sleep mode if you do that. I'm going to contact Amazon tomorrow and see if we can get another one. Here's hoping third times the charm. I would just call Amazon and get another one. You have nothing to lose. They will keep replacing them for you, at least until the 1 year warranty is up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolly Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I'd get my money back AND be vocal about the replacement being a refurbished one! I can't believe they did that! I've known them to be generous when they make a mistake, so I'd DEFINITELY complain. Sending a refurb replacement has been their standard response for a very long time. It is written into their policy as how it will be handled. It is not an unusual policy, and not unique to Amazon. I have been very happy with Amazon overall, but their response to problems with Kindles, not just the Fire, is generally "so sorry, but there is nothing we can do." Yes, they will send a replacement out as long as it is under warranty, but the day it stops, they stop. I have found all of the Kindles to be very low on lifespan. It hasn't stopped me from purchasing them yet. But, when my Paperwhite appeared to be dead a month ago (three days out of warranty), I decided I was done. But, after the Amazon help people gave up on it (and they didn't try very hard!), I was able to revive it. Not sure how long it will last, but it has stopped doing the strange things it was doing for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiguirre Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I've had a kindle go wonky a couple of times and had luck rebooting them. You hold down the on button for about a minute (it's supposed to be 30 seconds, but all the help boards suggest doing it for a full minute and that's been my experience too). Then turn the kindle on and it will start with a black screen, then display the logo for a minute or so and then go back to its home page. This procedure has solved all the weird glitches I've encountered, but I've never had Chelli's problem. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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