joysworld Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Can someone compare the two? We are in wwe3 and I'm contemplating on whether to do wws1 or iew for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joysworld Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 Wanted to add that DS will be in fifth grade next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warneral Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I would probably wait on WWS or do it half pace. See the sticky at the top .. Here it is http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/509138-if-youre-using-wwe-or-wws/ 5th grade is typically young for WWS. IMO it is a stronger program teaching (with plenty of practice) a wide variety of academic styles of writing. We did not care for IEW. My dd is currently finishing WWE3 (after several writing rabbit trails through the year including IEW) and she is doing Treasured Conversations and will start WWS next year for 6th. TC is teaching outlining and writing from an outline so it helps build skill that will help with WWS next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrammarGirl Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 As a former writing prof, I recommend SWB's series above IEW. I know many people feel IEW has improved their children's writing, but I would much rather a student develop his own style organically rather than being required to use the openers and dressups that IEW teaches. From what I've seen of Treasured Conversations, it looks like a perfect bridge between WWE and WWS; I can't imagine a better approach to teaching style. The last few years I taught in a high school that suggested we try to use at least some of IEW's TWSS. I really could not in good conscience incorporate much because I felt I would be hindering my students when it comes to academic writing. (I have my own approach based on the college courses I've taught.) Some of the models in IEW just won't be appropriate in college courses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joysworld Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 Can you tell me more about Treasured Conversations? I'm not using wws1 until sixth grade, so I was thinking about switching to iew. But if I stick to wws I need to figure what to use in between wwe and wws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrammarGirl Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Can you tell me more about Treasured Conversations? I'm not using wws1 until sixth grade, so I was thinking about switching to iew. But if I stick to wws I need to figure what to use in between wwe and wws. I can't post links from my phone, but there is a long thread about it. It was written by 8FilltheHeart, one of the forum's most experienced moms. I think her website is treasuredconversations.com. There are samples on the site. The book begins with grammar, but it's grammar in the context of composition. She uses an approach that she calls scaffolding to teach students to structure first solid sentences and then paragraphs. The student is weaned off the scaffolding so that they can eventually compose their own work. What I love about 8's approach, as opposed to IEW, is that she really seems to help students with diction and sentence structure so that he will naturally write solid sentences. IEW teaches kids to add a prep. phrase, an adverb, a participle, and a few more sentence openers plus what they call dress-ups to every paragraph. In my opinion, it is artificial style. The IEW TWSS actually refers to style being sprinkled in. But as a writing teacher, I believe the exact opposite (and so do Strunk and White!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joysworld Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 I found the thread by googling treasured conversation:). So, do you think doing tc will prepare a student for wws? I'm thinking yes, from what I have read so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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