Soror Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Is there not any thread on this? I just seen this on Facebook, when I saw the title I thought it would be the science version of SoTW but looking more it seems geared towards older ages, can anyone find more info? http://books.wwnorton.com/books/Author.aspx?id=5498 I cannot get Norton's individual page for this to load. It says a publication date of May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyGF Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 So excited! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 It looks cool and as someone who loves science writing and science history, I'll bet it's something I would enjoy. Looks more like it goes along with her adult level stuff though - sort of like it would be the thing you might read next if your kid did all of the Hakim series and was really into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Academy Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Sweet! I can't wait to read it! I agree with Farar it looks like a high school level thing. But it's right up our alley, and we've been talking about doing a history of science course in high school! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space station Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 May 2015! You go and get me all excited, and I have to wait 8 whole months! Toe tapping impatiently... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soror Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Yes, it certainly seems to be highschool level. I wonder how it will compare to Hakim's similarly titled books? It seems to be it is very similar but written at a higher level and in one volume. I finally got the publisher's site to load: http://books.wwnorton.com/books/detail.aspx?ID=4294987136 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I don't know where I got this idea, but I thought this was going to be something like The Well-Educated Mind, but for the classic science texts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alte Veste Academy Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Neat! It doesn't seem to be anything like Hakim. I get the impression that it is a guide to science reading, like The Well-Educated Mind for science history. I do wish it had a different title though, because The Story of Science is already out there and well known. There is already another book for kids by the same name as it is.ETA: Penelope said it! It took me took way too long to finish my very short post thanks to simultaneously talking through a word problem with DS8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idnib Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 :lurk5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue daisy Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Ooh, I can't wait to check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewaka Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Neat! It doesn't seem to be anything like Hakim. I get the impression that it is a guide to science reading, like The Well-Educated Mind for science history. I wish it had a different title, really, because The Story of Science is already out there and well known. There is already another book for kids by the same name as it is. ETA: Penelope said it! It took me took way too long to finish my very short post thanks to simultaneously talking through a word problem with DS8. SWB addressed the name issue on the FB post in the comments. I didn't even think of the Hakim series when I saw it, but I haven't read it/used it so am not as familiar with it. I am really looking forward to reading it myself, but my kids probably won't :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orthodox6 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 It is described as selections from primary sources, so would be for college or advanced high school students. Not at all like Hakim's books, which are chapters about prominent scientists and major movements with the development of science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 It will be interesting to see if this makes it easier to teach TWTM rhetoric science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Χά�ων Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Hmmm, I am not sure. Actually, I am very hesitant. I just am not sure it will do the subject justice and there are already several wonderful books out that I have to wonder if it is just reinventing the wheel. I also worry about pseudo science, such as the Young Earth Theory not being addressed as what it is while everything related to evolution is questioned and not given proper explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Wise Bauer Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Nothing like getting criticized before the book's even out. (I just wonder: On what basis is the above comment made? When have I addressed this issue in a way that would make readers assume I'm a proponent of "pseudo-science"? Hmm...) Anyway, exclusively for my boardies, here's a sneak preview. Table of Contents Foreword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodland Mist Academy Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kfamily Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I think it looks great! I'm going to find a way to incorporate it into our studies! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Thank you so much! The foreword really helped answer my question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clear Creek Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Table of Contents Foreword :hurray: It looks amazing! I look forward to reading it. I enjoy learning why people do things, so a book that discusses the "why" behind scientists' research sounds intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiMi 4under3 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Oh my! This book looks fabulous - can't wait to get my hands on it. :001_wub: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orthodox6 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I look forward to this book's publication. A number of the books listed were required reading for my history of science classes. (This was my undergraduate major.) An additional title, which could have fit well as a suggestion for further reading, is C. P. Snow's The Two Cultures. (which we read, as well) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Wise Bauer Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Most of C. P. Snow is well worth your time. Fascinating stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Academy Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Susan, this looks absolutely fascinating. I was just reading Adler's How To Read a Book, and he was talking about the difference between primary and secondary teachers, and creating a thought experiment about a university where Herodotus and Thucydides taught Greek history, Gibbon lectured on the fall of Rome, Euclid et. al. taught math, Aristotle, Sidney, Wordsworth & Shelley taught poetry & literary criticism. I was right with him, until he got to the science part, "Harvey discussed the circulation of blood, and Galen, Claude Bernard, and Haldane taught general physiology. Lectures on physics enlisted the talent of Galileo and Newton, Faraday and Maxwell, Planck and Einstein. Boyle, Dalton, Lavoisier, and Pasteur taught chemistry. Darwin and Mendel gave the main lectures on evolution and genetics." And I thought, wait a minute, that wouldn't satisfy me at all! That leaves out all the scientific discoveries and advances of the past 100+ years. I've been thinking well, maybe science is different from these other subjects because of the use of new instruments/technologies and the nature of discovery? But your forward helps to clarify my thinking about this. Science is totally different, yet it is also exactly the same - it's practiced by humans, within a social, political, and intellectual context, and understanding that context will enrich the understanding and ability to grapple with current issues. Anyway, I'm very excited to read this book. I think (respectfully) that maybe it is a history of science, but a history that, like all the best histories, links the discoveries, philosophies and world views to the past and creates a lense through which we can understand the present and future. How's that for gushing before the book is even out? ;) :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 That looks amazing Susan, I can't wait to get my hands on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I've been reading first edition TWTM science yesterday and today. How timely this book announcement is. I'm not sure of the differences in the first and third editions, but as I read the first, over and over, I am saying, "I get it now!" A little late after 14 years of reading this book. Better late than never, I guess. I'm looking forward to reading this new book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El... Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 It looks great! I love the forward. I will definitely pre-order it whenever I can! In a side note, I just finished the third history of the world book. Please keep working on the next one of those, when you have time! The plagues, the crusades... it was grim but fascinating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiguirre Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Do you think you might offer this as a course at the WTM Academy with coordinated labs? That would be awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idnib Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Looks fantastic! I would love an examination of science writing! Swoon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaLisa Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Anyway, exclusively for my boardies, here's a sneak preview. Table of Contents Foreword Woop! Thanks and looking forward to it! Release in May? Too bad we can't wrap it for this year's Christmas Eve book exchange. Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlessedMom Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 It looks wonderful, Susan!! Thank you for sharing the forward and the table of contents!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRAAB Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I'm interested in getting this. In fact, it looks like so something my do would enjoy. Am I correct that it won't be out until May 2015? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alte Veste Academy Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Thanks so much for sharing the samples. I've been working through TWEM (ever so slowly) and plan to use it for high school. This looks great as a supplement to history and lit for my science lover when he gets to the rhetoric level. I can't even count how many times I have used science to lure this kid back to history. Just to be clear, my comment about the title was not a criticism so much as a wish. LOL I did go read the Facebook comment about the title being left up to Norton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Wise Bauer Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Just to be clear, my comment about the title was not a criticism so much as a wish. You and me both. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linguistmama Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ooh, this looks so neat! Are you still planning to write a fourth volume of the History of the World series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orthodox6 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Most of C. P. Snow is well worth your time. Fascinating stuff. Thank you for the kind reply. I did not wish to be misconstrued as expressing negative criticism [of what promises to be a valuable book] ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Ooh! Thanks for posting about this. Looks very, very interesting. Can I just say, I am glad this isn't out now. I seriously have so much stuff to read that I am overwhelmed. My new goal is to have my bedside table all cleaned up, and the pile of books on the floor GONE so I can read this when it comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critterfixer Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Yes! Can't wait to get it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happypamama Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 This looks amazing! Thank you, SWB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandylubug Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 It looks marvelous and will be added to my personal wish list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJosMom Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 So, SWB, do you need some help with editing and/or review? I bet you might find one, or two, or a hundred willing volunteers! (But me first!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*lifeoftheparty* Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I am so excited about this book! Can't wait!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Lava Mama Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Nothing like getting criticized before the book's even out. (I just wonder: On what basis is the above comment made? When have I addressed this issue in a way that would make readers assume I'm a proponent of "pseudo-science"? Hmm...) Anyway, exclusively for my boardies, here's a sneak preview. Table of Contents Foreword Looks awesome! Definitely different then any other stuff out there. My oldest will LOVE this! :) (I don't know HOW you do it! So many great books!) Hot Lava Mama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FO4UR Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 This looks wonderful! I'm thinking this will be a favored piece of our high school studies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saddlemomma Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Ooooh! This looks gooooooood!!! I want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saddlemomma Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Nothing like getting criticized before the book's even out. (I just wonder: On what basis is the above comment made? When have I addressed this issue in a way that would make readers assume I'm a proponent of "pseudo-science"? Hmm...) Anyway, exclusively for my boardies, here's a sneak preview. Table of Contents Forewordh This looks really great! Don't worry about the criticism. I get the same accusation of being anti-science or promoting pseudo-science whenever I post something exciting I find in the realm of science which supports ID or OE Creationism. I just ignore it and move on. I think your new book will fit in nicely with our plans for DD's high school experience. Thank you so much for writing this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AimeeM Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 SWB addressed the name issue on the FB post in the comments. I didn't even think of the Hakim series when I saw it, but I haven't read it/used it so am not as familiar with it. I am really looking forward to reading it myself, but my kids probably won't :( Hakim's is what I first thought of when I saw the title ;) With that said, it doesn't seem to be anything like Hakim's. Hakim's is a narrative story of science throughout history, and SWB's seems to be more based on guiding the reading through reading the actual documents of science? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orthodox6 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Hakim's is what I first thought of when I saw the title ;) With that said, it doesn't seem to be anything like Hakim's. Hakim's is a narrative story of science throughout history, and SWB's seems to be more based on guiding the reading through reading the actual documents of science? Yes. Just as better quality of history study includes the studying of primary sources, Dr. Bauer is contributing to the better quality study of the history of science by compiling these pertinent primary sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AimeeM Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Yes. Just as better quality of history study includes the studying of primary sources, Dr. Bauer is contributing to the better quality study of the history of science by compiling these pertinent primary sources. Oh, it isn't a criticism at all. I think it would be a fabulous addition to a science program! I have every intention of grabbing for DD next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orthodox6 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Oh, it isn't a criticism at all. I think it would be a fabulous addition to a science program! I have every intention of grabbing for DD next year. What I meant was "Yes, you understood exactly right!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kareni Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 This looks enticing indeed! Thanks for the sneak peek. Regards, Kareni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.