Sebastian (a lady) Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Guys, Links are fine. Brief quotes from published articles are OK with links back to the original source, but keep the quotes short--WELL below 5% of the total article length. Wikipedia is generally considered public domain. Fair use/open use is OK, but be VERY sure that anything you post falls under this category. NEVER pull photos off magazine or news sites. Photos are really not OK unless you took them or unless you can prove that THEY are in the public domain. And yeah, that includes cupcakes and kilts. And probably Ryan Gosling too. Photos in avatars are still photos, so unless you own the rights or the photo is in the public domain, then yeah, it should come down too. I apologize for the trouble, but please try to do what you can. SWB Would it be correct that quotations from government websites are not copyrighted? Or is it better to remove now and verify later? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandylubug Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 would it help if while going through our posts, if we see other photos not ours that need to be removed, if we reported them? Just a thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Wise Bauer Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Wow, you guys are conscientious! Thanks. RE going back years and years...I have asked for further guidance from a Power That Is, and here's the take: Don't worry so much about past quotes/text. But photos, ESPECIALLY CELEBRITY PHOTOS, need to come down. Even if you put your own caption on a photo of Ryan Gosling, the photo itself is owned by someone who may very well accuse you/us of copyright infringement. Government websites are not a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Wise Bauer Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 would it help if while going through our posts, if we see other photos not ours that need to be removed, if we reported them? Just a thought. Yes, it would, thank you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandylubug Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 If we posted a photo or a comic that has the artist name and website along the side, that is ok, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Oh god, not the David Tennant photos! Oh the humanity..... 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Perhaps we can post threads that have possible issues that might need cleansed? Here's one. I don't see anything in that thread that is problematic? I don't see any large blocks of quotes or anything like that? I think short quotes, particularly from books that are being critiqued are fine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommymilkies Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I don't see anything in that thread that is problematic? I don't see any large blocks of quotes or anything like that? I think short quotes, particularly from books that are being critiqued are fine? I saw some quotes without links. They may have been fixed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 RE going back years and years...I have asked for further guidance from a Power That Is, and here's the take: Don't worry so much about past quotes/text. But photos, ESPECIALLY CELEBRITY PHOTOS, need to come down. Even if you put your own caption on a photo of Ryan Gosling, the photo itself is owned by someone who may very well accuse you/us of copyright infringement. Hm, a lot of these are going to be in locked threads. How do reported posts show up to you? Should we only report our own posts? Do you have to go through each report? For example, if 50 of us report the same Ryan Gosling photo, is that more work than if only 1 of us reported it? Sorry that it is an issue!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 If you want to see what pics you've uploaded, go to My Settings / Manage Attachments. Delete all that apply. They will disappear from any posts in which you used them. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klmama Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I just figured out a way to go back farther into the past than just a "My Content" search. Using the advanced search feature, you can search each of the individual boards for all posts from Jan. 1, 2008 through the oldest date you found when you used the "My Content" search. If that maxes out at 1000, you might need to adjust dates again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I saw some quotes without links. They may have been fixed? I think as long as they are short and within the context of an ongoing discussion about the same thing, then they should be fine. Many of the quotes without links still had the author and title listed. The latter is what is really required from a copywriter standpoint. They would be more problematic if there were big blocks of text. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 If you want to see what pics you've uploaded, go to My Settings / Manage Attachments. Delete all that apply. That's only if you've actually uploaded them. Are only uploaded photos a problem? If we click on the little photo icon, then paste in a link, we haven't uploaded it, we're basically just hot linking it. Hot linking is *definitely* more traceable than uploading. eta: For example, the pineapple pic was hot linked, so it wasn't in my attachments. BUT, I did find a Ewan McGregor photo there to delete! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Wise Bauer Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 The quotes are not really the big problem, so don't fret too much about them. Go ahead and report celeb photos. Don't worry so much about photos taken from catalogs or online stores. Actually, no, posting a comic or photo with attribution is STILL a problem. Much better to provide a link to the original source than to copy and paste. Basically, any time you copy and paste an image...stop and think first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad astra Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 So sad to lose my avatar... (that is from a Japanese picture book for toddlers) :crying: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The quotes are not really the big problem, so don't fret too much about them. Go ahead and report celeb photos. Don't worry so much about photos taken from catalogs or online stores. Actually, no, posting a comic or photo with attribution is STILL a problem. Much better to provide a link to the original source than to copy and paste. Basically, any time you copy and paste an image...stop and think first. Susan, is posting photos via the little photo icon an issue? I *think* it works by the original photo being hosted on its original host and the photo image that appears in the post is just hot linked. It doesn't provide a link in the post, but nobody is actually copying and pasting the photo. I think this is probably how most photos are shared in the forum because we are only given a very limited amount of storage space for uploading our own photos. I *know* that hot linking is more traceable than actually copying and pasting, but it also isn't stealing the photo. I also know that some websites can get very mad about people hot linking to their sites because it affects their bandwidth. Do you know if this is an issue in this case? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardening momma Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 What about those ecards things that are made with a stock image & you add your own text? Like this: http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/463070-weight-loss-funnies/?p=4819106 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane in NC Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Susan, Another question about the book threads. We often include a photo of the cover of the book we are reading/discussing. Is this permissible? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 If there's a way for the mods to look back over a list of locked threads specifically, then I'm guessing that might be a good way to find many of the celebs in kilts photos and many of the cupcake photos. I know I've done photos a few times over the years but I can only remember a photo of long division examples from last week... Off to remove... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel Mertz Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Phooey. Ethel is losing her picture... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithManor Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Susan, only 40 pages of content showed up. I have nearly 9700 posts. So, this got me back as far as the last week of April 2014. I probably need to go a lot further back. Is the rest of it archived? If so, how do we get access? If it is archived, would it be possible for one of your computer gurus to run a quick program that searches for and deletes all photos? I am sure the pictures are the number one issue, and past April, no one is really going to go look them up anyway nor are they going to be pivotal to some ongoing discussion where editing would be necessary in order to continue the thread. Just a thought. I'm not took tech savvy and have no idea how to get back any further. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenNC Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 OK, I've scrubbed anything that might be remotely an issue (ie *any* quoted text, didn't have any vids or photos), but was only able to get back through April of 2013---reckon I talk a lot? :) If there's a way to go farther back, I'll be glad to do so. I don't post photos because I never figured out how. Sounds like that was a good thing! Do social groups show up in the regular forum search for content? Is there a way to search those? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milovany Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Susan, is posting photos via the little photo icon an issue? I *think* it works by the original photo being hosted on its original host and the photo image that appears in the post is just hot linked. It doesn't provide a link in the post, but nobody is actually copying and pasting the photo. When using that little icon, more often than using the photo's original link at the website where it was posted, I've saved the photo to my computer, uploaded it to my Photobucket account, and then used the link they give me for that photo. So it can be used in more than one way. I see now this is a no-no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Hey Girl, All the Gosling photos I added are gone. :gnorsi: 43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommymilkies Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Ok, if you google welltrainedmind cupcake or welltrainedmind kilt and look at Images, you can find a bunch. Just do that and report? I'm sure there are more categories. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FO4UR Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 To review your posts, click on your name in the upper right of any page, under By Content Type check Forums, under See This Member's check Only Posts. You can then page through your posts and skim them to see if there are quotes or pictures included. To edit a post (as there is no edit button in this view), click on the post number, which will show that post in context and with an edit button. (In Chrome you can right-click, which will open a new tab, so you can work in the new tab then close it and continue reviewing your posts in the original tab.) I did this. It didn't take long, but it only went back so far...40 pages of my posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klmama Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Susan, only 40 pages of content showed up. I have nearly 9700 posts. So, this got me back as far as the last week of April 2014. I probably need to go a lot further back. Is the rest of it archived? If so, how do we get access? If it is archived, would it be possible for one of your computer gurus to run a quick program that searches for and deletes all photos? I am sure the pictures are the number one issue, and past April, no one is really going to go look them up anyway nor are they going to be pivotal to some ongoing discussion where editing would be necessary in order to continue the thread. Just a thought. I'm not took tech savvy and have no idea how to get back any further. Use the advanced search feature (click the cog thing next to the search box) and input your name as the author and the dates you want to search. You can further refine it by choosing which boards to search, if that helps in any way. This type of search doesn't make your actual post fully visible, though; you have to click on the link and scroll to find what you posted. HTH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Phooey. Ethel is losing her picture... This Ethel already lost hers, but my kiddo made me a new one. http://www.tuxpaint.org/ This might also be useful for someone else, but no Ethel. :( http://search.creativecommons.org/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommymilkies Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I just became that annoying person who reported a thousand things. Sorry bout that. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Wise Bauer Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 That's OK. I appreciate the help! However...you only need to report each thread once--if there's one photo in it, I scan the thread to make sure it wasn't "quoted," so I'll see others. Additional answers... Don't worry about going back years and years when you search your own posts, but if anyone sees celebrity photos ANYWHERE, please report. Hotlinking isn't an issue. Some of the threads were so photo-laden that I took them down instead of editing. Sorry...but it's turning into a long day. :drool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandylubug Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 That's OK. I appreciate the help! However...you only need to report each thread once--if there's one photo in it, I scan the thread to make sure it wasn't "quoted," so I'll see others. ha ha, WHOOPS. Your reports were significant in the yoga pants thread due to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Wise Bauer Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 What is it with you guys and Benedict Cumberbatch????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I still haven't found Free or Open Source Ethel, but here are Lucy and Viv anyway: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:I_Love_Lucy_Cast.JPG and a place to search Creative Commons images for avatars: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommymilkies Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 ha ha, WHOOPS. Your reports were significant in the yoga pants thread due to me. Uh oh. Me, too. Sorry! Some threads were long, so I thought reporting individual posts where the pictures are would be easier for you. What is it with you guys and Benedict Cumberbatch????? Isn't it obvious? :D 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkyandtheBrains. Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 What is it with you guys and Benedict Cumberbatch????? Is this a trick question? 33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 What is it with you guys and Benedict Cumberbatch????? Haha, I can't be blamed for those. I probably have a lot of Ewan McGregor pics to remove though. Sorry. I do think they are mostly hot linked. There was only one in my attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrightmom Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Did my best to peruse my posts and edit a couple of things. I don't think I've ever posted a picture. Phew! But, I had to delete my beloved avatar. BUMMER! Now I'm a faceless, colorless, blah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiguirre Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 How do I change my avatar pic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekland Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I think I'm ok as I'm not at all into celebrities. If someone notices anything, please let me know... My avatar is mine, ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Wife Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 If you want to see what pics you've uploaded, go to My Settings / Manage Attachments. Delete all that apply. They will disappear from any posts in which you used them. Will this work for photos we posted into the body of a text? I did not realize that photos published in the news media were problematic to post. I thought that since the pictures were already "out there" for everyone to view that they were fair game. Definitely did not intend to cause trouble for SWB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Will this work for photos we posted into the body of a text? It will only work for attachments. If you hotlinked it via the photo icon, then I am reading Susan's post as saying that those photos are not an issue? But, I am not positive I am reading correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 How do I change my avatar pic? Go to your profile. Click on "edit profile". There's a rather ambiguous button that says "edit photo". Click on that and it will bring up a window where you can change or delete your avatar. You can upload directly to the site if you shrink your pic down small enough. I use this: http://www.gimp.org/ and it's Image>Scale Image and from there you can see how many pixels and adjust accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grover Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 What is it with you guys and Benedict Cumberbatch????? do you even need to ask? Argh, I have no idea who anyone is anymore with these disappearing avatars! I have checked but I think I'm ok. Would love to know what's behind all this when the furore dies down. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastian (a lady) Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 That's OK. I appreciate the help! However...you only need to report each thread once--if there's one photo in it, I scan the thread to make sure it wasn't "quoted," so I'll see others. Additional answers... Don't worry about going back years and years when you search your own posts, but if anyone sees celebrity photos ANYWHERE, please report. Hotlinking isn't an issue. Some of the threads were so photo-laden that I took them down instead of editing. Sorry...but it's turning into a long day. :drool: I had pretty good results searching :welltrainedmind.com [insert name of celebrity or kilts] Then I clicked on images. I can click on the images that look like a problem. That gives me the name of the thread. Right click to open in a new tab. It's easy to see if it's a new (to me) thread or one that I've already reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKL Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 How can I find the posts on which I've copied stuff from another site? I've copied statistics and such at various times. Maybe other stuff. But over the years and over 11,000 posts, I won't remember them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel Mertz Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I googled "public domain pictures of Ethel Mertz" and got this one. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammi K Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 What is it with you guys and Benedict Cumberbatch????? do you REALLY have to ask???? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shage Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 do you even need to ask? Argh, I have no idea who anyone is anymore with these disappearing avatars! I have checked but I think I'm ok. Would love to know what's behind all this when the furore dies down. Likely paparazzi or a celebrity photographer or a site like TMZ. They take the copyright issues very seriously, otherwise it kills the price of the image. Most celebrities don't care one way or the other because any exposure = good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 What is it with you guys and Benedict Cumberbatch????? Oh Susan, Susan... do you really need me to explain it to you? We're all adults here. No, really, don't you want me to explain it? A nice long essay with lots of adjective and pictur... darn. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasmama Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 So grateful I am not a picture poster....my avatar is my own feet taken by my own self. Not much of a link poster, either. In fact, I contribute nothing but raucous humor. :D Carry on. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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