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Dh and I just got Fitbits offered at a discount at his work.

 

So is there anything "magic" about 10,000 steps per day? Does it come out of any research or did someone just pick a nice fat round random number as the target?  I'm enjoying the Fitbit and can see that a typical day of cleaning, shopping, etc. will easily get me to 10,000 steps, but I'll have to be more thoughtful on days when I have more sit-down work to do.

 

So anyone know? Why 10,000 and not 8,000? Why 10,000 and not 12,000? Why 10,000?

 

Inquiring minds want to know!

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it actually does vary with age and gender.

 

we have a large arts and crafts fair here (it draws artists from all over the country.), so I downloaded a pedometer to my phone so I could start tracking.  even walking all over the fair (which is actually three separate fairs in close proximity.), I only got to 9500.

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One of the creators of FitBit, an amateur archeologist, discovered an ancient Mayan codex in the Yucatan jungles. Upon translating it, he learned that the Mayans (who were excellent mathematicians), had calculated the precise number of steps (10,000, of course) to achieve harmony within the cyclical nature of time...

 

Wait, no, wrong prophecy... 

 

Once upon a time, in the kingdom of Arendelle, a princess named Elsa was born with a predisposition to turning everything to ice. After creating an endless winter and fleeing to the forbidden forest, she met a singing snowman named Olaf, who coincidentally knew that if she would just walk 10,000 steps in a counterclockwise direction, she could undo winter and Let It Go. Well, if 10,000 steps can fix global cooling, it could help anyone, right?

 

Sorry, wrong fairytale...

 

According to traditional Chinese medicine (which Western doctors are coming to realize is more than quackery), the number 10,000 had special healing properties. For example, 10,000 deep breaths will help achieve the mental calm necessary to face your DC when they awake. Likewise, 10,000 steps will give you the physical power to keep up with those same DC.

 

I really had to do something while I waited for the coffee to brew. 

 
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My thought is that the idea behind it is sound...to be more active, move more. I think 10,000 was chosen as a nice round number. 10K steps/5 miles is achievable for most people but requires you to be somewhat active and not at a desk all day. 

 

I try not to think of 10K as so magic but more try to see myself increasing my steps. When I first started wearing a FitBit I got a lot less steps on average, that made me walk more, I get more, I like the gratification on FitBit, I move more, etc. 

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I reset my goal to 8000, as I found an article somewhere that suggested that, lol. Anyway, I found out that on a day when I don't actually intentionally do things to get the step count up, I only get in about 2500 steps. Was very shocking to find out! But the little booger really does motivate me and makes me actually try to up that step count each day! Especially when competing with my friend and hers.  :)

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Also it's really common to recommend to either cut your calories by 500 per day or increase your exercise by 500 per day in order to loose approximately one pound per week.  Most people burn approximately 100 calories per mile, so 5000 steps is approximately 500 calories, which is much easier for most people to add into their day than running 5 miles.

 

If you keep an accurate food diary for a few weeks (including measuring everything you eat), figure out your average calorie intake, and then lower it by 500 calories per day AND do 5000 steps per day you'll lose approximately 2 pounds per week or 100 pounds in a year!  Since most people are not 100 pounds overweight and most people could cut out 500 calories they don't enjoy that much, or even 700 calories and have a 200 calorie piece of chocolate as a treat each day, combining the two is a simple way to reach your ideal weight in less than a year.

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I've never seen a Fitbit, but am interested - especially if it includes a silent alarm.  Has anyone used that?

 

On this page (scroll down) there seems to be a Fitbit that has a digital watch face, but I can't find that product.  Am I misreading the picture?  I like to wear a watch, so would prefer to combine the two.

 

L

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I've never seen a Fitbit, but am interested - especially if it includes a silent alarm.  Has anyone used that?

 

On this page (scroll down) there seems to be a Fitbit that has a digital watch face, but I can't find that product.  Am I misreading the picture?  I like to wear a watch, so would prefer to combine the two.

 

L

 

Get this one instead. It can be used as a watch. None of the fitbits can. http://mashable.com/2014/01/06/vivofit-fitness-tracker-garmin/

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From the article Melmichigan linked:

 

The Japanese first started using the 10,000 steps a day number, as part of a marketing campaign! (to help sell pedometers).  â€¦

I found this quote very interesting.

 

 

10,000 steps a day is a rough equivalent to the Surgeon General’s recommendation to accumulate 30 minutes of activity most days of the week.

 

And this one  :eek: ! I get about 3000 steps in 30  minutes. Yesterday It took me almost an hour and a half to get 9170 steps. My total steps yesterday were 11791.

 

I don't use a fitbit, but my pedometer is the best fitness tool I've ever bought.

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I think someone on this forum posted an article about a cardiologist's opinion on the 10k thing about a year or so ago. Maybe a better searcher (or someone in a different time zone) would be able to find the link.

Perhaps you're thinking of me, I did share that a while back. My cardiologist told me that it didn't matter how many thousands of steps I took, if I didn't have at least one twenty continuous minute period daily at a fast pace that challenged and strengthened my cardiovascular system. He said strolling my way to 10,000 steps would not specifically benefit my heart, though it did beat lying on the sofa.

 

I have a pedometer, plus a heart rate monitor to use for the active exercise period.

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Get this one instead. It can be used as a watch. None of the fitbits can. http://mashable.com/2014/01/06/vivofit-fitness-tracker-garmin/

 

Thanks for that.  I really like the silent alarm though, which the Garmin doesn't seem to have.  Sigh.  I have to sleep with ear plugs, and right now my alarm clock is Husband setting his then waking me, which is not ideal....  Maybe I'll get a Fitbit and wear it on my right wrist, and keep wearing a watch on my left.

 

Thanks again

 

L

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I've never seen a Fitbit, but am interested - especially if it includes a silent alarm.  Has anyone used that?

 

On this page (scroll down) there seems to be a Fitbit that has a digital watch face, but I can't find that product.  Am I misreading the picture?  I like to wear a watch, so would prefer to combine the two.

 

L

 

My fitbit one has a clock, but no alarms.

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From the article Melmichigan linked:

 

I found this quote very interesting.

 

 

And this one  :eek: ! I get about 3000 steps in 30  minutes. Yesterday It took me almost an hour and a half to get 9170 steps. My total steps yesterday were 11791.

 

I don't use a fitbit, but my pedometer is the best fitness tool I've ever bought.

 

one niece has a fitbit, the other a pedometer.  the one with the fitbit was lusting after her sister's pedometer.

 

there are a lot of cool pedometer apps for both android and iphone.  and they're free.

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I've had good pedometers before, but my Fitbit is so much more motivating than those were. I've had many evenings where I would have just gone to bed, but instead walked around my house because I was only 500 steps away from 10,000. Hey, that's 500 steps more than I would have gotten! The phone notifications are a major benefit, and there's a social component where you can cheer and compete with others.

 

I bought my Fitbit a year and a half ago, and it's still going strong. I wear it every single day. I would wear the pedometer for a few days at best, then forget it. I have the One model, and the sleep tracker was neat at first but I don't use it anymore. I would just go with the $60 model next time.

 

Interesting for me to hear that a cardiologist says incidental walking won't do a thing without a concentrated walking session. I thought the latest research said you needed both, that sitting too much is equivalent to being a regular smoker, even with intense daily cardio sessions. All I know is I need BOTH kinds to get to 10K a day.

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From the article Melmichigan linked:

 

I found this quote very interesting.

 

 

And this one  :eek: ! I get about 3000 steps in 30  minutes. Yesterday It took me almost an hour and a half to get 9170 steps. My total steps yesterday were 11791.

 

I don't use a fitbit, but my pedometer is the best fitness tool I've ever bought.

 

yep.

 

I thought that with the farm, I was fairly active. But I was wrong.

 

I've started moving more on a daily basis, and the pedometer helps me track how active I've been in a particular day.

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Perhaps you're thinking of me, I did share that a while back. My cardiologist told me that it didn't matter how many thousands of steps I took, if I didn't have at least one twenty continuous minute period daily at a fast pace that challenged and strengthened my cardiovascular system. He said strolling my way to 10,000 steps would not specifically benefit my heart, though it did beat lying on the sofa.

 

I have a pedometer, plus a heart rate monitor to use for the active exercise period.

 

But it is good for things other than your heart.  I hate the way specialists are so focused on only their specialty.  Many forms of cancer are correlated positively with more sitting, so walking helps decrease those odds.  Walking increases joint mobility and muscular strength and engages your core and gets air flowing into and out of your body at a higher rate than sitting. It burns more calories than sitting. It is ideal to do that *and* add in some heart-rate boosting, high intensity activity daily as well.

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I've never seen a Fitbit, but am interested - especially if it includes a silent alarm.  Has anyone used that?

 

On this page (scroll down) there seems to be a Fitbit that has a digital watch face, but I can't find that product.  Am I misreading the picture?  I like to wear a watch, so would prefer to combine the two.

 

L

 

I think they pulled that one from the market because it was causing skin reactions.

 

https://amiigo.com/ looks really really interesting and potentially way more useful than the FitBit, but it doesn't have a watch, either.

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Thanks for that.  I really like the silent alarm though, which the Garmin doesn't seem to have.  Sigh.  I have to sleep with ear plugs, and right now my alarm clock is Husband setting his then waking me, which is not ideal....  Maybe I'll get a Fitbit and wear it on my right wrist, and keep wearing a watch on my left.

 

Thanks again

 

L

  Fitbit One has silents alarms.  You wear the fitbit in an arm band at night.  You can set up the silent alarms online or on the app.  I use mine every night.  I hated the sound of the alarm.  I LOVE the silent, gentle vibration of the silent alarm.

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I kind of think 10,000 is a minimum, when you consider optimal health. I bet our active fore parents (and those who are consistently active throughout the day today) get way more than 10,000, and I bet they felt better for it. I asked Katy Bowman how many steps she gets but I haven't gotten an answer yet. :)

 

David Sedaris on Fitbit.

 

L

 

That was so funny. I can't imagine 65,000 steps.

 

Thanks for that.  I really like the silent alarm though, which the Garmin doesn't seem to have.  Sigh.  I have to sleep with ear plugs, and right now my alarm clock is Husband setting his then waking me, which is not ideal....  Maybe I'll get a Fitbit and wear it on my right wrist, and keep wearing a watch on my left.

 

Thanks again

 

L

 

I wear both my Fitbit Flex and my watch on my left arm--when I wear my watch. It works for me!

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But it is good for things other than your heart.  I hate the way specialists are so focused on only their specialty.  Many forms of cancer are correlated positively with more sitting, so walking helps decrease those odds.  Walking increases joint mobility and muscular strength and engages your core and gets air flowing into and out of your body at a higher rate than sitting. It burns more calories than sitting. It is ideal to do that *and* add in some heart-rate boosting, high intensity activity daily as well.

 

It also boosts creativity.

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Do stores carry Fitbit or can you only get them online? My dad's birthday is in 3 days so I don't have time to wait for the shipping. My fault, of course, for taking so long to decide on what to get him. It wasn't until last night as I was falling asleep it finally dawned on me that he'd love a Fitbit.

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Do stores carry Fitbit or can you only get them online? My dad's birthday is in 3 days so I don't have time to wait for the shipping. My fault, of course, for taking so long to decide on what to get him. It wasn't until last night as I was falling asleep it finally dawned on me that he'd love a Fitbit.

 

 

I'm not sure if they are sold in stores, but Amazon prime might get to you in time.  

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Do stores carry Fitbit or can you only get them online? My dad's birthday is in 3 days so I don't have time to wait for the shipping. My fault, of course, for taking so long to decide on what to get him. It wasn't until last night as I was falling asleep it finally dawned on me that he'd love a Fitbit.

 

We found them at Costco, so I'm sure they're elsewhere too.

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Do stores carry Fitbit or can you only get them online? My dad's birthday is in 3 days so I don't have time to wait for the shipping. My fault, of course, for taking so long to decide on what to get him. It wasn't until last night as I was falling asleep it finally dawned on me that he'd love a Fitbit.

 

I got my Zip at Walgreens. I'm not sure if they have all the models for sale there.

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Perhaps you're thinking of me, I did share that a while back. My cardiologist told me that it didn't matter how many thousands of steps I took, if I didn't have at least one twenty continuous minute period daily at a fast pace that challenged and strengthened my cardiovascular system. He said strolling my way to 10,000 steps would not specifically benefit my heart, though it did beat lying on the sofa.

 

I have a pedometer, plus a heart rate monitor to use for the active exercise period.

 

I understand it to be a both/and. Recent research is showing that the aerobic time can be split into 10 min chunks with the same effects as a 30 min chunk, showing that HIIT is the best for getting rid of fat and training the heart, and showing that sedentary behavior is awful, so that we need to be moving at least once or twice per hour, even if for only a few minutes during that hour.

 

Perhaps it's a matter of semantics, but 10,000 steps is a major improvement over lying on the sofa or sitting at a desk because it means you're up and on your feet for a significant number of minutes per day. The bad news is time at the gym apparently does not counter the effects of inactivity. Here's a link to an article on the Mayo Clinic website: http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/adult-health/expert-answers/sitting/faq-20058005 .  That article doesn't have the level of scientific detail that I prefer, but people can use it to google more specific results of the study. So the more salient question might be whether 10,000 steps is better than standing for the same length of time as it took to walk that far over the course of a day.

 

I was someone who fit into the category of "sit at a computer for most of the day and put in a couple hours at the gym."  So now I'm adding in the Fitbit to help me track and keep me motivated re: just getting up and moving over the course of the day. I've had a period where I didn't have to sit for many hours per day, but I  forsee having to sit down more again in the near future, so I do still wonder how many steps is enough when combined with the gym.

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There's science to back up both points mentioned in this thread.  I have a fitbit, I use it to monitor my total steps per day.  I use a HRM to monitor my cardio.  My fitbit was a healthy living requirement last year because my BMI was too high for my height (I'd shrunk!).  I'll admit that I'm not as good about it this year (I'm not being formally monitored this year), but I never was over the summer, more in the fall and winter when I was apt to sit around.  I will admit to knowing people online who are awful when it comes to competition with the badges, but to each their own. 

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I understand it to be a both/and. Recent research is showing that the aerobic time can be split into 10 min chunks with the same effects as a 30 min chunk, showing that HIIT is the best for getting rid of fat and training the heart, and showing that sedentary behavior is awful, so that we need to be moving at least once or twice per hour, even if for only a few minutes during that hour.

 

Perhaps it's a matter of semantics, but 10,000 steps is a major improvement over lying on the sofa or sitting at a desk because it means you're up and on your feet for a significant number of minutes per day. The bad news is time at the gym apparently does not counter the effects of inactivity. Here's a link to an article on the Mayo Clinic website: http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/adult-health/expert-answers/sitting/faq-20058005 .  That article doesn't have the level of scientific detail that I prefer, but people can use it to google more specific results of the study. So the more salient question might be whether 10,000 steps is better than standing for the same length of time as it took to walk that far over the course of a day.

 

I was someone who fit into the category of "sit at a computer for most of the day and put in a couple hours at the gym."  So now I'm adding in the Fitbit to help me track and keep me motivated re: just getting up and moving over the course of the day. I've had a period where I didn't have to sit for many hours per day, but I  forsee having to sit down more again in the near future, so I do still wonder how many steps is enough when combined with the gym.

There was a big study within one company with the treadmill desks that might be what you are looking for.  They compared treadmill desk, standing/walking at a counter height desk, and working at a traditional desk. The results were interesting in that they did a detailed breakdown with each participant.

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Perhaps you're thinking of me, I did share that a while back. My cardiologist told me that it didn't matter how many thousands of steps I took, if I didn't have at least one twenty continuous minute period daily at a fast pace that challenged and strengthened my cardiovascular system. He said strolling my way to 10,000 steps would not specifically benefit my heart, though it did beat lying on the sofa.

 

I have a pedometer, plus a heart rate monitor to use for the active exercise period.

My DH's cardiologist at the Cleveland Clinic told him the ideal breakfast is an orange and a bowl of high fiber cereal. Umm, with that breakfast, my blood sugar would hit the roof and I would gain a large amount of weight (so would most Americans). I'm starting to ignore doctors more often then not.

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My DH's cardiologist at the Cleveland Clinic told him the ideal breakfast is an orange and a bowl of high fiber cereal. Umm, with that breakfast, my blood sugar would hit the roof and I would gain a large amount of weight (so would most Americans). I'm starting to ignore doctors more often then not.

 

That's my standard breakfast, although it might be a peach or an apple.  I don't know about most Americans/Brits, but I've not been in the overweight category in my life.

 

L

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Perhaps you're thinking of me, I did share that a while back. My cardiologist told me that it didn't matter how many thousands of steps I took, if I didn't have at least one twenty continuous minute period daily at a fast pace that challenged and strengthened my cardiovascular system. He said strolling my way to 10,000 steps would not specifically benefit my heart, though it did beat lying on the sofa.

 

I have a pedometer, plus a heart rate monitor to use for the active exercise period.

 

I understand it to be a both/and. Recent research that I've read seems to show that  1)  aerobic time can be split into 10 min chunks with the same effects as a 30 min chunk, 2) but that the best for the heart and weight loss is HIIT,  3) but also shows that sedentary behavior is awful and can't be counteracted by the gym, so that we need to be moving at least once or twice per hour, even if for only a few minutes during that hour.

 

Perhaps it's a matter of semantics, but 10,000 steps is a major improvement over lying on the sofa or sitting at a desk because it means you're up and on your feet for a significant number of minutes per day. The bad news is time at the gym apparently does not counter the effects of inactivity. Here's a link to an article on the Mayo Clinic website: http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/adult-health/expert-answers/sitting/faq-20058005 .  That article doesn't have the level of scientific detail that I prefer, but people can use it to google more specific results of the study. So the more salient question might be whether 10,000 steps is better than standing for the same length of time as it took to walk that far over the course of a day.

 

I was someone who fit into the category of "sit at a computer for most of the day and put in a couple hours at the gym."  So now I'm adding in the Fitbit to help me track and keep me motivated re: just getting up and moving over the course of the day. I've had a period where I didn't have to sit for many hours per day, but I  forsee having to sit down more again in the near future, so I do still wonder how many steps is enough when combined with the gym.

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My DH's cardiologist at the Cleveland Clinic told him the ideal breakfast is an orange and a bowl of high fiber cereal. Umm, with that breakfast, my blood sugar would hit the roof and I would gain a large amount of weight (so would most Americans). I'm starting to ignore doctors more often then not.

 

Just for a different perspective, this has been my usual breakfast for the last 50-plus years, and I'm definitely not in the overweight category.

 

Anne

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My husband and I have Fitbit Flexes, we like them.  I also have a zip but found it a pain to move from my pocket.  The flex is just on my wrist 24/7 unless it needs charging. I have used the silent alarm and it scared the dickens out of me that first day. LOL  My husband's coworker has the Fitbit Force which does have a clock, but there were some issues with it so I haven't seen one on the shelves in some time. 

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Perhaps you're thinking of me, I did share that a while back. My cardiologist told me that it didn't matter how many thousands of steps I took, if I didn't have at least one twenty continuous minute period daily at a fast pace that challenged and strengthened my cardiovascular system. He said strolling my way to 10,000 steps would not specifically benefit my heart, though it did beat lying on the sofa.

 

I have a pedometer, plus a heart rate monitor to use for the active exercise period.

That is what I remembered!

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