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#1 poppy

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Posted 28 June 2014 - 09:24 PM

I now have 4 friends shilling this health & beauty line.

I get Facebook posts about it. And I get 'stealth' Facebook posts about it: gosh did you know most other products can kill you? Here's a link! So glad I switched....

I get invited to online "parties"
I get invited to house parties.
I have been asked ”hey have you thought about hosting a party? "
No!! Why would I do that?

Why is it ok to prey on your friends for your income ? And to make it about how most health & beauty products people use are toxic just adds a whole new layer of shamelessness. Oh friend I need to save you by educating you about your deadly moisturizer. And by the way I am selling the way to save yourself !

And I can't even vent online at my usual haunts about how obnoxious I find it because *they are all there*!
Ugh.
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Posted 28 June 2014 - 09:34 PM

On my FB feed it is Nerium skin care. I feel the same as you do. Someone just friended me on FB so she could invite me to her Nerium party. No thanks.
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Posted 28 June 2014 - 09:35 PM

Advocare on mine
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Posted 28 June 2014 - 09:38 PM

I have unfriended people on Facebook after they continued to ignored my request that they not try to sell me stuff.
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#5 Jean in Newcastle

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Posted 28 June 2014 - 09:52 PM

I've never heard of it.  Is this some stealth way of getting me to google it?!   :lol:


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Posted 28 June 2014 - 09:56 PM

Also Plexus.
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Posted 28 June 2014 - 10:02 PM

I have a friend  (who I have not really interacted with for at least 6 yrs) who just started selling skin care. Now this line is all over my new feed. Thanks pal.

 

I was invited to a 'party' and after I ignored the invite I was messaged "hey are you going to come? It'll be so much fun!" I didn't want to mislead her so I politely wrote back ' while I totally support you in your new venture, I am not in the market for new skin care. Best of luck though!'

 

Just shoot me on the Advocare stuff. I have a friend who brings it up every single time I see her. I am not buying any! Stop asking!

 

I totally feel your pain.



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Posted 28 June 2014 - 10:05 PM

Just got the second party invitation in a week from my new FB friend. Ironic.

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Posted 28 June 2014 - 10:17 PM

Remember when it was all amway, melaleuca, and Tupperware? The Internet has spawned so many annoying clones!
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Posted 28 June 2014 - 10:18 PM

Well, that just totally stinks. 

 

DD had a tutor that started trying to sell us on these magnetic bracelets.  I let her give me the spiel once then politely indicated we were not interested.  Every.single.time I dropped DD off she would bring it up.  Then she started pitching it to DD so when we were driving home DD would tell me she needed one to be healthy.  DD was 8.  We stopped going to that tutor.  Ugh!  At least she wasn't bombarding me on Facebook....



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Posted 28 June 2014 - 10:22 PM

DoTerra Essential Oils. No. Just no.
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Posted 28 June 2014 - 11:49 PM

Yep, but it's not that bad anymore. I put the worst people on important stuff only. 

 

I did have one friend who went so far as send me a private IM hinting that my son wouldn't have his medical difficulty if we tried her nutritional product. I did have to unfriend her. I think she probably didn't mean it the way it turned out but the second time she sent an IM in that vein I was far too emotional to leave myself open to anymore. 


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#13 Arctic Mama

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Posted 28 June 2014 - 11:52 PM

As long as I know the host I don't have a problem going. I've gone to many parties and bought nothing, but enjoyed the company and evening out. I've told the hosts flat out when I'm not planning to purchase and they often are the ones who have encouraged me to attend anyway. And occasionally I'm pleasantly surprised by the company and purchase items, like with Thirty One. I actually hosted a party which I thought I'd never do, because my friend was a new consultant and I needed some bags/storage items for homeschooling. It ended up being a good deal for me.

I also completely eschew Facebook and Twitter, so any invitations to this sort of thing are in person which helps immensely to cut down on the annoyance ;)
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Posted 29 June 2014 - 12:02 AM

As long as I know the host I don't have a problem going. I've gone to many parties and bought nothing, but enjoyed the company and evening out. I've told the hosts flat out when I'm not planning to purchase and they often are the ones who have encouraged me to attend anyway. And occasionally I'm pleasantly surprised by the company and purchase items, like with Thirty One. I actually hosted a party which I thought I'd never do, because my friend was a new consultant and I needed some bags/storage items for homeschooling. It ended up being a good deal for me.

I also completely eschew Facebook and Twitter, so any invitations to this sort of thing are in person which helps immensely to cut down on the annoyance ;)

Oh I wouldn't think so. A facebook invite you can ignore, in person it's impolite to not an answer.
Awkward.
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Posted 29 June 2014 - 12:07 AM

Yep, but it's not that bad anymore. I put the worst people on important stuff only. 

 

I did have one friend who went so far as send me a private IM hinting that my son wouldn't have his medical difficulty if we tried her nutritional product. I did have to unfriend her. I think she probably didn't mean it the way it turned out but the second time she sent an IM in that vein I was far to emotional to leave myself open to anymore. 

 

Whoa.  Yeah, that's well beyond tacky!


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#16 Arctic Mama

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 12:13 AM

Oh I wouldn't think so. A facebook invite you can ignore, in person it's impolite to not an answer.
Awkward.

But they're friends? If it was a stranger that would be a little more odd. I just don't find conversations with friends awkward. And if I can't or don't want to go I'll just decline and we'll be on our merry way, no hard feelings. But it's rare I do that, because what's not to like about an evening over at someone's home with chatting, food, and a few catalogs?

I've been pleasantly surprised, actually. I used to decline more and now I just show up and have a good time, with no pressure to purchase. But I'm stubborn like that :)

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 12:37 AM

Over the years I have perfected my rejection of these wonderful offers. " I don't buy from multilevel marketers. "

 Rinse and repeat.  Lost out on some "wonderful" friendships but that is their problem, not mine.  Ick.  


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 12:41 AM

But they're friends? If it was a stranger that would be a little more odd. I just don't find conversations with friends awkward. And if I can't or don't want to go I'll just decline and we'll be on our merry way, no hard feelings. But it's rare I do that, because what's not to like about an evening over at someone's home with chatting, food, and a few catalogs?

I've been pleasantly surprised, actually. I used to decline more and now I just show up and have a good time, with no pressure to purchase. But I'm stubborn like that :)

 

I don't view it as chatting, food, and a few catalogs. It's a sales event, a commercial. You are essentially watching a live infomercial. 

 

Definitely not my thing, but I realize that some folks enjoy it. I'm not generally fussed to get a straightforward invitation. It does annoy me when people persist after I decline, especially when they say, oh, I don't care about making sales, it's just an excuse to have friends over. I always ask why they need an excuse to have friends over, but no one has ever had an answer, lol. 

 

People trying to engage me in "warm chatter" or pretending that they aren't concerned about making sales, not at all? They make me all stabby. 


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 12:49 AM

If it is medical or even nutritional or in any way "healthy" there is a large dose of stress with those pitches for me.  If the person didn't know that I was chronically ill then I wouldn't feel that way but invariably these pitches are combined with a "if you care about getting better then you will do this" talk.  Of course I care about getting better but not necessarily taking their product.  But saying no to something of that sort is emotional for me and stressful for me because if they keep pressing and I finally snap (even if it is more in frustration and exasperation than anything else) I'm met with a wide-eyed "but I wanted to help you".  The fact that it would help to fatten their own wallet doesn't seem to be acknowledged.  


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 01:06 AM

Hee, I love 31 bags and going to certain Pampered Chef parties, but the people I know who are involved with that are great examples of no/low pressure sales.

 

My feed is a lot of Beachbody and Do Terra. Yuck. 



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 01:31 AM

But they're friends? If it was a stranger that would be a little more odd. I just don't find conversations with friends awkward. And if I can't or don't want to go I'll just decline and we'll be on our merry way, no hard feelings. But it's rare I do that, because what's not to like about an evening over at someone's home with chatting, food, and a few catalogs?

I've been pleasantly surprised, actually. I used to decline more and now I just show up and have a good time, with no pressure to purchase. But I'm stubborn like that :)


I love evenings with friends and chatting and food! But somehow I don't get invitations from any of these friends until there is potential to make money from me. With the implicit promise that if I don't buy something, I at least hold my tongue about how lousy I think the product is.

I want to be liked , not used.
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Posted 29 June 2014 - 01:33 AM

I hate MLM and won't buy anything from a company that uses that marketing strategy.

 

People on my fb sell scentsy.  I like burning oils rather than waxes so no temptation there.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 01:43 AM

I've never heard of it.  Is this some stealth way of getting me to google it?!   :lol:


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:28 AM

I love evenings with friends and chatting and food! But somehow I don't get invitations from any of these friends until there is potential to make money from me. With the implicit promise that if I don't buy something, I at least hold my tongue about how lousy I think the product is.

I want to be liked , not used.


I've never been asked by someone I'm not already close with in other contexts, so that probably makes the difference in feeling used.

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 02:59 AM

I don't go to "home parties."

I know everyone says you don't have to buy anything, but let's face it, the purpose of the party is so the hostess can sell stuff. I would feel incredibly rude if I showed up and didn't place an order, even though the products would almost certainly be things I neither wanted nor needed nor could give away as gifts to unsuspecting friends or relatives.

And let's not forget that if I attend a party, someone will try to talk me into hosting my own party, so I can get lots more of the things I neither want, need, nor can give away -- at a big discount or even for free -- if I can get enough other people to come to my home party and buy a bunch of stuff they don't want, need, or have anyone to whom to give the stuff away.

No.

Just no.
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Posted 29 June 2014 - 03:28 AM

Oh my goodness! My news feed is full of people trying to sell skin care products, fake eyelashes, cosmetics, sex toys, candles, bags, exercise regimens, diet regimens, kitchen products, oils, and more. I am really not a fan of these multilevel marketing schemes and I find it really annoying.
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Posted 29 June 2014 - 03:55 AM

I once got invited to a party for a neighbor I have never met face to face. I got excited until I realized it was one of those parties. Any "party" where I feel obligated to spend money shouldn't even be called a party. Unless the spending money part means I show up with food or drink.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 06:20 AM

Mine is young living oils, which if my fb is to believed, cure everything from dyslexia to cancer. Not exaggerating.
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Posted 29 June 2014 - 06:39 AM

I was just telling a friend the other day that I estimate there are no more than five of my FB friends NOT selling an MLM product. It's INSANE.  Young Living oils (which I actually use and like), Mary Kay, 31 bags, Plexus (tried and GAINED WEIGHT), Rodan & Fields facial care stuff, Jamberry nail wraps (tried. They peel off my fingers within 2 days and I was told that was extremely rare and likely due to my body's PH and I should soak my nails in black tea before applying again.  Um, no. How about I not apply again and we're all happy?), Melaleuca, Norwex cleaning products, and the list goes on.  And yes, I've had people specifically message me when I say anything about my son's diagnosis (ADHD) and tell me that their product could cure him.  Sigh. It's really irritating. I actually don't mind trying a product here or there, but I really get annoyed with my FB feed completely full of spam like it is. 


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 07:06 AM

 Multi level marketing makes me insane. I've banned it from the office, no Avon books on the coffee table, no email blasts, no parties here, etc. When we used to go to church, we had to deal with it a lot more. For some reason, it's okay to pass out those flyers and brochures in Sunday School? No. It is not. I don't understand not understanding that the majority of business conducted in Multi level marketing is "obligatory" in that it is family and friends who are only buying the crap because they love the person selling it, not because they feel that it is their favorite way to buy mascara. Advocare is huge here, now. I cannot, simply cannot wait for it to go away. 


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 07:08 AM

The one that REALLY annoys me is "It Works" wraps. I have friends who supposedly "do it for Jesus" (seriously). The real kicker is they are all over weight. If it "works" shouldn't it be working for them?

 

And, no one seems to believe me when I tell them that no, I don't have a "problem area" that I want to fix. I'm happy like this thank you very much, and no, I don't appreciate your assumption that I *must* be unhappy with my body.

 

Argh. Can you tell that one REALLY bothers me?


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 07:14 AM

Our chiropractor was putting pressure on us to buy her nutritional products, which she confessed once that she marked them up 100%. This was done after she got us to agree to "Wellness Visits." 

 

Then she started pushing us to become part of Viridian Energy (which sells electric power and is purported to be a greener way of using electricity). Both these things are multi-level marketing. She was really aggressive on both things.

 

She is now our former chiropractor.



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 07:14 AM

The one that REALLY annoys me is "It Works" wraps. I have friends who supposedly "do it for Jesus" (seriously). The real kicker is they are all over weight. If it "works" shouldn't it be working for them?

 

And, no one seems to believe me when I tell them that no, I don't have a "problem area" that I want to fix. I'm happy like this thank you very much, and no, I don't appreciate your assumption that I *must* be unhappy with my body.

 

Argh. Can you tell that one REALLY bothers me?

The wraps JUST DON'T make any sense on any level. One person I know was selling pads that go on the bottom of your feet to soak up toxins. I can't remember what company it was. Nice. 


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 07:21 AM

I don't ever see anything in my feed like what's described here.  I'm really glad about that, but you all are almost making me feel left out.

 

Do I have boring friends?  Unmotivated friends? What's wrong with these people that they aren't trying to sell something??!!!!  :willy_nilly: :willy_nilly: :willy_nilly:


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 07:22 AM

It Works just as much as icy hot and an ace wrap. Yeah, it will suck water out of you for a while and dehydrate you really nice and tighten that skin up. FOR A WHILE. In the military, the wraps are gold for passing a PT test last second (when they tape measure your middle). Tomorrow, you'll be right back to where you started. Unless you want to keep on shelling out 25 bucks a wrap.

 

Icy hot is two bucks.

 

BOTH methoods are bogus, and not healthy at all.

 


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 07:33 AM

Am I the only one that reports the spammy posts as spammy if a friend tries to push them on FB more than 3 times in one day?  Some of these are very close friends so I don't want to block them, but...  The worst example stopped posting about her products so much but got a business page and spams on that constantly.  I suppose after being reported so many times? I don't mind that, I just unfollow.



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 07:41 AM

It Works wraps -- I thought they were a girdle? That's not what it is?

 

I totally thought that people were selling a MLM Spanx.


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 07:48 AM

I have a friend and she was just spamming her business page, which is well and good but now the vast majority of her regular posts are trying to sell now as well. 



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 07:50 AM

Also: do not invite me to your "online party." I'm not foolish enough to believe that your trying to sell me something in someone's home is a "party." I certainly don't consider you sending me an online notice that I can buy from you to be a "party."
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Posted 29 June 2014 - 07:56 AM

I'm glad I don't get too much of that on FB!  A couple of friends have small businesses and their promotions for that get a little old, but it's not that bad.  Someone else sold MLM bags for a while.  While I have personal style, I don't have a good sense of what's trendy and this lady did, so I actually did learn a thing or two. :laugh:   But recently my neighbor friended me and it turns out that she's a brand-new coach for some workout video and energy drink program.  Multiple posts per day, and I don't want to block them and never see her personal updates (sometimes they affect me because I'm next door, plus her kid is just stinking cute).  I'm always getting invitations for their launch party.  Location?  My living room!  Mine!  :huh:  I get that it would only be her coming over to give her spiel, and that it's supposed to be more convenient for me to never have to leave my house.  But...no, just no. 

 

The funny thing is that just yesterday I saw some "top coach" advice: don't use the company logo as your profile picture or cover, because people are so much more interested in you and your personal story!  You'd think it'd be a major clue to them that people only buy this stuff because they like their friend/family/neighbor and want to make them happy.



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 08:18 AM

I rarely see any of these things, so I guess I'm just lucky and don't have a bunch of friends selling things!  I did have one friend selling something that I had interest in, so I approached him.  I tried it, I didn't care for it, and that was it.  

 

I don't mind going to the home party things on occasion.  Sometimes I buy things and sometimes I don't, but I never get offended by the posts or the invitations like some seem to be reporting.  I suppose maybe I would if that was the only thing these "friends" ever wanted to talk to me about.  That would not sit well with me.

 

I also have no problem not buying my friends' kids' school fundraiser items, either, so maybe it's just a difference in personality.  I just never feel pressured by this sort of thing.  (For the record, I stopped allowing my own kids to participate in school fundraisers a few years ago, but that's another story).

 

 



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 08:41 AM

Over the years I have perfected my rejection of these wonderful offers. " I don't buy from multilevel marketers. "

 Rinse and repeat.  Lost out on some "wonderful" friendships but that is their problem, not mine.  Ick.  

 

I love the spirit of this, but "my" multilevel marketer was a mom of my kids' cherished friends. So I listened and listened and listened and just never bought.

 

It was some sort of nutritional supplement. What cracked me up is how she would tout it by saying, "I woke up feeling awful, but took x,y,z and felt amazing."

 

Yeah. It's called caffeine. The product was full of caffeine. (Not that I have anything against my drug.)

 

Alley


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 08:44 AM

I rarely see any of these things, so I guess I'm just lucky and don't have a bunch of friends selling things! I did have one friend selling something that I had interest in, so I approached him. I tried it, I didn't care for it, and that was it.

I don't mind going to the home party things on occasion. Sometimes I buy things and sometimes I don't, but I never get offended by the posts or the invitations like some seem to be reporting. I suppose maybe I would if that was the only thing these "friends" ever wanted to talk to me about. That would not sit well with me.

I also have no problem not buying my friends' kids' school fundraiser items, either, so maybe it's just a difference in personality. I just never feel pressured by this sort of thing. (For the record, I stopped allowing my own kids to participate in school fundraisers a few years ago, but that's another story).

That's exactly how I feel.

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 08:49 AM

I don't get to many of these, but 100% of the ones I do get are either stay-at-home moms or have a very part-time job.  I'm assuming this is so due to those groups looking to supplement income.



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 08:55 AM

Right now in my feed there are at least 3 different supplement/shake companies popping up in my feed daily.  (Advocare, Isogenix, and something else similar.)  Uh, no.  Do you see all my posts about gardening, farmer's markets and trying to cut out chemicals?  I'm happy it works for you.  Looks like cutting out that daily McDonald's/Starbucks/Taco Bell stop had nothing to do with your magical weight loss, it's all about the shake. 

 

Those, along with Norwex and the essential oils.  Ugh.  I can see benefits to the oils, I really can.  But, again, when I say we eat real food, I mean actual food.  I'm going to eat an orange, not add a drop or two of oil to my water.  

 

However, I did "go" to a Facebook party for Usborne books a few weeks ago because I actually needed a few books.  Best party ever.  It was over and done in ten minutes, and I had my books in less than a week.  There was no pressure because it was all via facebook post.  The salesperson would post short videos that I could click on to watch or not.  When she asked if anyone wanted to host a party, it was easy to ignore.  

 


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 08:58 AM

 Looks like cutting out that daily McDonald's/Starbucks/Taco Bell stop had nothing to do with your magical weight loss, it's all about the shake. 

 

 

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 09:02 AM

I honestly have never even heard of many of the things people are posting about here.  Isogenix?  Plexis?  Nail wraps?  Oils?  

 

I'm amazed.  


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 09:07 AM

I honestly have never even heard of many of the things people are posting about here.  Isogenix?  Plexis?  Nail wraps?  Oils?  

 

I'm amazed.  

 

I haven't heard about most of this stuff either, but it just takes one friend who gets hooked by one of these companies and then your friend will tell you all about it.

 

Especially w/ the nutritional supplements it becomes somewhat insulting. . . IMO. . . because the person pushing her nutritional supplement didn't bother to ask me whether I was interested in nutrition. I am. I read a ton on the subject. I looked at the ingredients in her supplement and could see it was the caffeine that was doing the heavy lifting.

 

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 09:18 AM

I've seen a few posts in my feed in the past few months for Jamberry, but only one person sent a PM that felt like a sales pitch. I don't mind if people post about home biz stuff if they don't do it all the time and aren't obnoxious, but it doesn't take much to cross that line. The most annoyed I've ever been was when we were looking through the kids' Halloween candy and found Mary Kay coupons stapled to some candy.
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Posted 29 June 2014 - 09:19 AM

It Works wraps -- I thought they were a girdle? That's not what it is?

 

I totally thought that people were selling a MLM Spanx.

 
Its something you put on for a short period of time that sucks out the water and tightens your skin. You like saran wrap on a pad or something like that. Apparently you can stick 'em wherever, and it will be "like, SO healthy for you" :001_rolleyes: