ElizabethB Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I have thought that it would be great to use the syllable basis and compare and contrast the syllables if you were teaching in multiple languages. Here is a post that I cross posted on the General Education board: I have found what look to be some great books for people interested in teaching their children to read in other languages, but other than Spanish, my language background is not good enough to hunt up more than a book or two. Also, my Spanish is not good enough to describe the differences between the books and evaluate them. In Russian, my web software had a fit and will not even link the books, evidently cyrillic made it go tilt. Here is what I've found so far, I'd appreciate any help from people who speak these or other languages well, I'd like to have a nice collection with short explanations of each book. http://www.thephonicspage.org/On%20Reading/syllableslanguag.html Here are the two books in Russian, maybe they will not tilt here: http://books.google.ru/books?id=nzkVAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA49&dq=азбука+Ñклады&hl=ru&sa=X&ei=nAqvU0XHk6oG1vmBiAQ&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=______%20______&f=false http://books.google.ru/books?id=OcpfAAAAMAAJ&q=от+азбуки+ивана+федорова&dq=от+азбуки+ивана+федорова&hl=ru&sa=X&ei=QA2vU--GIMScyATSsIGQCw&ved=0CBoQ6AEwAA I have a book about Russian primers, most of the good syllabic primers are from the 1800's and contain the word "azbyka." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie_0801 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I know nothing at all, but I've got a set of Arabic alphabet magnets on order at the Muslim shop in town and if he ever tracks down something priced for those of us who aren't Saudi princesses, I'm going to give it a go with dd. I have a list in a book and a friend who knows how to pronounce them all... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElizabethB Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 The first Russian link there is to a primer that teaches the archaic Russian alphabet. The alphabet was simplified and modernized in the early 20th century and the spelling was simplified. The second book is a history of Russian reading methodology/primers. What exactly are you looking for? A book for foreign speakers learning to read in Russian or native Russian speakers? Pretty much 95% or more of reading instruction programs in Russian are phonetic based. There are a few pedagogues who are trying to introduce "whole language" approach but I doubt they'll gain too much traction. I taught my kindergartner to read using this book: http://www.amazon.com/Bukvar-Zhukova-N/dp/5699575510/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1403994105&sr=8-1&keywords=zhukova+bukvar It's a very traditional approach of sounds --> syllables --> words. She does not teach the names of the letters b/c Russian is a one letter one sound language. This method is very close to how I learned to read from an old Azbuka and also resembles the system in an old Azbuka from the 1890s that I have. My almost 3 year old is using this one: http://www.amazon.com/bahtina-Primer-Bakhtina-Bukvar-malyshey/dp/5902726085/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1403994146&sr=8-1&keywords=bahtina+bukvar her method teaches the letter names first, much like in English but then goes to a reading whole syllables so it's less traditional. I think I'm going to switch the 3 year old to the one my oldest used once she can read slightly smaller print without getting tired. A third method I tried using but didn't work as well was using blocks with syllables printed on them. The method is very popular in Russia but I found it cumbersome. There was a thread on here where 8FillTheHeart mentioned somebody learning Russian as a foreign language from resources on this site: http://ilearnrussian.com/ I am looking for several purposes: 1. Mainly, to show how syllabic phonics works in other languages to compare and contrast to English syllables and Webster's Speller, for anyone with some foreign language background. 2. For people that want to teach their children in multiple languages, I think that using syllables for both would be a great way to go, and at least seeing the option might give them some ideas even if they don't go the full dual syllabary route. I ordered the first book, it looks interesting! I took a semester of Russian in college, but it's been a while. I didn't realize the spelling had been simplified, that would make the older books pretty much a curiosity. I will probably make a gif of the one I found and put it on my website and let people look it up themselves if they are that interested, if they were more useful I would work harder trying to link directly somehow. I will also link to the Bukvar book if I think it looks good. I have some pages copied from the history of Russian reading methodology and looked through the whole thing when I visited the Library of Congress, they have a copy. I am pretty sure that there was a period of whole language teaching in Russian for part of the 1920's to 1940's or so for a while but it was abandoned. But, as my Russian is not great, I can't be sure! I have had really good success with teaching my remedial ESL students with Webster's Speller and thought that the ability to compare and contrast syllables from their native language would help. Thanks for the translation help and book links!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadah Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I have found alot of this for free in German on googlebooks. Search under Fibel or Lesefibel. The current modern book for this method is ABC der Tiere. http://www.abc-der-tiere.de/lehrer/abc-der-tiere-1/schuelermaterialien/silbenfibelR/der-leselehrgang-einleitung/?PHPSESSID=a5ca2889b859cae58e8aca9d4d122d86 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElizabethB Posted August 6, 2014 Author Share Posted August 6, 2014 I have found alot of this for free in German on googlebooks. Search under Fibel or Lesefibel. The current modern book for this method is ABC der Tiere. http://www.abc-der-tiere.de/lehrer/abc-der-tiere-1/schuelermaterialien/silbenfibelR/der-leselehrgang-einleitung/?PHPSESSID=a5ca2889b859cae58e8aca9d4d122d86 That looks great! I also like the little pictures within the text, an older English phonics series that I like by Pollard has that here is an example, http://books.google.com/books?id=LFsXAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA19&dq=rebecca+pollard&as_brr=1&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=4#v=onepage&q=rebecca%20pollard&f=false I will add the link soon, it is always nice to have a modern option. I will also try those search terms, thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quelle.que.soit Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Frenchhttp://www.lesalphas.net/ only available from their website Méthode Boscher would be the other one. Those books are available on lots of websites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie_0801 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Now the thread has been bumped... The guy in the shop didn't find anything priced for those of us who aren't Saudi princesses, but I talked a company into charging me for the whiteboard I didn't need, but keeping it so I didn't have to pay postage for it. Half a win. :p We're working our way through drilling the short vowels. I'm looking forward to the long vowels. They're gonna be so exciting. *phew* 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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