julie4 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 My 3rd grader is doing IEW SWI A and WWE 3. She's doing great with these, she seems to have a good "feel" for writing. They don't really seem to challenge her, but since they are effective I really don't want to drop them either. Can you point me to something we could use a a supplement, just for fun or some challenging extra writing. She finishes the narrations & dictations in wwe pretty quickly and wants to do something else. Thanks, Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 We have just started Dont Forget to Write and my 8 yo loves it. It is challenging for him to follow the instructions-he just wants to write whatever he feels like- but I think it's good for him to learn how to really develop his stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Academy Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Have you looked at the Classical Academic Press Writing & Rhetoric series? It's perfect for 3rd grade and it definitely goes beyond summary & dictation skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByGrace3 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Brave Writer Partnership Writing is a great supplement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie4 Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Thanks ladies, I really like the look of writing and rhetoric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie4 Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Have you looked at the Classical Academic Press Writing & Rhetoric series? It's perfect for 3rd grade and it definitely goes beyond summary & dictation skills. Thank you for this recommendation, I love what I am reading about it. Do you know if I can start with Book 2 Narratives, or does it build on book 1 Fables. I would kind of like my 5th grader to try this too, but it doesn't look like that grade level is out yet. I was thinking about starting at book 2, and they could both do it. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Academy Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 I think you could definitely do that with an older kid. I flirted with the idea myself, but my 6th grader was just a bit too beyond it. I may run her through Book 4 when it comes out, though. The series is meant to build on itself, but I think if a kid's narration & summary skills are solid and they know basic grammar, they could jump in with Book 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soror Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 We are on Lesson 8(of 10) of WR Book 2, so we've nearly finished book 1 and 2 fwiw. There are some references to lessons from Book 1 but I think a strong/older student could jump in Book 2 if they had good narration and summarization skills. I do think Book 1 is an excellent lead in to book 2, it is a good fun intro to writing using the classical method. I'd try to do it at all possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie4 Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 We are on Lesson 8(of 10) of WR Book 2, so we've nearly finished book 1 and 2 fwiw. There are some references to lessons from Book 1 but I think a strong/older student could jump in Book 2 if they had good narration and summarization skills. I do think Book 1 is an excellent lead in to book 2, it is a good fun intro to writing using the classical method. I'd try to do it at all possible. I think you are right. I am in no hurry, especially since next level isn't even out yet. And I'm going to book 1 with my 3rd grader anyway, so this way we can all do it together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berta Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Have you looked at the Classical Academic Press Writing & Rhetoric series? It's perfect for 3rd grade and it definitely goes beyond summary & dictation skills. Can you give me an example of a lesson? Is this independent work or parent/child working together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soror Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 http://classicalacademicpress.com/writing-rhetoric-1/ Check out the site, there are pretty extensive examples for both books if you click on them individually. There is certainly enough to determine if it will work for you and your student. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berta Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 I did look at the website but I couldn't determine if this is open and go or if it is teacher intensive. My daughter is extremely independent and if she can't do it all on her own (with me just correcting the work) then she won't do it willingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soror Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Did you look at the samples, there are 3 lessons displayed so you get a good feel for the program. It is open and go and could be done independently if your child is ready for it but I would do it on the upper end of the age range if you don't plan on teaching it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByGrace3 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I did look at the website but I couldn't determine if this is open and go or if it is teacher intensive. My daughter is extremely independent and if she can't do it all on her own (with me just correcting the work) then she won't do it willingly. We are only a coupe of lessons into W&R. We love it. It is open and go. It is teacher intensive for my 3rd grader. I do everything alongside her except the copywork. I also don't necessarily think of it as a supplement. It is a complete writing program. It and another program would be too much for my dd. It is engaging and wonderfully structured....but it's full, not what I think of as a "writing supplement." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soror Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I wouldn't call it a supplement either, although I don't think the first 2 books constitute enough for a full year's worth of writing on their own, not at the 4th grade level anyway. I had thought about adding some home-designed writing or BW to next year to help fill in- this year we've done WWE3 but reading about the increase in expectations in the next books I'm going to wait and see if it is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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