New Unit Cap for California Dual Enrollment

[Susie in CA]

Hi Everyone,

 

It appears that we just got a new unit cap for classes while attending a community college during highschool in California.

 

Here is what it says on the form I have to use:

 

• • Effective spring 2014, K-12 students are limited to 7 units in spring or fall term and 4 units in summer session. A student requesting enrollment in excess of these limits must petition to the Director of Enrollment Services and provide transcripts and written justification. See 
    K-12 Minor Unit Petition
    .
• If the minor student is attending high school, the parent or guardian and the high school district official must sign.

If the minor student has graduated high school or has received a California High School Proficiency Exam Certificate, then only the parent or guardian signature is required.

If the minor student has been home schooled, then an official from the high school district where the student resides must sign and the parent or guardian must sign. (Private School Affidavit is Required)

If the minor student is under 15 years of age, then permission to attend must be requested of the Palomar faculty member who will sign the form if permission is granted. Admissions staff will process the enrollment in person.

In all cases, submit the form to the Admissions/Financial Aid Office in the Student Services Center in San Marcos or the Escondido Center.

 

This is going to be a real challange for us. Our plan was to have dss take all Math and Science as dual enrollment. He was so looking forward to it. The unit cap now is 7. Most Math and Science courses are at least 4 units each which means he can never take both at the same time. 

 

I am wondering if this a statewide change or not? They just posted this change right before open enrollment this week.

 

 

 

[Melissa B]

Our local university (in Florida) just made a similar change, though not as strict as yours.  Up to now DE students could take ten credit hours per term - 30 credits per year.  Starting this spring term DE students can only take two classes per term, or six classes per year. With the new change our current plan for the rest of her high school years won't work. The new trends don't bode well for dual enrollment for any of her younger siblings either. I wonder if we should plan on DE at all.  

 

It looks like you could petition for 8 units. I'd give that a try.

[Susie in CA]

You need to petition via the local highschool.

 

[Sebastian (a lady)]

 

Hi Everyone,

 

It appears that we just got a new unit cap for classes while attending a community college during highschool in California.

 

Here is what it says on the form I have to use:

 

• • Effective spring 2014, K-12 students are limited to 7 units in spring or fall term and 4 units in summer session. A student requesting enrollment in excess of these limits must petition to the Director of Enrollment Services and provide transcripts and written justification. See 
    K-12 Minor Unit Petition
    .
  • If the minor student is attending high school, the parent or guardian and the high school district official must sign.
  • If the minor student has graduated high school or has received a California High School Proficiency Exam Certificate, then only the parent or guardian signature is required.
  • If the minor student has been home schooled, then an official from the high school district where the student resides must sign and the parent or guardian must sign. (Private School Affidavit is Required)
  • If the minor student is under 15 years of age, then permission to attend must be requested of the Palomar faculty member who will sign the form if permission is granted. Admissions staff will process the enrollment in person.
  • In all cases, submit the form to the Admissions/Financial Aid Office in the Student Services Center in San Marcos or the Escondido Center.

 

This is going to be a real challange for us. Our plan was to have dss take all Math and Science as dual enrollment. He was so looking forward to it. The unit cap now is 7. Most Math and Science courses are at least 4 units each which means he can never take both at the same time. 

 

I am wondering if this a statewide change or not? They just posted this change right before open enrollment this week.

 

 

 

 

So when I read this form, it looks like a student needs to fill out the K12 Minor Unit Petition form in order to take more than 7 units.  If they want to take 12 or more units, then they need the signature of the applicable high school officials too.

 

So for the 8 units of math and science, I think it would be just the top section of the Minor Unit Petition form.

 

Or are you seeing more guidance on another page of the CC website?

[Susie in CA]

So when I read this form, it looks like a student needs to fill out the K12 Minor Unit Petition form in order to take more than 7 units.  If they want to take 12 or more units, then they need the signature of the applicable high school officials too.

 

Sebastian,

 

Thank you for catching that. That does make it seem a little better. We shall see how much grieve they will give us in the fall when we will actually try to sign up for 8 units. We used to not need any special permission before as long as you kept under 12 units. I guess, I'll need to worry about transcripts sooner than I ever expected.

 

[Sebastian (a lady)]

So when I read this form, it looks like a student needs to fill out the K12 Minor Unit Petition form in order to take more than 7 units.  If they want to take 12 or more units, then they need the signature of the applicable high school officials too.

 

Sebastian,

 

Thank you for catching that. That does make it seem a little better. We shall see how much grieve they will give us in the fall when we will actually try to sign up for 8 units. We used to not need any special permission before as long as you kept under 12 units. I guess, I'll need to worry about transcripts sooner than I ever expected.

 

FWIW, I've been trying to figure out the possibilities in San Diego, because there is a possibility of a move there in the future.

 

The form I see for them seems to limit high schoolers to only one class per semester (across the whole San Diego Community College District). And there is the following announcement on one website:

 

Due to reductions from the state regarding the number of students community colleges can serve per academic year, the San Diego Community College District is not permitting concurrently enrolled high school students to attend starting fall 2011, with the exception of special partnership programs between certain high schools and the colleges.

[Susie in CA]

Well, this depends a lot on the specific community college. We are in San Diego County and the one we attend is apparently the most liberal in allowing us to attend. But it is getting more difficult all the time.

[Sebastian (a lady)]

Well, this depends a lot on the specific community college. We are in San Diego County and the one we attend is apparently the most liberal in allowing us to attend. But it is getting more difficult all the time.

Would you mind sharing which campus? Pm if you prefer.

 

Access might be a big factor for choosing where we look for a house to rent.

[JennW in SoCal]

Ah, the OP is posting about Palomar Community College which is a different district than the San Diego Community College district.  Grossmont district used to also allow 2 courses a semester.  I had hoped with the improving budget situation in CA that offerings at the CCs would also improve, but it sounds like that isn't the case.  

 

One way to deal with the limitations is to have your child take the CHSPE, or California High School Proficiency Exam.  It can be taken after the sophomore year, and once passed (easy to do) a student can enroll full time at the community colleges, no matter the district.  My youngest did this, taking 2-3 courses a semester his junior and senior year.  He then applied to college as an incoming freshman, though he could have stayed in state and transferred to a UC or State school.   A teen can also more easily work part time with the CHSPE certificate -- they don't have to get the school district to sign off on employment forms.  

[Susie in CA]

Ah, the OP is posting about Palomar Community College which is a different district than the San Diego Community College district.  Grossmont district used to also allow 2 courses a semester.  I had hoped with the improving budget situation in CA that offerings at the CCs would also improve, but it sounds like that isn't the case.  

 

One way to deal with the limitations is to have your child take the CHSPE, or California High School Proficiency Exam.  It can be taken after the sophomore year, and once passed (easy to do) a student can enroll full time at the community colleges, no matter the district.  My youngest did this, taking 2-3 courses a semester his junior and senior year.  He then applied to college as an incoming freshman, though he could have stayed in state and transferred to a UC or State school.   A teen can also more easily work part time with the CHSPE certificate -- they don't have to get the school district to sign off on employment forms.  

 

 

You know your stuff, JennW. :-) Palomar Community College is correct. The thing is some kids just have a tough time even with the CHSPE and I think it is too bad that things are being made more difficult for them. We are going to do CHSPE when the time comes and hopefully it will turn out okay. Having said that, it does seem that things are really in the air. The cost of units is also way more expensive than it used to be, although, that doesn't affect us at this point.

[Chrysalis Academy]

This may be a dumb question, but if your student passes the CHSPE, are they still considered a high school student?  Jenn, that's what it sounds like you are saying your son did - he took the CHSPE after his sophomore year, and then went on as a junior & senior high school student, enrolled part time at a CC, then started college as a freshman.  Is that correct?

 

I guess I'm still trying to get my brain wrapped around how exactly cc classes fit in - I know you can dual-enroll, as a high school student, and I know you can graduate your student "early" and have them do the cc for college credit . . . but this sounds like a third option.  Am I misunderstanding the relationship between CHSPE and finishing high school?

 

And Jenn, If your son had transferred to a UC or CSU instead of going to an out of state LAC, would he still have been a freshman, or would he have been transferring as an upperclassman?  

 

 

[Crimson Wife]

I am wondering if this a statewide change or not? They just posted this change right before open enrollment this week.

Individual CC's have always had different rules. I was looking at the catalog just yesterday for one of the CC's in my area because my DD wants to study American Sign Language and this particular CC has an ASL & Deaf Studies program. I was disappointed to see that ASL is not on the (super-short) list of courses that the school allows students below 10th grade to enroll in. The closest CC does not have this restriction on which courses may be taken (any one that has space available is fair game), but unfortunately it does not offer ASL.

 

ETA: I was looking for future reference, not planning on sending my DD this year, LOL!

[Laura in CA]

 

 

 

 

• • Effective spring 2014, K-12 students are limited to 7 units in spring or fall term and 4 units in summer session. A student requesting enrollment in excess of these limits must petition to the Director of Enrollment Services and provide transcripts and written justification. See K-12 Minor Unit Petition

...

 

This is going to be a real challange for us. Our plan was to have dss take all Math and Science as dual enrollment. He was so looking forward to it. The unit cap now is 7. Most Math and Science courses are at least 4 units each which means he can never take both at the same time. 

 

I am wondering if this a statewide change or not?

 

 

 

 

Individual CC's have always had different rules.

 

That's definitely true.  We have 4 or 5 CCs in our general area, and they all have widely different policies -- for example, one takes kids from grades K and up; others only gr. 10+; etc.  Ours has gotten stricter about deadlines, and has moved the concurrent enrollment registration date up from 6-8 weeks before classes start to just a few days before classes start :(

However, concurrent enrollment classes are still free, and our local CC still has a fairly generous cap of 11 units per semester. From their current forms:

 

 

NOTE: CONCURRENT ENROLLMENT IS LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF 11 UNITS PER SEMESTER (6 UNITS FOR SUMMER SESSION).

 

 

7 units is harsh! You might want to see if there are other CCs within commuting distance that are more generous. I understand why they add restrictions on concurrent enrollment, but the fact is that the high-school kids we know -- both homeschooled and public schooled -- who are taking classes at the CC are some of the most attentive, bright, and studious kids in the CC classes; the professors like having them in their classes, as they raise the bar. Many of the "regular" students end up dropping classes mid-semester that concurrent-enrollment students were denied entry to at registration because the class was full ... I shouldn't start a rant, haha, but we've found it well worthwhile contacting the professor before classes start -- sometimes they have encouraged the high-school student to wait-list, attend class, or even given him or her override permission to enroll, etc., knowing that odds are that a spot will open up soon.

[Sebastian (a lady)]

Is free concurrent enrollment limited to students associated with a public school? Or is this an option for homeschoolers too?

[Laura in CA]

Is free concurrent enrollment limited to students associated with a public school? Or is this an option for homeschoolers too?

 

Definitely an option for homeschoolers! In fact, most of the students we know doing concurrent enrollment are homeschooled. (Just from a logistical point of view, CC classes are easier to schedule when you don't have to work around mandatory high-school classes such as PE, civics, etc.)

 

Many homeschoolers in CA are enrolled in (public) charter schools, as were we for a while; you just have to get the principal of the charter school to sign the CC form recommending the student for concurrent enrollment (specifying that the student has a GPA of at least 2.0 (!) and that the CC courses desired are not available at the high school). This just took us an hour or two, to fax to the principal and receive the form back. 

 

Independent homeschoolers (which we are now) : this varies by CC, how well they understand state law (that you are legally a private school, and that the parent can sign as principal), but ours is very welcoming to independent homeschoolers. (I've heard of other CCs wanting transcripts that have a seal, are stamped with an ink stamp, etc.)

 

The other options for homeschooling in CA are being affiliated with a brick-and-mortar public school (in which case you'd get that school's principal to sign the recommendation form, the same as "regular" students at that school) and being taught by a credentialed tutor (I think -- I don't know anyone who uses this option) (in which case I assume the tutor would sign the form??).

 

Anyway, yes -- free (for up to 11 units a semester, in our case) -- the only costs were $35 per semester for various fees, and a parking permit.

 

 

Another option (just throwing this out there) might be to enroll via "dual matriculation" at a California State University (of which there are something like 23 campuses; they claim to be the largest university system in the USA. They seem to be mostly concentrated in the Bay Area, LA area, and Central Valley). My son had taken all the math classes at our local CC, so it finally occurred to me that he could perhaps take classes at the (slightly farther away) 4-year Cal State. He is LOVING it there, and is excited by the wider variety of more-advanced classes than are offered at the CC. The drawback is the price (the same as full-time regular Cal State students), and the fact that even paying full freight, he is limited to two classes per term. But the cost is still less than (according to folks on this board) the cost of CC classes in some other states, and it is giving my son the challenge -- and autonomy -- he needed this year (his senior year).

[Sebastian (a lady)]

Thanks for all the detail. It helps a lot.

 

The only hitch for us may be that I'm trying to preserve VA residency because I think we have stronger college choices here than CA. So it looks like the CA CC would cost a lot if we are paying non-resident rates. That may make online options a better choice. I guess I'll cross that bridge when I have to.

[JennW in SoCal]

This may be a dumb question, but if your student passes the CHSPE, are they still considered a high school student?  Jenn, that's what it sounds like you are saying your son did - he took the CHSPE after his sophomore year, and then went on as a junior & senior high school student, enrolled part time at a CC, then started college as a freshman.  Is that correct?

 

I guess I'm still trying to get my brain wrapped around how exactly cc classes fit in - I know you can dual-enroll, as a high school student, and I know you can graduate your student "early" and have them do the cc for college credit . . . but this sounds like a third option.  Am I misunderstanding the relationship between CHSPE and finishing high school?

 

And Jenn, If your son had transferred to a UC or CSU instead of going to an out of state LAC, would he still have been a freshman, or would he have been transferring as an upperclassman?  

 

 

The CHSPE is a rare "best of both worlds" scenario.  If you pass you can be done with high school and enroll full time at the community college.  You can start working on the credits you need to transfer as a junior to a UC or CSU.   BUT you are still eligible to return to a public high school if you choose.   It is NOT the same as a high school diploma, it is a certificate of proficiency.   And an underaged minor, even with a CHSPE in hand, still has to be in school -- that is part of the CA law.  Basically you can consider your student however you want to consider him -- a high schooler still or a young college student.

 

So yes, my ds took the CHSPE at the end of his sophomore year.  He was a part time student at the CC his junior year, then full time his senior year.  He took a few more homeschool credits with me, and worked part time at a local museum.  He applied to small liberal arts colleges to enter as a freshman.  All the credits did transfer to his 4 year school, but he won't graduate early.  He is instead taking advantage of having a more flexible schedule.  

 

He could have finished his transfer requirements then transferred to a UC or CSU. However, he was at the CC (Grossmont for those of you in San Diego) during the grimmest days of the budget cuts and decided he just wanted out of the state and out of the system.  Registering and crashing courses was a soul-sucking experience, not to mention the poor equipment -- one microscope for 40 students to share in chem lab.  The quality of the instruction was good, but the crowding and the scramble for classes was awful.

 

 

Sebastian -- if you wind up in San Diego we can talk you through the public charter option.  It can be a  bit of a Faustian bargain, but some (not all) of them are an excellent option for AP courses or dual enrollment.

[Chrysalis Academy]

Thanks, JennW!  that does clarify things!

[Sebastian (a lady)]

The CHSPE is a rare "best of both worlds" scenario. If you pass you can be done with high school and enroll full time at the community college. You can start working on the credits you need to transfer as a junior to a UC or CSU. BUT you are still eligible to return to a public high school if you choose. It is NOT the same as a high school diploma, it is a certificate of proficiency. And an underaged minor, even with a CHSPE in hand, still has to be in school -- that is part of the CA law. Basically you can consider your student however you want to consider him -- a high schooler still or a young college student.

 

So yes, my ds took the CHSPE at the end of his sophomore year. He was a part time student at the CC his junior year, then full time his senior year. He took a few more homeschool credits with me, and worked part time at a local museum. He applied to small liberal arts colleges to enter as a freshman. All the credits did transfer to his 4 year school, but he won't graduate early. He is instead taking advantage of having a more flexible schedule.

 

He could have finished his transfer requirements then transferred to a UC or CSU. However, he was at the CC (Grossmont for those of you in San Diego) during the grimmest days of the budget cuts and decided he just wanted out of the state and out of the system. Registering and crashing courses was a soul-sucking experience, not to mention the poor equipment -- one microscope for 40 students to share in chem lab. The quality of the instruction was good, but the crowding and the scramble for classes was awful.

 

 

Sebastian -- if you wind up in San Diego we can talk you through the public charter option. It can be a bit of a Faustian bargain, but some (not all) of them are an excellent option for AP courses or dual enrollment.

Would a public charter accept earlier done at home or online non-accredited coursework?

I love the idea of options. I hate strings. I really hate rules that get in the way of learning. I'd assumed that with two kids already in high school we'd need to stay independent. But that's a bridge to cross if we actually move.

[JennW in SoCal]

Would a public charter accept earlier done at home or online non-accredited coursework?

I love the idea of options. I hate strings. I really hate rules that get in the way of learning. I'd assumed that with two kids already in high school we'd need to stay independent. But that's a bridge to cross if we actually move.

 

Good question -- I don't know, and it probably depends on the charter.  They do have pesky strings, but it worked well for one of my kids.

[quark]

Would a public charter accept earlier done at home or online non-accredited coursework?

I love the idea of options. I hate strings. I really hate rules that get in the way of learning. I'd assumed that with two kids already in high school we'd need to stay independent. But that's a bridge to cross if we actually move.

 

We are with a public virtual charter and I have asked this exact question. They might accept the coursework done at home or online if it is validated with SAT subject test results or SAT scores over a certain cut off point. Best to check with the individual charter school.

 

[stephinsocal]

JennW and Laura, I don't want to commit a threadjack, but I'd love to hear your general thoughts on the public charter school route.  It has worked well for us for the past two years, but is starting to feel restrictive now that my oldest is in 9th grade.  I looked for an earlier thread on this topic, but couldn't find one.

[Ellie]

   And an underaged minor, even with a CHSPE in hand, still has to be in school -- that is part of the CA law. 

 

Are you *sure* about this?

 

ETA: Here it is:

 

California Education Code Section 48410

Legal Research Home > California Laws > Education Code > California Education Code Section 48410

 

48410.  There are exempted from compulsory attendance in continuing education classes as otherwise required by Sections 48400 and 48402, persons who:

1. Have been graduated from a high school maintaining a four-year course above the eighth grade of the elementary schools, or who have had an equal amount of education in a private school or from a private tutor.
2. Are in attendance upon a public or private full-time day school, or satisfactory part-time classes maintained by other agencies.
3. Are disqualified for attendance in these classes because of their physical or mental condition, or because of personal services that must be rendered to their dependents.   
4. Are satisfactorily attending a regional occupational program or center as provided in Section 48432.
5. Have successfully demonstrated proficiency equal to or greater than standards established by the State Department of Education pursuant to Section 48412, and have verified approval submitted by their parent or guardian.
6. Are subject to Section 48400 but not Section 48402 and are in attendance upon classes for adults for not less than four clock hours per calendar week.
7. Are exempt from compulsory school attendance under Section 48231.

Section (5) refers to the CHSPE. A student who has passed the CHSPE and whose parents have submitted approval [presumably to the student's school of attendance]is exempt from public or private school attendance.

[Note: in the actual Education Code, the list is a, b, c, etc., with parenthesis, but HTML code reads the as a smilie, lol]

[Carol in Cal.]

You might want to check on 'middle college' programs in your area as well. 

[FishMama]

I have had one of the craziest years of my life; the spring of DS's junior year is upon me. I have found out that I've been in the dark and misinformed about a lot of things, so I'm trying to make up for lost time. This thread caught my eye in a search, particularly since we're in North SD County and I want to make sure I'm not messing up my son's options because I've been ignorant and busy.

 

Are there any downsides to taking the CHSPE? From past reading, I thought there was a stigma to the GED. Is this different? If so, how so? I would like to avoid all contact with local schools since I've got five more kids to educate at home (independent hs affadavit). And if I can help him get CC credit so he could transfer into UC or just finish earlier, that would be great. Does taking the CHSPE affect scholarship opportunities?

 

He's a smart kid and has good study skills, just needs to be stirred up to set some goals. As does his mother, apparently. Thanks for all your help!

[Laurel-in-CA]

I have had one of the craziest years of my life; the spring of DS's junior year is upon me. I have found out that I've been in the dark and misinformed about a lot of things, so I'm trying to make up for lost time. This thread caught my eye in a search, particularly since we're in North SD County and I want to make sure I'm not messing up my son's options because I've been ignorant and busy.

 

Are there any downsides to taking the CHSPE? From past reading, I thought there was a stigma to the GED. Is this different? If so, how so? I would like to avoid all contact with local schools since I've got five more kids to educate at home (independent hs affadavit). And if I can help him get CC credit so he could transfer into UC or just finish earlier, that would be great. Does taking the CHSPE affect scholarship opportunities?

 

He's a smart kid and has good study skills, just needs to be stirred up to set some goals. As does his mother, apparently. Thanks for all your help!

 

CHSPE is presented as *not* having the downside of a GED. My ds took it at the end of his sophomore year (it took him 2 tries, and the test is around $125 each time) and has gone on to success at the CC, no problem with unit limits, etc. The CAHSEE (CA high school exit exam for public school students) and the CHSPE are supposed to be pretty closely aligned now. You can find CHSPE practice questions on line for the two sections (math & english); it's a timed test, which is why my ds had to re-take it as he'd run out of time before finishing the 2nd section. He had to pay the same for the 2nd test but had 3 whole hours to spend on a single section, which was helpful.

 

I don't know if the CHSPE affects scholarship opportunities; I have heard often that too many CC credits will affect scholarships. My ds right now plans to get a dual AA and then stop until he knows what he wants to do...not sure we ever totally figure that out.

 

ALL of the CCs have a list of classes that are required to transfer into a UC/CSU. Make sure your kiddo meets with the counselor. I went the first time ds had a counseling appt. but after that it's been up to him.

[Ellie]

 

Hi Everyone,

 

It appears that we just got a new unit cap for classes while attending a community college during highschool in California.

 

Here is what it says on the form I have to use:

 

 

• • Effective spring 2014, K-12 students are limited to 7 units in spring or fall term and 4 units in summer session. A student requesting enrollment in excess of these limits must petition to the Director of Enrollment Services and provide transcripts and written justification. See K-12 Minor Unit Petition.
  • If the minor student is attending high school, the parent or guardian and the high school district official must sign.
  • If the minor student has graduated high school or has received a California High School Proficiency Exam Certificate, then only the parent or guardian signature is required.
  • If the minor student has been home schooled, then an official from the high school district where the student resides must sign and the parent or guardian must sign. (Private School Affidavit is Required)
  • If the minor student is under 15 years of age, then permission to attend must be requested of the Palomar faculty member who will sign the form if permission is granted. Admissions staff will process the enrollment in person.
  • In all cases, submit the form to the Admissions/Financial Aid Office in the Student Services Center in San Marcos or the Escondido Center.

This is going to be a real challange for us. Our plan was to have dss take all Math and Science as dual enrollment. He was so looking forward to it. The unit cap now is 7. Most Math and Science courses are at least 4 units each which means he can never take both at the same time. 

 

I am wondering if this a statewide change or not? They just posted this change right before open enrollment this week.

 

Looks like a local change.

 

Bummer. It's a crummy policy.

 

[JennW in SoCal]

I've seen zero negative consequences to taking the CHSPE.

 

My ds also took the CHSPE at the end of his sophomore year, took CC classes for 2 years, but decided to apply as a freshman to a small, out of state, liberal arts college.  He received a generous merit scholarship and received credit for all his CC classes.  He wasn't interested in graduating college early because he is so young -- as it is he will have just celebrated his 21st birthday when he graduates.  

 

The other benefit of having passed the CHSPE is that a teen can hold down a job and work during school hours.  It makes it so much easier for independent homeschooled kids because without the CHSPE there is some form that is supposed to be signed by the public school, or the district, granting permission for the student to be working.  My ds had a job at one of the museums in Balboa Park for those 2 years he was at community college.

 

I know other kids (adults now) who transferred to the UC system after community college.  I have no idea what, if any, scholarships they received.  I cannot imagine there being a stigma within either of the CA college systems for someone who went the CHSPE route because it is, after all, a CA program.  

 

I think everything else you need to know can be found on the CHSPE website.

 

 

[Ellie]

 

Hi Everyone,

 

It appears that we just got a new unit cap for classes while attending a community college during highschool in California.

 

Here is what it says on the form I have to use:

 

• • Effective spring 2014, K-12 students are limited to 7 units in spring or fall term and 4 units in summer session. A student requesting enrollment in excess of these limits must petition to the Director of Enrollment Services and provide transcripts and written justification. See 
    K-12 Minor Unit Petition
    .
  • If the minor student is attending high school, the parent or guardian and the high school district official must sign.
  • If the minor student has graduated high school or has received a California High School Proficiency Exam Certificate, then only the parent or guardian signature is required.
  • If the minor student has been home schooled, then an official from the high school district where the student resides must sign and the parent or guardian must sign. (Private School Affidavit is Required)
  • If the minor student is under 15 years of age, then permission to attend must be requested of the Palomar faculty member who will sign the form if permission is granted. Admissions staff will process the enrollment in person.
  • In all cases, submit the form to the Admissions/Financial Aid Office in the Student Services Center in San Marcos or the Escondido Center.

 

This is going to be a real challange for us. Our plan was to have dss take all Math and Science as dual enrollment. He was so looking forward to it. The unit cap now is 7. Most Math and Science courses are at least 4 units each which means he can never take both at the same time. 

 

I am wondering if this a statewide change or not? They just posted this change right before open enrollment this week.

 

 

 

 

Just figured out this was an older thread when I saw my own reply from a few months ago after I posted today. :laugh:

 

But here's something else I thought of (I'm apparently slow on the uptake): I wonder if students who are enrolled in *all* private schools are required to have an official from the local school district sign off. The court case from a few years ago decided that homeschools are the equivalent of private schools; seems to me that homebased private schools shouldn't have to do things that campus-based private schools aren't required to do.

 

OTOH, I can understand why the c.c. might be limiting dual-enrollment classes, because it's a budget issue. I was happy to pay tuition for my dds to attend c.c. as college students when they were 14, not dual-enrolled students. Not all c.c. will allow that, however.

 

[Sebastian (a lady)]

Looks like a local change.

 

Bummer. It's a crummy policy.

 

 

It seems that there are different policies at different CC, even in the San Diego area. The policy a few posts up is for Palomar. I've been poking at Southwestern and there is a two course/six credit limit there (which is annoying if you're trying to do two classes and one is 4 credits).  On the other hand, there was one CC in town that posted on their website that they were not accepting any dual enrollment students except those in specific partner high schools.

[Michelle_NC]

Another option we recently discovered is attending local universities as a visiting student.  No free tuition, unfortunately, but it was the only school that offered ASL.  Summer sessions are really easy to get into (I guess they expect to have a lot of locals home for summer vacation from other schools so there was virtually no paperwork and we didn't have to submit ACT scores).

 

Crossing my fingers for next Fall and Spring - not sure how easy that will be.