LibraryLover Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I know . I'll edit. My head was just trying to make sense of something senseless. Wanting the person to be sick from something I could understand. Which of course doesn't even make sense. I can see that. Hunters, construction workers, homeless people...all kinds of people wear BDUs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisemomof4 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I'm sorry, but what kind of sick bastard does something like this? These are YOUNG CHILDREN! I am shocked, horrified, and angry. My heart breaks for the families who are dealing with this right now. I can not comprehend what causes a person to shoot down innocent people, much less CHILDREN! YES!!!! That's what is so disturbing. I mean WHO does this type of thing PERIOD, but on very young kids? The news is conflicting. It sounds lime a KINDERGARDEN class was the target. SERIOUSLY??!!! I also heard that one shooter is dead, another is in custody. One 20, one 26. Horrific. Devastating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 double post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_l_e_0..Q_c Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 According to CNN http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/14/us/school-shootings/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 since the 80's there's at least one school shooting a year, and in the 90's it's regularly more than one a year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranquilMind Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Army uniform I wonder if it isn't another gamer who thought this might be a great idea to try out in real life... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Anyone can get BDUs. My sons in Civil Air Patrol have them. . I know . Edited. My head was just trying to make sense of something senseless. Wanting the person to be sick from something I could understand. Which of course doesn't even make sense. I can see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lang Syne Boardie Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I know . Edited. My head was just trying to make sense of something senseless. Wanting the person to be sick from something I could understand. Which of course doesn't even make sense. I can see that. I get it. Sorry if my post was a little terse. I can't stop crying. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lang Syne Boardie Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I know . Edited. My head was just trying to make sense of something senseless. Wanting the person to be sick from something I could understand. Which of course doesn't even make sense. I can see that. I get it. Sorry if my post was a little terse. I can't stop crying. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catz Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I wonder if it isn't another gamer who thought this might be a great idea to try out in real life... This seems like more baseless speculation. Let's wait for facts. Perhaps we can reason that the shooter(s) has serious mental issues. I can't imagine going any further than that at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissad2 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I just cannot comprehend this...I'm literally sick to my stomach. There is no excuse for this.at.all. My kindergartners birthday is today and I just can't imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mom2scouts Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I seriously want to puke right now. Me too. I am seriously feeling sick at the thought of what those people are suffering right now, especially the parents who don't have their kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Has anyone read if they have located the missing class? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I wonder if it isn't another gamer who thought this might be a great idea to try out in real life... Yeah, kindergartners in a class room. Real sporting there. Not that we know this is a gamer or a hunter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDays Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I can't imagine what it would be like to be a parent, with a child in that school, and you're standing outside the school wondering if your child is okay. The world's gone mad. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I can't listen, but dh told me heard the shooter is likely the son of a K teacher at the school, and there is a body at their home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I wonder if it isn't another gamer who thought this might be a great idea to try out in real life... And exactly which game perpetuates shooting children in classrooms? "Normal" human beings don't hunt human beings whether they are "gamers" or not. This is an absolute tragedy. I have been crying on and off since hearing. My god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicorn. Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I can't listen, but dh told me heard the shooter is likely the son of a K teacher at the school, and there is a body at their home. ETA: . Dh says it is confirmed he killed his mother in her classroom. No body in their home. He apparently killed his father at home in NJ, and then drove to the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovinmomma Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 TRIGGER!!!!!!!!! Shooters fb page: https://www.facebook.com/rlanza?ref=nf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrid Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 It's apparently been taken down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lang Syne Boardie Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Has anyone read if they have located the missing class? I keep looking and looking for that update but I haven't found it yet. It's haunting me, wondering if there's really a missing class of kindergartners either also killed or hiding somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer in MI Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The mother was the teacher of the missing kindergarten class? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDays Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The FB page looks pretty scrubbed, that's the second mention I've heard of it being awful. They must have gone in and cleaned it up, because I only took a quick look, but I don't see anything that stands out?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Dup. Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I watched for a bit and heard nothing about a missing class... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovinmomma Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The mother was the teacher of the missing kindergarten class? yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovinmomma Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I watched for a bit and heard nothing about a missing class... I don't think they mean "missing" just unaccounted for. I've not heard that the whole class is gone, yet. Maybe it is, but I haven't heard it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Dup. Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I don't think they mean "missing" just unaccounted for. I've not heard that the whole class is gone, yet. Maybe it is, but I haven't heard it. So that could be on top of the 18 already confirmed dead children? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Peregrine Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I wonder if it isn't another gamer who thought this might be a great idea to try out in real life... Still speculation but I checked out his FB page and the video game he liked is apparently getting a lot of heat. I don't think we can discount the effect these games have on people. Not saying it was in play here, but I think there is something to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbecueMom Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Still speculation but I checked out his FB page and the video game he liked is apparently getting a lot of heat. I don't think we can discount the effect these games have on people. Not saying it was in play here, but I think there is something to it. I'm curious, what game was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Peregrine Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I'm curious, what game was it? Mass Effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Still speculation but I checked out his FB page and the video game he liked is apparently getting a lot of heat. I don't think we can discount the effect these games have on people. Not saying it was in play here, but I think there is something to it. There are millions of gamers in the world, me being one. I don't think gaming had anything to do with what happened to this guy's mind. It is easy to blame it on the game, they get a bad rap anyway. People that do something like this have something wrong with their brain wiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Peregrine Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 There are millions of gamers in the world, me being one. I don't think gaming had anything to do with what happened to this guys mind. It is easy to blame it on the game, they get a bad rap anyway. People that do something like this have something wrong with their brain wiring. I don't disagree. I think there are many factors that, combined, can cause something like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbecueMom Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Mass Effect Ok, wow, that wasn't even one of the several I was thinking of. We own all the Mass Effect games, I think. Modern Warfare 3 usually gets called out for violence because of the airport scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer in MI Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 W Apparently he his goal was to kill his mother and those she loved, in this case, her kindergarten students. :( WHY???? (I'm not yelling at you. I'm just so so so sad.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovinmomma Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 So that could be on top of the 18 already confirmed dead children? I don't think so. I think that's including. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redheadmom Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 So that could be on top of the 18 already confirmed dead children? They are reporting that they are unaccounted for outside the school. That may mean that they are among the 18 dead. The unofficial report is that the entire class was killed. We can only hope that there aren't any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy in FL. Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I didn't think that they meant the class was missing, but those children were not among the survivors reuniting with parents. Meaning that the victims were all from that one class. Has anyone read if they have located the missing class? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The Facebook page is still up but I can't see anything on it....what was there? And who wiped it clean? If it was police why didn't they just close it completely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I didn't think that they meant the class was missing, but those children were not among the survivors reuniting with parents. Meaning that the victims were all from that one class. I don't know why that makes it all the more horrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 WHY???? (I'm not yelling at you. I'm just so so so sad.) My dad is a teacher for more than 40 years. We have always complain that dad has much more time for his students than us. If the shooter is mentally imbalanced, its easy to understand why he shot his mum and her class. Does not explain about the shooter's dad being killed though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovinmomma Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 My dad is a teacher for more than 40 years. We have always complain that dad has much more time for his students than us. If the shooter is mentally imbalanced, its easy to understand why he shot his mum and her class. Does not explain about the shooter's dad being killed though. I'm sure this was just poorly worded, but it doesn't explain the father OR the mother being murdered. Much less the CHILDREN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer in MI Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I don't know why that makes it all the more horrifying. I'm almost finding comfort in the fact that all the kids were from one class. Hopefully, none of the other children in the school had to witness the massacre and live with that the rest of their lives. Not that what they went through isn't horrifying, but to have actually SEEN their friends get killed would just be so hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer in MI Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 My dad is a teacher for more than 40 years. We have always complain that dad has much more time for his students than us. If the shooter is mentally imbalanced, its easy to understand why he shot his mum and her class. Does not explain about the shooter's dad being killed though. My dad and mom were both teachers for over 40 years too. I still don't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKL Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 No words. A whole roomful of angel babies. Thank God that lunatic is dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggieamy Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 n/m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueridge Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Was it mentioned that the shooter's mother was a kindergarten teacher? Were these poor babies her students? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Was it mentioned that the shooter's mother was a kindergarten teacher? Were these poor babies her students? A few new sources said that the mother and her kindergarten class was targeted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clear Creek Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I think it is just AWFUL!!! I cannot imagine how the parents of the students (and adults) who were killed feel! :crying: Recent local events have made me wonder how unsafe public schools actually are. How many people here have heard that a small school district in Central Texas has completely shut down after NINE bomb threats in one week at multiple schools? It was so out of control that they canceled school for Wed-Fri this week at all the public schools in the entire district. It hasn't made national news (that I know of), so it makes me wonder how much stuff like this goes on all across the country and doesn't make it into the national news unless something horrible happens. Are bomb threats and students bringing guns to school (happened at a school in this same district earlier this month) so commonplace that it isn't even news? EDITED: I am SO very sorry that what I said came across incorrectly, that was NOT my intention at all. :grouphug: to all that I inadvertently hurt, I am truly sorry. I only meant that I would be afraid for the safety of my children in public school at this point. So sorry. Leaving the conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovinmomma Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Please don't post things like this now. Homeschooling isn't an option for everyone and parents who don't have that option shouldn't feel guilty about. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraryLover Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 YES!!!! That's what is so disturbing. I mean WHO does this type of thing PERIOD, but on very young kids? The news is conflicting. It sounds lime a KINDERGARDEN class was the target. SERIOUSLY??!!! I also heard that one shooter is dead, another is in custody. One 20, one 26. Horrific. Devastating. I can't even comprehend the horror of that. Imagine all those baby faces...their poor parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TranquilMind Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 And exactly which game perpetuates shooting children in classrooms? "Normal" human beings don't hunt human beings whether they are "gamers" or not. This is an absolute tragedy. I have been crying on and off since hearing. My god. No, they don't. My point exactly. Me too. Crying and praying. I can't imagine what those parents who lost their children are going through... Inexplicably, they are already treating this as a "gun control" problem instead of a parental/societal detachment-something-went-horribly-wrong problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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