archangelos Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 My 2 boys who are 7 yo and 11 yo both passed the EPGY aptitude test. We are currently using Singapore math and I was wondering if there would be any advantage in enrolling with EPGY (considering the price) over continuing with Singapore math. Thanks. Blessings, Mia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 My 2 boys who are 7 yo and 11 yo both passed the EPGY aptitude test. We are currently using Singapore math and I was wondering if there would be any advantage in enrolling with EPGY (considering the price) over continuing with Singapore math.I can't answer your question as we haven't used EPGY, but I will tell you what I've planned. EPGY isn't currently an option for us because of the cost; we wouldn't qualify for financial aid, and the kids already have enough activities that the ongoing activity budget can't be stretched. My 6yo will be starting Singapore 4A in September or October. We use IP in lieu of the textbook, CWP, and supplement with Primary Challenge Math (soon to be Challenge Math). After 6B, we'll tackle Mathematics 6 before moving on to algebra (if she weren't so young, I'd consider using this instead of Singapore 6A/6B). After arithmetic is done, I'm willing to spend more money to keep things challenging. I'm not sure about core curriculum, but, among other things, I'm considering supplementing with Art of Problem Solving and eventually eIMACS. At this point we can revisit the EPGY question as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieinCA Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 We are in a similar position to Moira, but a couple of years ahead. My kids are 8 and 10, and also passed the EPGY and Johns Hopkins placement tests. We are also using Singapore Math, and after reviewing EPGY math at a friend's house (her son uses the program), we decided that we prefer Singapore. My kids didn't like the computer interface -- it seemed "old fashioned" to them and had a lot of bugs. Also, my kids didn't like the Thinkwell videos - they prefer me, or another "live" teacher, to present the material, and they felt the Thinkwell problems were not challenging enough. So, I am left to struggle through Singapore 6A/6B this year :) I am supplementing Singapore with Challenge Math and Life of Fred (our summer "fun math"). After Singapore, we are going to look at the Art of Problem Solving, or maybe Jacobs' "Mathematics: A Human Endeavor" prior to starting Algebra. We are also in the same situation as Moira regarding financial aid for EPGY. We would not qualify for aid, and there is no way I would pay that much for courses at this young age - maybe later... high school? - if I need to. Right now I would rather stretch our budget for music lessons and other things. I think Singapore is a fabulous curriculum at a VERY reasonable price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangelos Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 Dear Moira and Laurie, Thank you for your insights. We have decided to stick with Singapore math. EPGY is really expensive esp. that the tuition is per quarter. Also, the kids enjoy doing Singapore anyway. I just ordered the Challenge math to supplement. Also, thanks for the links to other math curricula. Blessings, Mia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmchr6 Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 We did Singapore too. And then moved on to challenge math books and real world algebra followed by art of problem solving! Plus reading lots of living math books like murderous maths, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I'm not sure about core curriculum, but, among other things, I'm considering supplementing with Art of Problem Solving and eventually eIMACS. At this point we can revisit the EPGY question as well. Moira (and anyone else familiar with eIMACS), about what "grade level" does eIMACS start at in Math? My 6yo qualified for EPGY which is kind of a relief for me because I haven't quite found a singular curriculum to work on with him. But if we do not qualify for financial aid, I want to be prepared with options. He liked the Teaching Textbooks demos that we looked at online (level 5 it says? really?) though I wonder if he would be bored with it in the long run (or maybe that's just _my_ vis/spat brain talking...) Life of Fred is definitely a good supplement for him that we could add in, he really took to a sample of that, but in general he still can do more problems and work longer if math work is computer based rather than writing intensive. I guess he's a little fine motor delayed or normal but his fine motor isn't up to speed with his math brain or verbal brain yet. Any information about further computer-based math programs is appreciated. :) Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Moira (and anyone else familiar with eIMACS), about what "grade level" does eIMACS start at in Math?Math starts at AP level Calculus preparation. The heart of eIMACS math is a series of logic courses, but more courses are available at their physical sites (IMACS) than online (and for gr 6-12). I don't know if they rotate the courses available online. They have sites in Connecticut, Florida, North Carolina and Missouri. My 6yo qualified for EPGY which is kind of a relief for me because I haven't quite found a singular curriculum to work on with him. But if we do not qualify for financial aid, I want to be prepared with options.At what level is he working? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 At what level is he working? I'd say roughly second/third grade. It varies a little bit. As an example, we can work from a third grade DK book though there are a few areas we haven't worked too hard - Singapore 2A&B are about the right level but that doesn't interest him as much as say, the Teaching Textbooks Level 5 did on the computer. He shies from much pencil work still and he balks at going back over things he knows pretty well, like adding money. My ds could probably tackle more concepts but I get hung up a bit on repeating facts and drilling a bit. I have seen him correctly answer multiple choice questions by just estimating adding double digit numbers. He even explained his method to me without saying the word "estimating". I'm no slouch on math but I am not certain I "get" how he learns in this area. So I am looking to try out EPGY for him esp. if we can qualify for aid. Otherwise, I may just lunge into the Teaching Textbooks 5 and Life of Fred and back up when he needs more background for an area. We haven't done double or triple digit multiplication or long division yet but this is the child who very excitedly last year told me, "7 times 7 is the same as 5 times 7 plus 2 times 7!" He also wanted to start his schoolwork again this summer so we did and he has some internal motivation. - Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 BTW - It is rather exhausting, isn't it, trying to match the math to the child on any given day? that's probably the biggest reason for me to try to get EPGY math for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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