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To start with, I should acknowledge that I am not currently a homeschooler. I have a 7 year old son who just started second grade in public school (I also have a one year old daughter). He's had a lot of rough spots in school due both to his dyslexia (discovered at the end of kindergarten, and no great surprise given that both dh and my brother are dyslexic so it comes from both sides) and also to the fact that he's an active boy and sitting in school for seven hours a day is rough for most young boys.

 

Anyway, we seriously considered pulling him out and I looked at a lot of curricula in depth and never decided which one would be best for sure. However, dh is really pro public school (both his parents are retired teachers), and, though I had a preference for homeschooling, we ultimately agreed to give public school another try for second grade. We'll reevaluate after the first quarter.

 

All that said, I'm a compulsive planner, and would love to have a plan in place on the chance that we either pull out at some point during second grade or go through second grade but then decide to bring him home for third. After much research, I've narrowed my choices down to three pretty different curricula that I like for different reasons (and also dislike for different reasons, hence the lack of a potential plan :)). I'd love to hear anyone's take on these.

 

1) Moving Beyond the Page, starting with the 6-8 level (if started this year sometime)

The project based learning looks like it's right up DS's alley. He loves to do projects. He also loves books, despite being able to read on only a very basic level, so a lit based program seems like it could be a good fit.

 

I'm a Christian, but I'm very open to secular curricula. I figure I'm teaching my son about Jesus while he's in public school and doing a pretty good job, there's no reason I NEED a curriculum that helps me with this.

 

I both like and dislike their approach to history and social studies. I don't feel like a classical history cycle from first grade on is essential (I know this is a classical board, but there seems to be some diversity of opinion on this :)), but it does kind of bother me that he wouldn't have any real history until 4th grade if I stuck with MBTP (which is when he'd hit the 8-10 package, covering early American history).

 

Also, the 7-9 level is a big jump in reading compared to 6-8. Sure, he MIGHT make that jump this year (he's doing tutoring outside of school with Barton Reading and Spelling, currently about halfway through level three, for those who know it), but then he might not.

 

2) Oak Meadow, starting with second grade if I started this year.

I love that creative, artsy things seem to be mixed in everywhere. I love the nature focus in the science, as DS is an animal freak and loves all things related to the outdoors.

 

I also really appreciate that LA and math are taken at a slower pace and some see them as "behind." I think this could be a good fit for a kid like mine who struggles in these areas. It appears to slowly work its way to being pretty consistent with grade level (maybe not in Math, but you can eventually move ahead in that), and a slow progression could be a good thing for ds.

 

Even though it's only Waldorf inspired and not true Waldorf, anything Waldorfy kind of gives me the creeps. I really think I'd like a lot of the practical aspects of Waldorf, but Steiner's worldview was about as different from mine as you can get, so I'm wary of things inspired by his educational program while at the same time liking a lot of what they have to offer.

 

Just as with MBTP, ds wouldn't hit much history in the early years, though some of the ancient cultures studies look fascinating.

 

3) MFW, specifically Adventures

I love that it hits history without delving into the violent parts of history that I think would be difficult to cover with this age. It seems like it would be a good balance of history exposure while still keeping the innocence of childhood.

 

While I don't feel like integrated Bible study is essential, the Names of Jesus study looks really cool.

 

I love that art and music are part of the schedule. These are ds's favorite special classes at school.

 

I think their suggested LA (Serl's language lessons) could be a good fit for DS, especially since a lot of it can reportedly be done orally.

 

Since it's designed for second or third grade, it could work to either start it partway through this year or the beginning of next year.

 

It seems as if there's a fair amount of adjustment allowable based on a child's writing and reading levels, which doesn't seem to be as true for the other two potential choices.

 

I could see following up Adventures with ECC, but I couldn't see sticking with MFW long term because of the strong young earth stance in their history and science. I lean more toward theistic evolution. I feel like I could probably tweak anything YE in Adventures or ECC, but it would just be too much to tweak starting with CTG.

 

This doesn't mean I CAN'T use MFW for those years, but I'd love to just be able to pick a curriculum and use it for many years, and that would not be the case with MFW, whereas it could be with MBTP or Oak Meadow.

 

Any thoughts? Thanks!

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I can't speak to all of your choices. My biggest suggestion is to pick what you think will work best for the here and now, when and if you decide to bring your son home. Looking to find one company to stay with for the long haul when you have used nothing is a huge task. I have always homeschooled my boys and thought when I started I would use HOD as far as they wrote for. This last 1.5 years. I still think it is a great program however, it no longer fits our needs. Now, it is better for me to pick and chose each subject. Remember kids change and so do you through the journey of schooling. Picking what you think will work best for the present and then re-evaluate as time goes on.

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We completed MBTP 6-8 last year and are continuing with 7-9 this coming year. I have loved this curriculum. My daughter has stayed very engaged and learned a ton. The standards go along with public-school standards, which is great if you are fine with those, but I can see how someone who is homeschooling to give their child a classical education would not choose this program. I love the project-based and literature-based approach to learning, and my dd has thrived with it. Some assignments have topics that I find slightly boring, but turn out to be really worthwhile. For example, one day when doing 6-8 Culture, she was asked to make a poster of the U.S. and glue different objects representing natural resources on different areas--for example, a kernel of popcorn to represent corn in the midwest, cotton ball to represent cotton in the south, etc. I thought it might be a waste of time because natural resources just aren't that thrilling, but we did it and she enjoyed it and still mentions natural resources in different areas of the country. This will be a good foundation when we get to history and she has to understand how natural resources play into events in history, kwim?

 

By the way, 7-9 there is a unit on ancient Rome and Greece. I plan to spend some extra time on that, and may bring in SOTW 1 as a read aloud this year, because the ancients are interesting and fun. Anyway, good luck with your decision and let me know if you have any more specific questions I can help with!

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I tell moms that are pulling their kids out of school to use a curriculum that models the public school for the first year. I often recommend A Beka, but I think Oak Meadow would be a good transition year too. I would NOT use MFW the first year. Here are my reasons:

 

1. I've seen too many moms pull their kids out (no matter the age) and get horribly burned out the first year because they picked a curriculum that is so different from what their kids are used to, they struggle to understand how it works and make it work. I'm risking getting flamed, but MFW is one of the culprits. I would not put a child in MFW fresh out of public school. I have used it and loved it, but not when my kids were little. I used A Beka for K and part of 1st for both girls to find my groove.

 

2. You have so much to adjust to and get used to when you homeschool and your child has been in PS. You will basically be taking on a full time job inside your home. It's NOT the same as being a stay at home mom. You will not have time to clean AT ALL, you will be juggling one child in school and one child not in school, which is a lot harder than it sounds. It's not the same as helping with homework, you are now the teacher and responsible for making sure the lesson gets taught, the work gets done, and the time is well spent. When you pick a curriculum that's outside the norm of what the child is used to, it's a lot harder to establish order. Your child is used to home being home and school being school. Home has been fun up till now. Many children, especially at his age, need to get used to the idea that home is now school too, and the best way to do that is using a very structured curriculum.

 

3. You will need this time to get to know him. What I mean by that is, you will need to learn his learning styles, what works and what doesn't. I've had several loving, involved moms tell me they thought they knew their child, but when they brought them home, they REALLY got to know him/her. You'll really get to know his personality, his likes and dislikes, and what's really been going on at school. He'll need time to debrief, and some days school won't fit into life. A streamlined curriculum will help keep you on track so you don't get behind during the transition. You can also take this time to read and explore the different theories and philosophies in the homeschooling world. It sounds like you've already done some of this, but until he comes home, you don't know if what appeals to you will work for him. Trust me, just because I liked the idea of something, that didn't mean my dd learned that way or it stuck.

 

4. It sounds like even if you pull your son out, DH is not totally on board and this will be an experiment to him and the rest of your family. No worries, many of us started that way. When I told DH I was going to homeschool our oldest for K, he said, "Oh, well if it's just for Kinder that's OK." 7/8 years later and he's the one that has the perseverance when mine runs out :lol:. It will help relations with DH and the rest of your family if you use something like Oak Meadow that's streamlined, pre-packaged and tried and true. Many private schools use Oak Meadow, and it has a proven track record. If you jump into something Charlotte Mason (like MFW), you'll have the added pressure of people questioning the philosophy.

 

5. Finally, If it ends up being temporary, you homeschool for a year or two and put DS back in school, he'll go in with relatively no trouble. I hate to be a negative Nelly, but it's even happened among my friends who swore they never would. It's more common among my friends who pull their kids out of PS. If there's any chance at all of him going back to school in a year or two, stick with what he knows and add in other resources to help with the dyslexia. Dianne Craft's resources are a great place to start. You can start checking them out now, and maybe use them with your son while he's in public school.

 

All of this is just my opinion, of course, and many will disagree with me. Like I said, I've known too many Moms who have crashed and burned trying to use a Charlotte Mason type curriculum right out of the gate. And, like I said, sometimes it's more about the workload than the type of curriculum. I have a friend who pulled her sons out two years ago at 1st and 6th grade. She LOVED MFW (I was using it), and wanted to use it too. The first year, she had a very hard time just figuring out a groove. Just the other day, she admitted she never did figure out a groove that first year. She was used to being a stay at home mom, cooking, cleaning, running errands and not having to answer for her time spent. Bringing her kids home rocked her world. It was actually pretty devastating to her that her house was never clean again, and it was hard to keep her youngest on track. Her hubby works and goes to school, so he is unavailable to help her around the house or with school. Last year, a friend loaned her MFW and she never got it off the ground. It was a disaster, and she was so discouraged. This year, she's going straight BJU DVDs and they are so excited. She wishes she had just used it (or something like it) from the beginning.

 

Good Luck whatever you decide! And welcome to the boards!

Blessings!

Dorinda

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Mom2boys:

 

Thanks for encouraging me to just think about what works now. I have this idea in the back of my mind that what he does at the age of seven will somehow dramatically affect his future career plans or something. Surely I'm not the only one on here who's that dramatic?! You're right. What I need to do is just figure out which program looks best for his needs now and not worry about what I might or might not be doing four, five, or ten years from now.

 

JessyC:

 

Thanks for the glowing, detailed review of MBtP! The things you mention loving about it are things that attract me as well, but I'd read too many reviews from people who said it looked good in theory but didn't work well in practice. It's good to hear someone who's posting away from the company's forums and loves it.

 

Coffeefreak:

 

You've put your finger on what was holding me back with MFW and other similar programs. They look great, and they seem to work wonderfully for many families, but they're SO DIFFERENT from what DS has had in school, I'd likely encounter resistance to those methods. Perhaps I could ease into them eventually if I ended up homeschooling long term, or perhaps I'll homeschool my daughter and start her with a method like that, but I really think it could be too rough of a transition at first.

 

What appealed to me about both MBTP and OM was that I could see traces of public school in them. MBTP looks like a more creative, project based version, and OM looks like a more artsy, nature based version. I guess I just need to figure out in my head what type fits ds best, since he has some of all of that.

 

My caveat: Don't take offense loyal MFW users. I'm certain some people have pulled their kids out of public school and used MFW or other Charlotte Mason programs with success. I think coffeefreak is probably right that it wouldn't be the best choice in my particular situation, however.

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You might find this blog post interesting...

 

I think a very good all-planned-out program is Memoria Press; the lesson plans are do-able and not overwhelming. They cover the basics very well; this leaves more time for wiggly boys to have fun. ;) The folks at MP are nice about making substituions within a package, so you can customize to your child better.

 

One of the best things you can do if you end up homeschooling is to find a program that YOU can wrap you head around and that YOU can teach. Don't worry too much about your son's love for the material; very few second graders love all their schoolwork, even if they are homeschooled... You as the teacher have to have some level of comfort with what you will be doing day in and day out, or both you and your son will not move forward. It will be better to keep it simple, and actually be able to get it done.

 

 

I hope your family can find a solution that brings some peace to you all. :)

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I tell moms that are pulling their kids out of school to use a curriculum that models the public school for the first year. I often recommend A Beka, but I think Oak Meadow would be a good transition year too. I would NOT use MFW the first year. Here are my reasons:

 

 

I think you made some good points, but I strongly disagree with this. I think just as many people burn out, become dissatisfied, question themselves and homeschooling and generally end up not enjoying homeschooling if they try to bring public school home instead of looking for a way to make it their own and do what's right for their individual family.

 

The whole point of homeschooling is to provide your child with a quality education in a way that is tailored to him.

 

It seems like the OP has done some research, has found two good options she likes, and it's now just about making that plunge.

 

Since no one mentioned it yet, I think deschooling is the better answer to any resistance being met to new methods.

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No, really, you're all making great points, everyone. Thanks for thinking and commenting thoughtfully about my situation.

 

Farrarwilliams: I think you have a point. I looked at Calvert for awhile, and I thought it just looked way too much like public school in a box. I also glanced at Abeka, and thought the same thing, except that it's Christian school in a box. I do think, though, that it would be best to start with something that's not too huge a transition, and MFW might be too huge a transition (it does look fun, though). I think Oak Meadow and MBTP could both offer something that bears some resemblance to what we're used to while packaging it in a much more creative and fun way.

 

re: Memoria Press - Somehow I missed this company in my curriculum search. The curriculum packages look like they're really well done, and, unfortunately, like they'd be a horrible fit for my son. He still struggles with manuscript writing, so I don't want to introduce cursive, and, since he can barely read English and language of any kind is hard for dyslexics, I don't need to introduce Latin at this point. That said, I'd love to teach at least one of my kids Latin someday. I took it in high school and loved it. In fact, I think a classical education would have been right up my alley. I'll file MP in the back of my mind and look at it again in a few years when DD is four. She looks just like me (DS is DH's little clone), so I'm hoping she thinks more like I do as well :).

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re: Memoria Press - Somehow I missed this company in my curriculum search. The curriculum packages look like they're really well done, and, unfortunately, like they'd be a horrible fit for my son. He still struggles with manuscript writing, so I don't want to introduce cursive, and, since he can barely read English and language of any kind is hard for dyslexics, I don't need to introduce Latin at this point. That said, I'd love to teach at least one of my kids Latin someday. I took it in high school and loved it. In fact, I think a classical education would have been right up my alley. I'll file MP in the back of my mind and look at it again in a few years when DD is four. She looks just like me (DS is DH's little clone), so I'm hoping she thinks more like I do as well :).

 

Points to you for knowing your son so well, and saving both of you some frustration... maybe some of the first grade material would be a better fit?

 

All the research and thinking through you're doing will pay off.

 

Have you looked at Sonlight? I don't recommned using the Language Arts part of their Cores (especially for a stuggling student), but my slow-to-get-reading wiggly seven year old boy has enjoyed using their readers packages, and is doing Core A this year with his sister. The variety of material keeps him engaged.

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If your son is dyslexic then it sounds like Oak Meadow might be the better way to go for you. It's gentle and slow paced in the early years.

 

We use MBTP (5-7 level). I think the first two levels are pretty relaxed but after that the writing component really ramps up. If you are looking for something you want to stick with this might become a struggle in the long term.

 

MBTP does usually provide two options in it's activities -one for the on grade level and one for the advanced learner in that level - but it could still be heavy going for a struggling child. If you go this route pay special attention to the requirements needed for each grade level - they really are spot on. Don't try to level him up based on age -definately take his skill level into account foremost.

 

I don't find MBTP to be a gifted program particularly -my kids are certainly average and they have no trouble with it. We find the program ok - I don't think any of us particulary love it. I chose it mostly because it was secular and it covers the topics I am required to cover in our State.

 

It is easy to use MBTP just as a supplement - that's how we use it. Every now and then we pick out a unit and do it -then take a break and do something else. If you wanted to try it out you can just buy one unit and see how your son goes with it rather then buying the whole thing straight up.

 

The owners are wonderful, approachable and helpful. If you have questions don't feel shy in asking them for help. Keith will tell you straight up if he thinks another program is a better fit for your child or he can help you tweak it to fit better as well.

 

Just make sure in your situation that you keep in mind that MBTP is heavily writing and reading based in the later years.

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re: Memoria Press - Somehow I missed this company in my curriculum search. The curriculum packages look like they're really well done, and, unfortunately, like they'd be a horrible fit for my son. He still struggles with manuscript writing, so I don't want to introduce cursive, and, since he can barely read English and language of any kind is hard for dyslexics, I don't need to introduce Latin at this point. That said, I'd love to teach at least one of my kids Latin someday. I took it in high school and loved it. In fact, I think a classical education would have been right up my alley. I'll file MP in the back of my mind and look at it again in a few years when DD is four. She looks just like me (DS is DH's little clone), so I'm hoping she thinks more like I do as well :).

 

Don't write them off just based on the cursive - some dyslexic or dysgraphic kids do better with cursive because you can't accidentally reverse the letters.

 

I agree with the others to look for something that fits now, not for long-term. I had a complete plan, actually several different complete plans over the last 5 years ;) but need to change it as I find out more about what works for us (and as new things are published that I want to try).

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Farrarwilliams: I think you have a point. I looked at Calvert for awhile, and I thought it just looked way too much like public school in a box. I also glanced at Abeka, and thought the same thing, except that it's Christian school in a box. I do think, though, that it would be best to start with something that's not too huge a transition, and MFW might be too huge a transition (it does look fun, though). I think Oak Meadow and MBTP could both offer something that bears some resemblance to what we're used to while packaging it in a much more creative and fun way.

 

I think, in a way, curriculum your first year after leaving public school, is more for you and your comfort than for your child. Which is totally fine, of course. :) I would agree that MBtP (and maybe OM, though I generally steer clear of all things Waldorf - yes, I know "Waldorf inspired" etc. etc.) will be a nice step away - different enough to feel like something different, but structured enough to feel comfortable. And then, once you have your footing and know your kid's learning style and your own teaching and organizing style a little better and so forth, you may decide you want a totally different approach. Which is perfectly fine too.

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He still struggles with manuscript writing, so I don't want to introduce cursive, and, since he can barely read English and language of any kind is hard for dyslexics, I don't need to introduce Latin at this point.

 

 

 

Try teaching him cursive. Start now after school, very slowly. I have a 9yo ds who has never been diagnosed, but I'm 99% positive is dyslexic. (I have the family history to back it up also, thick on each side of the family tree.;)) His print is terrible. I used to say it looks normal for a 6yo boy...and it still looks normal for a 6yo boy. No improvement in neatness or reversals, etc...in 3 years.:001_huh: His cursive, however, is nice and neat and legible even. It seems to go against the grain, but for some kids cursive is easier. (Mine was relieved that I let him revert back to cursive for all work this fall.:lol:)

 

Don't write off Latin (or another language) for him at this point. (Don't worry about it now either...just get him settled in first.) But, my ds9 loves Latin and is quite capable of picking it up orally. Especially b/c you took it in high school, you could simply begin teaching him some vocab and chants. Traditional methods (like Memoria Press, however much I drool over MP) will probably be a flop for the reasons you mentioned. (...but that is down the road...)

 

 

My .02 fwiw: Set aside researching curricula for now. Research how to tutor a dyslexic child. Study your ds. Figure out how to get him reading and writing. When your dh sees that you are tutoring him at home and making strides...and school seems to take up time that you could be tutoring him...he may be much more willing to try HSing. And if not, your ds will still have the benefit of a 24/7 tutor.

 

 

 

Dyslexia is a broad term, and different kids have different struggles. My ds struggles mainly with the visual aspects of reading/writing. If you want to hear me ramble (:tongue_smilie:), I'd be happy to share what we've used and what has worked and what hasn't.

 

 

 

What you choose for history and science and literature is not nearly as important as choosing the right LA and Math materials for a dyslexic. Choose LA materials that work heavily on his weakness. (Ex. My ds9 had/has major issues with eye tracking...so it's no surprise that major breakthroughs happened when we worked through a book that spent enormous amounts of time training the eye to track.) Choose a math that does not rely heavily on his weakness. Don't let math suffer b/c he has troubles reading & writing. As an aside, note to dh whenever ds seems to get the actual math, but is held up by the lack of accommodations for his dyslexia. (Ex. Maybe he knows his math facts cold orally, but consistently fails timed tests b/c he keeps reversing numbers. Maybe he can figure out word problems easily if they are read to him, but stares over the worksheet at his desk alone...)

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Try teaching him cursive. Start now after school, very slowly. I have a 9yo ds who has never been diagnosed, but I'm 99% positive is dyslexic. (I have the family history to back it up also, thick on each side of the family tree.;)) His print is terrible. I used to say it looks normal for a 6yo boy...and it still looks normal for a 6yo boy. No improvement in neatness or reversals, etc...in 3 years.:001_huh: His cursive, however, is nice and neat and legible even. It seems to go against the grain, but for some kids cursive is easier. (Mine was relieved that I let him revert back to cursive for all work this fall.:lol:)

 

I'll keep that in mind. DS has actually been asking about cursive and trying to make his manuscript letters connect, so he may just take to it if I get a workbook and present it as after school fun. Unfortunately, I think his school would put up a battle if he tried to write in cursive, but I haven't tried teaching it yet, so there's no need to worry about crossing a bridge that hasn't even been built :).

 

Don't write off Latin (or another language) for him at this point. (Don't worry about it now either...just get him settled in first.) But, my ds9 loves Latin and is quite capable of picking it up orally. Especially b/c you took it in high school, you could simply begin teaching him some vocab and chants. Traditional methods (like Memoria Press, however much I drool over MP) will probably be a flop for the reasons you mentioned. (...but that is down the road...)

 

I still think I'll hold off on Latin or any language for now, except for maybe introducing some Spanish vocab, which DS asks about on occasion because he has some friends at school from Spanish speaking homes (one of the things I like about his school is the diversity). My major was Spanish, so he thinks I should know everything there is to know about it, though I don't always know the common household words he wants to know :). DS has Chinese at school and detests it.

 

 

My .02 fwiw: Set aside researching curricula for now. Research how to tutor a dyslexic child. Study your ds. Figure out how to get him reading and writing. When your dh sees that you are tutoring him at home and making strides...and school seems to take up time that you could be tutoring him...he may be much more willing to try HSing. And if not, your ds will still have the benefit of a 24/7 tutor.

 

DS already goes to a private tutor for two hours a week after school. In addition to working through Barton Reading and Spelling, she works with him on memory tricks to help with sequences (anything in a sequence is difficult for him to memorize, including knowing numbers in order, which his big problem with math). She also works on visual tracking. I don't want to overwhelm him too much with more work at home in addition to homework, but I could definitely talk to his tutor about things I could do at home to reinforce what she's doing, especially when we're doing homework. He's only on day 5 of the year, so he hasn't gotten any just yet. His tutor has already noticed a difference in his ability to pay attention when he comes after school as opposed to when he came in the morning during the summer. So far, that hasn't impressed DH enough to think he should be pulled from school.

 

 

Dyslexia is a broad term, and different kids have different struggles. My ds struggles mainly with the visual aspects of reading/writing. If you want to hear me ramble (:tongue_smilie:), I'd be happy to share what we've used and what has worked and what hasn't.

 

Feel free to send me a PM and tell me what has worked for you.

 

 

What you choose for history and science and literature is not nearly as important as choosing the right LA and Math materials for a dyslexic. Choose LA materials that work heavily on his weakness. (Ex. My ds9 had/has major issues with eye tracking...so it's no surprise that major breakthroughs happened when we worked through a book that spent enormous amounts of time training the eye to track.) Choose a math that does not rely heavily on his weakness. Don't let math suffer b/c he has troubles reading & writing. As an aside, note to dh whenever ds seems to get the actual math, but is held up by the lack of accommodations for his dyslexia. (Ex. Maybe he knows his math facts cold orally, but consistently fails timed tests b/c he keeps reversing numbers. Maybe he can figure out word problems easily if they are read to him, but stares over the worksheet at his desk alone...)

 

Thanks for that encouragement! I think I'll file Oak Meadow in my mind as possibly the best program for him if I pull him out, and focus on helping him succeed in Math and LA in school in the meantime. I'm trying to decide the best way to help him in Math outside of school. He does well understanding concepts, but really struggles with the details, and still struggles with basic counting. Just this summer he finally started counting from 0-20 without skipping numbers as well as counting to 100 by 10's. His school uses a version of Singapore (Math in Focus), which didn't seem to be a good fit for him last year. With his counting ability improving, that could change. I think I'll wait until he gets some Math homework and see how that goes before I make any other decisions.

 

To the person who asked about Sonlight: That was actually the first program I looked at. I loved the look of it, but decided it would be too much reading and not enough activity for DS. I know they include a CD with suggested activities now, but, if the activity isn't an integral part of the lesson like it is in MBTP or Oak Meadow, I don't think it would get done. It's another one I'm filing in my mind as something that might work for his book loving sister in the future, or maybe even for him some years down the road.

 

Thanks for all the suggestions! Now I need to play with my one year old and enjoy the fact that I don't currently have another one to teach :).

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My biggest suggestion is to pick what you think will work best for the here and now, when and if you decide to bring your son home.

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I would agree.

You can always change your mind.

You said you like to be a planner?

Does your student like things planned out like that too?

Might be worth considering

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My son likes to make grand plans, and then not always follow through on them... but, yes, I think he'll need something planned out as much as I will if we bring him home. He wants to know what we're doing and when we're doing it. Saying something like, "So, what do you want to study now?" would probably elicit no answer. Well, either that or he'd want to study all weather all the time. He's super excited that there's currently a tropical storm with his name :).

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