kalanamak Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I know it is less than an oz. Or do I have to buy numbered stamps? Forevers are .45 now, right? And an oz or less to Canada is .83. Will two Forevers get it delivered or returned. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calendula Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 My understanding is that forevers are worth the current rate of a first class letter that weighs less than an ounce, so yes - you could put two forever stamps on there and send it on its way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLG Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I do it to France so sure. USPS says an ounce to Canada or Mexico is $.85. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) . Edited January 6, 2023 by Wildcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucyStoner Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Say what!?? I was told that I couldn't use Forever stamps to send mail outside the country because it didn't have the US$ amount on them, so the other country wouldn't know if there was enough postage. Granted, I asked about this back when the Forever stamp was new, so things may have changed. I'm going to have to check on this, as I mail things to three other countries and I would *love* to not have to constantly buy special stamps for that stuff! I think they had to change that policy when USPS phased out regular first class stamps in favor of forever stamps to cut costs (expensive for them to print and sell filler stamps every year.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapmom3 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I mailed a letter to Germany last week. The post office told me that while technically you can use Forever stamps to send mail out of the country, they are getting complaints of undelivered mail or undeliverable mail because the stamps don't have the amount of postage on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfgivas Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 i've had it work to toronto, edmonton, niagara on the lake, victoria.... and i've not had it not work. but like many things, it may depend on the human at the other end..... ymmv, ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura in CA Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Oh wow, this is useful to know. I send mail to England, Switzerland, Germany, etc. and never even thought this could be a problem. The things I learn on this board! :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalanamak Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 i've had it work to toronto, edmonton, niagara on the lake, victoria.... and i've not had it not work. but like many things, it may depend on the human at the other end..... ymmv, ann So if it "doesn't work" the letter just comes back to you? How do countries deal with shared postage? I always thought the money stayed with the sending country and the delivering country did it for "free" (and kept all the postage fee for letters going the other way). If that is so, why would Canada care? And, since the money came to the US post office, if the US post office does share the fee, it would be them sending money to Canada. Why would Canada care? Surely, if there is some fee-sharing going on (which sounds cumbersome to me), unless the US said: gosh, there is no amount on that stamp, so sorry Canada, we won't pay you, why would Canada care? Why would the US refuse to give the share if the US recognizes the stamp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxMom Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 My first thought was exactly that: why would they care? But now that it's been said that sometimes they're being returned... Well. A whole new area of what goes on outside of our knowledge has just opened up, hasn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) . Edited January 6, 2023 by Wildcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impish Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I dunno, but you can send something to me, and I'll let you know if it gets here...you know, as an experiment. That's me, happy to help :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) . Edited January 6, 2023 by Wildcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calendula Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 So.... who is going to find out the answers for us? :bigear: :D Surely someone here has a kid doing a usps project.... :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMA Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) From: http://about.usps.com/mailpro/2011/mar-apr/page4.htm Q: Can Forever stamps be used for international mail? A: Customers can use Forever stamps for international mail, but since all international prices are higher than domestic prices, customers will need to attach additional postage. The value of the Forever stamp is the domestic First-Class Mail 1-ounce letter price in effect on the day of use. I have mailed internationally and to Canada with Forever stamps. The woman at the window could tell me the actual value of the Forever stamp when I bought it. That is the value you use for mailing internationally, not the current value. So if you use an older Forever stamp, it will only have the value of the stamp at the time of purchase. They can tell by the design. She would either add more stamps or just print a label for the different in postage. This holds true for mailing to Canada. Edited August 21, 2012 by LMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I dunno, but you can send something to me, and I'll let you know if it gets here...you know, as an experiment. That's me, happy to help :D Surely someone here has a kid doing a usps project.... :001_smile: :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jen3kids Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I was at to PO yesterday and the lady said yes, but you need to put 2 on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalanamak Posted August 22, 2012 Author Share Posted August 22, 2012 From: http://about.usps.com/mailpro/2011/mar-apr/page4.htm So if you use an older Forever stamp, it will only have the value of the stamp at the time of purchase. They can tell by the design. She would either add more stamps or just print a label for the different in postage. This holds true for mailing to Canada. Humm, I do have older stamps. 2 would have covered it, but to massage the hearts of the mail gods, I stuck on 3. Got my fingies crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardening momma Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 This I have mailed internationally and to Canada with Forever stamps. The woman at the window could tell me the actual value of the Forever stamp when I bought it. That is the value you use for mailing internationally, not the current value. So if you use an older Forever stamp, it will only have the value of the stamp at the time of purchase. contradicts this From: http://about.usps.com/mailpro/2011/mar-apr/page4.htm Q: Can Forever stamps be used for international mail? A: Customers can use Forever stamps for international mail, but since all international prices are higher than domestic prices, customers will need to attach additional postage. The value of the Forever stamp is the domestic First-Class Mail 1-ounce letter price in effect on the day of use. I understand needing to add postage to get up to Canada's (or any country's) rate, but the stamp is worth what a current Forever stamp is worth on the day of use (for either one, new or old). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upward Journey Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Yes, 2 forever stamps will get a letter to Canada safe and sound :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxMom Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Humm, I do have older stamps. 2 would have covered it, but to massage the hearts of the mail gods, I stuck on 3. Got my fingies crossed. Well, now it will be stopped as suspicious because it has an inordinate amount of postage on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxMom Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I understand needing to add postage to get up to Canada's (or any country's) rate, but the stamp is worth what a current Forever stamp is worth on the day of use (for either one, new or old). Right. Isn't that what makes them "forever" and not face-value stamps? And has anyone figured out why Canada (or any other destination country) cares how much USPS collects for the post? That is the question that bugs me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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