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#1 LAR

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 09:40 PM

HBC has Science Fusion on sale in August. I'd like to buy grades 2 and 4, but am having a tough time finding a solid review. Anyone using it? I welcome any comments, pros/cons. Thanks.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:57 PM

No users out there? Hmm. Maybe I should spend my cash elsewhere. Thanks.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:19 PM

We're going to use grade 4 this year, but we don't start until August 22nd. I have done most of the lesson planning, though, so I'm pretty familiar with it. So far, it looks good. There is a LOT of content. The book is huge, and there is a lot of online content also. There are also a lot of experiments. Honestly, the lesson planning was harder than I thought it would be... there is so much to wade through. I planned 175 lessons and still had to leave things out...I only selected the experiments that looked the most fun.

This isn't polished, but here is our rough-draft plan:
(see next post)



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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:21 PM

1. Unit 1, Lesson 1 (Watch Digital Lesson and Complete Book pages 1-13)
2. Unit 1, Lesson 1 Review (Book pages 14-16)
3. Unit 1, Lesson 1 Quiz
4. Unit 1, Lesson 2 (Watch Digital Lesson and Complete Book pages 17-23)
5. Pendulum swing
6. Unit 1, Lesson 2 Review (pages 24-26)
7. Pantry Investigation
8. Unit 1, Lesson 2 Quiz
9. Unit 1, Lesson 3 (Watch Digital Lesson and Complete Book pages 27-37)
10. Unit 1, Lesson 3 Review (pages 38-40)
11. Unit 1, Lesson 3 Quiz
12. Unit 1, Lesson 4 Virtual Lab (complete on computer and record results on lab sheets)
13. Unit 1, Lesson 4 Quiz and Read book p. 43-44
14. Unit 1, Lesson 5 (Watch digital Lesson and complete pages 45-51)
15. Unit 1, Lesson 5 Review (pages 52-54)
16. Unit 1 less 5 quiz
17. Unit 1 , Lesson 6 Virtual Lab (complete on computer and record results on lab sheets) and lesson 6 quiz
18. Unit 2, Lesson 1 Watch lesson, then complete p. 61-71
19. Unit 2, Lesson 1 Review p. 72-76
20. Unit 2, Lesson 1 Quiz
21. Unit 2, Lesson 2—Watch Virtual Lab and record results
22. Unit 2 Lesson 2 Egg Experiment, book p. 77-78
23. Unit 2, Lesson 2 Quiz
24. Unit 2, Lesson 3 (Watch Lesson and complete p. 79-89)
25. Unit 2, Lesson 3 Review p. 90-92
26. Unit 2, Lesson 3 Quiz
27. Unit 2, Lesson 4 Virtual Lab and record results
28. Read and Complete p. 95-96 and Unit 2, Lesson 4 quiz
29. Video-Based Project-- airplanes
30. Unit 3, Lesson 1 (Watch lesson, then complete p. 101-111)
31. Celery project
32. Unit 3, Lesson 1 Review p. 112-114
33. Unit 3, Lesson 1 Quiz
34. STEM p. 115-116
35. Unit 3, Lesson 2—watch online, complete p. 117-127
36. Unit 3, Lesson 2 Review p. 128-132
37. Unit 3, Lesson 2 Quiz
38. Unit 3, Lesson 3 Virtual lab
39. Unit 3, Lesson 3 Quiz
40. Unit 3, Lesson 4 (watch lesson and complete p. 135-145)
41. Unit 3, Lesson 4 Review p. 146-148
42. Unit 3 Lesson 4 Quiz
43. Careers p. 149-150
44. Unit 3, Lesson 5- watch online, complete p. 151-161
45. Cold as ice Experiment
46. Review p. 162-164
47. Unit 3, Lesson 5 quiz
48. Bird beaks experiment
49. Unit 3, Lesson 6 virtual lab and results
50. Lesson 6 quiz
51. Video project—alligators up close
52. Unit 4, Lesson 1—watch, complete p.171-183
53. Unit 4, lesson 1 review p. 184-186
54. Review p. 187-188 and lesson 1 quiz
55. Unit 4, Lesson 2 watch, complete p. 189-199
56. Unit 4 lesson 2 review p. 200-204
57. Unit 4 lesson 2 quiz
58. Unit 4 lesson 3 virtual lab—record results
59. Unit 4 lesson 3 quiz
60. Unit 4 lesson 4—watch, complete p. 207-217
61. Unit 4 lesson 4 review p. 218-220
62. Unit 4 lesson 4 quiz
63. Unit 4, lesson 5—watch, read p. 221-22
64. Acid rain experiment set-up
65. Unit 4 lesson 5 review p. 230-232
66. Unit 4 lesson 5 quiz
67. Unit 4 lesson 6 virtual lab
68. Unit 4 lesson 6 quiz
69. Read p. 235-238
70. Rainforest video project
71. Acid rain results write-up
72. Unit 5, lesson 1 watch, then do p. 243-253
73. Lesson 1 review p. 254-256
74. Lesson 1 review p. 257-258
75. Lesson 1 quiz

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:22 PM

76. Lesson 2—watch, read p. 259-269
77. Lesson 2 review p. 270-272
78. Lesson 2 quiz
79. Lesson 3—watch, p. 273-281
80. Lesson 3 review—p. 282-284
81. Lesson 3 quiz
82. Stem p. 285-286
83. Lesson 4 virtual lab and results
84. Lesson 4 quiz
85. People p. 289-290
86. Unit 6, lesson 1—watch, p. 307
87. Unit 6, lesson 1 review p. 308-309
88. Review, p. 310-312
89. Unit 6 lesson 1 quiz
90. People, p. 313-4
91. Lesson 2- watch, p. 315-320
92. Review p. 322-324
93. Lesson 2 quiz
94. Lesson 3 virtual lab
95. Lesson 3 quiz
96. Lesson 4—watch, then pages 327-337
97. Review, p. 338-340
98. Lesson 4 quiz
99. Stem p. 341-342
100. Lesson 5 virtual lab
101. Lesson 5 quiz
102. Unit 7, lesson 1—watch, then p. 361
103. Lesson 1 review, p. 362-364
104. Lesson 1 review, p. 365-366
105. Measuring liquids experiment
106. Lesson 1 quiz
107. Lesson 2 virtual lab
108. Lesson 2 quiz
109. Careers p. 369-370
110. Lesson 3 virtual lab
111. Lesson 3 quiz
112. Lesson 4- watch, p. 373-379
113. Lesson 4 review, p. 380-382
114. Lesson 4 quiz
115. Stem p. 383-384
116. Unit 8, lesson 1—watch, p. 389-99
117. Lesson 1 review, p. 400-402
118. Lesson 1 quiz
119. Lesson 2 virtual lab
120. Solutions experiment, p. 403
121. Lesson 2 quiz
122. Lesson 3—watch, p. 405-413
123. Lesson 3 review, p. 414-416
124. Kitchen chemistry experiment
125. Lesson 3 quiz
126. Stem p. 417-418
127. Lesson 4 virtual lab
128. Lesson 4 quiz
129. People p. 421-2
130. Unit 9, Lesson 1—watch, p. 427-439
131. Lesson 1 review p. 440-442
132. Review p. 443-444
133. Lesson 1 quiz
134. Lesson 2 virtual lab
135. Lesson 2 quiz
136. Lesson 3, watch, p. 447-453
137. Lesson 3 review p. 454-458
138. Lesson 3 quiz
139. Lesson 4 virtual lab
140. Lesson 4 quiz
141. Careers p. 461-2
142. Lesson 5 – watch, p. 463-469
143. Lesson 5 review, p. 470-472
144. Lesson 5 quiz
145. Conductors experiment
146. Lesson 6 virtual lab
147. Lesson 6 quiz
148. Stem p. 475-6
149. Unit 10, lesson 1—watch, then p. 491
150. Lesson 1 review p. 492-4
151. Cereal experiment
152. Lesson 1 review p. 495-6
153. Lesson 1 quiz
154. Lesson 2 virtual lab
155. Balloon experiment p. 497
156. Lesson 2 quiz
157. Electric experiment p. 499
158. Lesson 3 virtual lab
159. Lesson 3 quiz
160. Lesson 4- watch, p. 501-509
161. Lesson 4 review p. 510-514
162. Lesson 4 quiz
163. Careers, p. 516
164. Lesson 5- watch p. 517-525
165. Build an electromagnet experiment
166. Lesson 5 review, p. 527-528
167. Lesson 5 quiz
168. Stem p. 529-530
169. Unit 11, lesson 1 watch—p. 535-546
170. Unit 11 review p. 548-550
171. Unit 11 review p. 551-552
172. Unit 11, lesson 1 quiz
173. Lesson 2 virtual lab
174. Unit 11, lesson 2 quiz
175. Careers/stem p. 555-558

Let me know if you have any questions that I can answer. :)

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 02:45 AM

Not a user but remembered seeing it on the Free Homeschooling thread..here..

http://cenes.pasco.k...us/?page_id=200

Of course.. it may not be there for the whole school year and then you would have missed it on HSBC..

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 08:18 AM

We're going to use grade 4 this year, but we don't start until August 22nd. I have done most of the lesson planning, though, so I'm pretty familiar with it. So far, it looks good. There is a LOT of content. The book is huge, and there is a lot of online content also. There are also a lot of experiments. Honestly, the lesson planning was harder than I thought it would be... there is so much to wade through. I planned 175 lessons and still had to leave things out...I only selected the experiments that looked the most fun.

This isn't polished, but here is our rough-draft plan:
(see next post)


I just started getting into ScienceFusion (3rd grade)that I purchased the last HSBC sale. I've got the teacher/student set up with logins; but I can't figure out how to assign a lesson. So say you want to assign the digital lesson 1; how did you go about doing it? I went through the lesson on the teacher edition and I am very pleased with how everything looks. The worktext is as much as a full textbook in PS. I was going to follow both the digital and parts of the text path. I just need to figure out how to get the assignments to show up. BTW, your schedule looks great!:001_smile:

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:28 PM

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anyone else? I am considering this as well...

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 04:42 AM

We've got grade 5 my 3rd and 6th grader will work through in a " do the next thing" way. We don't start school for a couple weeks so I don't know if I'll need to beef things up for 6th grader or cut back for 3rd grader.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 11:55 AM

I just started getting into ScienceFusion (3rd grade)that I purchased the last HSBC sale. I've got the teacher/student set up with logins; but I can't figure out how to assign a lesson. So say you want to assign the digital lesson 1; how did you go about doing it? I went through the lesson on the teacher edition and I am very pleased with how everything looks. The worktext is as much as a full textbook in PS. I was going to follow both the digital and parts of the text path. I just need to figure out how to get the assignments to show up. BTW, your schedule looks great!:001_smile:


In the teacher edition, if you click on a unit and lesson that you want to assign, the Lesson Level Resources will show up on the right side of the screen. Click on Lesson Student Resources, and check the box under Assign for any resources you want to assign. Then click the "A" button and you will be taken to a page where you can name the assignment, select student(s), and select an availability and due date.

Thanks--I hope this helps!

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:17 PM

In the teacher edition, if you click on a unit and lesson that you want to assign, the Lesson Level Resources will show up on the right side of the screen. Click on Lesson Student Resources, and check the box under Assign for any resources you want to assign. Then click the "A" button and you will be taken to a page where you can name the assignment, select student(s), and select an availability and due date.

Thanks--I hope this helps!



I wasn't totally crazy! I called and there was some sort of glitch that they have to fix. They tried it on their side and it didn't work either. I was feeling pretty inept before I called them! Thank you though for getting back with me. Can't wait to start planning!

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:25 PM

Would this program work well for a visual learner who very much enjoys science? She would be using the middle school modules.

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 06:12 PM

In the teacher edition, if you click on a unit and lesson that you want to assign, the Lesson Level Resources will show up on the right side of the screen. Click on Lesson Student Resources, and check the box under Assign for any resources you want to assign. Then click the "A" button and you will be taken to a page where you can name the assignment, select student(s), and select an availability and due date.

Thanks--I hope this helps!


I should have read this before spending an hour on the phone with tech support (in India) today. He couldn't help me assign the lessons.

Now I see how to do it based on your instructions. And it works.

Thank you!

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 06:14 PM

Would this program work well for a visual learner who very much enjoys science? She would be using the middle school modules.


I will know more after we get going. The middle school modules are very meaty. The student text/workbooks are excellent.

Did you try the sample?

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 06:22 PM

I will know more after we get going. The middle school modules are very meaty. The student text/workbooks are excellent.

Did you try the sample?

Yes and it looks great. I am, however, concerned with a few posts I've read about how difficult it can be to implement. Please let me know how it goes for you.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 06:59 PM

Yes and it looks great. I am, however, concerned with a few posts I've read about how difficult it can be to implement. Please let me know how it goes for you.


It's over 100 degrees here today so we're cooped up inside. Seemed like a good day to start with Module A: Cells & Heredity.

We watched the student interactive portion. We then read a few pages of the first chapter (along with the audio portion), stopping to fill in the blanks and discuss, make diagrams, etc. This will be our routine and it fits with her learning style. It's a nice blend of computer, audio/visual, workbook, discussion.

I'm not going to 'make assignments' on the website since we'll be doing the program together. We won't be doing the tests but will do the unit quizes.

I'm still searching the depths of teacher resources for the answers to the workbook pages. Calling customer service tomorrow. I'm sure it's right in front of me but I don't see it. :tongue_smilie:

ETA: I found the answers to the workbook pages. Right where they are supposed to be. :)

The content is very through for a young student. I don't expect dd to master/memorize all the vocab and content.

The feel of this first module reminds me of Biology: Exploring Life by Campbell which I own.

HTH!

Edited by Beth in SW WA, 16 August 2012 - 07:07 PM.


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Posted 16 August 2012 - 07:15 PM

It's over 100 degrees here today so we're cooped up inside. Seemed like a good day to start with Module A: Cells & Heredity.

We watched the student interactive portion. We then read a few pages of the first chapter (along with the audio portion), stopping to fill in the blanks and discuss, make diagrams, etc. This will be our routine and it fits with her learning style. It's a nice blend of computer, audio/visual, workbook, discussion.

I'm not going to 'make assignments' on the website since we'll be doing the program together. We won't be doing the tests but will do the unit quizes.

I'm still searching the depths of teacher resources for the answers to the workbook pages. Calling customer service tomorrow. I'm sure it's right in front of me but I don't see it. :tongue_smilie:

ETA: I found the answers to the workbook pages. Right where they are supposed to be. :)

The content is very through for a young student. I don't expect dd to master/memorize all the vocab and content.

The feel of this first module reminds me of Biology: Exploring Life by Campbell which I own.

HTH!

We were looking at the Cells and Heredity - is it as child friendly and "cool" (as Autumn put it) as the sample lesson?

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 07:40 PM

We were looking at the Cells and Heredity - is it as child friendly and "cool" (as Autumn put it) as the sample lesson?


I think so. I would wait unti HSBC has another sale.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 09:01 PM

It looks really neat but I'm turned off by how difficult it is to view samples. I also don't understand how you use it w/ a 2nd child. Can you purchase an additional year of online support or would you need to purchase an entirely new set? It's very unclear in info available how much of the program is online vs. on a cd/dvd. Would it even be possible to use it without purchasing the online support?

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 11:11 PM

It looks really neat but I'm turned off by how difficult it is to view samples. I also don't understand how you use it w/ a 2nd child. Can you purchase an additional year of online support or would you need to purchase an entirely new set? It's very unclear in info available how much of the program is online vs. on a cd/dvd. Would it even be possible to use it without purchasing the online support?


I thought the samples were quite thorough.

For the middle school modules, it appears that multiple kids can watch any element of the online portion. It doesn't keep track. You can log in and out of the program to watch and re-watch. Skip around. Whatever.

Dd is writing in her consumable workbooks.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 03:32 AM

I think so. I would wait unti HSBC has another sale.

I think HSBC's sale runs until the 31st.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 05:21 AM

I thought the samples were quite thorough.

For the middle school modules, it appears that multiple kids can watch any element of the online portion. It doesn't keep track. You can log in and out of the program to watch and re-watch. Skip around. Whatever.

Dd is writing in her consumable workbooks.


Thanks for the link! I couldn't access anything from the hmh homepage.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 07:51 AM

I've read all the comments about Science Fusion. Can you please tell me which version was purchased, digital or print?

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 08:31 AM

I've read all the comments about Science Fusion. Can you please tell me which version was purchased, digital or print?

Each purchase comes with both digital and print, I believe.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 08:36 AM

Each purchase comes with both digital and print, I believe.


Are you happy with your purchase?

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 08:58 AM

Are you happy with your purchase?


I am. The price was $27 for 1 middle school module for 1 year. I bought 3 modules.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 01:43 PM

Are you happy with your purchase?

I haven't purchased it - just read a million reviews and thought about it. Lol.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 01:43 PM

I am. The price was $27 for 1 middle school module for 1 year. I bought 3 modules.

How much more did you spend for labs? How teacher intensive ARE the labs? I know there are some *virtual* labs, but I've also read that there are hands on labs necessary for the "meat" of the program.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 10:07 AM

How much more did you spend for labs? How teacher intensive ARE the labs? I know there are some *virtual* labs, but I've also read that there are hands on labs necessary for the "meat" of the program.


I did not buy the lab materials. They will do the virtual labs in SF and online elsewhere as well as outsourced labs with a tutor (winter) and another local class. If dd was using the program as intended (late middle school) I would stick more closely to the script. We do so much science that I'm not trying to align them all. They seem to enjoy random exposure to topics.

Try the logic board for info on the SF hands-on labs. :)

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 10:43 AM

I posted an overview of the program on this thread.

There's a 27 minute video that takes you through it and will answer most of your questions.

I just bought it through the HSBC sale, so I can't tell you anything more about it yet. I'm just excited to be able check off science for my 7th grader.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:31 AM

I thought the samples were quite thorough.

For the middle school modules, it appears that multiple kids can watch any element of the online portion. It doesn't keep track. You can log in and out of the program to watch and re-watch. Skip around. Whatever.

Dd is writing in her consumable workbooks.


THANKS! I wish I'd come here before wading through the convoluted HMH website(s).

I posted an overview of the program on this thread.

There's a 27 minute video that takes you through it and will answer most of your questions.

I just bought it through the HSBC sale, so I can't tell you anything more about it yet. I'm just excited to be able check off science for my 7th grader.


I will check this out, thx.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 08:03 PM

Beth said, ETA: I found the answers to the workbook pages. Right where they are supposed to be. :)

And where would this be?? I can't find it. (But I'm in Gr. 5, not the middle school modules.) Guess I'll have to make a phone call.:glare:

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 08:31 PM

I'm doing the 5th grade program with my s/n son. I stumbled upon the answers yesterday. I will look it up and post late tonight or tomorrow if you'd like.



Beth said, ETA: I found the answers to the workbook pages. Right where they are supposed to be. :)

And where would this be?? I can't find it. (But I'm in Gr. 5, not the middle school modules.) Guess I'll have to make a phone call.:glare:



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Posted 25 August 2012 - 10:08 PM

Yes, please, dsmith!!!

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 10:34 PM

i have 6 days to make up my mind:) if i do it, it will be the 5th grade level. anyone have any negative feedback yet?

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 10:45 PM

Well, I'm still trying to figure it out, and I'm afraid that by the time I do, my year will be expired!:glare: There's a LOT of info there, and I don't consider it to be very user-friendly. I wonder if classroom teachers have to take a day or two of in-service to learn the ins and outs of the program. Science has been our least explored subject, and I was hoping this option would be easier on me, the science dummy. Not so. :001_unsure:

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 10:52 PM

Science has been our least explored subject, and I was hoping this option would be easier on me, the science dummy. Not so. :001_unsure:


Bummer - same for me here - I was hoping it was more open and go and self directed...hmmmm...

Thanks for the input - it is helpful

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 06:44 AM

Others have said that it CAN be used open an go! Those of you that are having such difficulties, are you trying to lesson plan the whole year? Has anyone else just used it as open and go? I am saying, just have the dc log on and do the next thing using the pacing guide as the schedule. I know the tests need to be assigned. I need to decide what I'm doing. I'm scared to purchase!

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 08:36 AM

I thought the samples were quite thorough.

For the middle school modules, it appears that multiple kids can watch any element of the online portion. It doesn't keep track. You can log in and out of the program to watch and re-watch. Skip around. Whatever.

Dd is writing in her consumable workbooks.


The samples Beth gave make it look like it's open and go if you use the pacing guide. Is that what the Student Edition program looks like when you first get it or after you've assigned everything?

We're a fairly techie family, so I'm not too worried about ds not being able to figure it out if it's a little complicated. It looks to me, that they just give a lot of options for teaching the same thing. I plan on letting ds get a feel for what he prefers (digital or print or both) in the first month and going from there. I hope to do most or all the labs, most likely falling a bit short. If I see something I want to add in like the History Channel videos, it will be much easier to assign it. Ds loves to check things off. ;)

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 09:42 AM

The samples Beth gave make it look like it's open and go if you use the pacing guide. Is that what the Student Edition program looks like when you first get it or after you've assigned everything?


This is a great question! So far, I am thinking open and go looks doable based on the sample that Beth posted. It never dawned on me that the sample may have looked that way because it was "assigned."

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 08:29 PM

Bump! Hoping someone can answer the question above.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 09:06 PM

This is a great question! So far, I am thinking open and go looks doable based on the sample that Beth posted. It never dawned on me that the sample may have looked that way because it was "assigned."

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I am not using the pacing guide. No box-checking here. I am not assigning lessons. We just log in and go to the Resources tab, click on the module and start where we left off.

Just follow the instructions in the greeting letter to set up the student(s).

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 09:17 PM

Is this program completely online, including the labs, and in the worktext? Or are there hands-on labs and activities that have to be done? How teacher -intensive is it?

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 02:14 AM

I was having a lot of trouble accessing the teacher edition until I switched from Google Chrome to Internet Explorer. Once I switched to IE and enabled pop ups from the site, I had no problem accessing it. After logging in, click on the main part of the screen, titled Resources. Next, click on Science Fusion Teacher Access Grade ___. (In my case, it is grade 5.) On the left, it will show a list of units, and on the right, a list of resources available. Click on the unit you need on the left side, and then click on the lesson needed, also on the left side. On the right side of the screen, select Lesson Teacher Support. It will bring up a list of resources for that lesson, including the Teacher's Edition. Clicking on that will bring up a PDF of the TE. If you are the lecturing type, there is also a nice PowerNotes presentation to go along with the print edition. Hope that helps! I wish there were videos that explained the teacher resources in detail. It is a bit confusing!




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Posted 27 August 2012 - 02:38 AM

I don't think the program has to be online at all (for the student, at least) if you don't wish it to be. There is a work text that comes with the program, and for each lesson there is an inquiry that goes with it. You would have to go online and print the needed resources for that. PowerNotes presentations are available to match the book, which could be useful for lecture material. The program could also be done only using the online digital lesson, but the inquiry is still done offline. There are some completely digital labs, but I'm not sure how many there are. With ds, we are doing a combination of digital/online. He loves the text, but also likes the online aspect. We haven't been doing every inquiry, at least for the first unit. I haven't looked ahead very much. It's taken some time to get used to the layout and familiarize myself with what's available. I keep finding new things every time I spend some time looking around.






Is this program completely online, including the labs, and in the worktext? Or are there hands-on labs and activities that have to be done? How teacher -intensive is it?



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Posted 27 August 2012 - 05:23 AM

Here's how our first two weeks have gone. I have a 3rd grader and 6th grader using grade 5. They just get on and do the next thing. The 6th grader is dodging the exercises is the print book. I found quizzes, etc in the teacher edition. We're just doing the next thing so no assigning anything. So far they are doing fine. They don't enjoy anything but at least this is getting done.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:40 AM

Here's how our first two weeks have gone. I have a 3rd grader and 6th grader using grade 5. They just get on and do the next thing. The 6th grader is dodging the exercises is the print book. I found quizzes, etc in the teacher edition. We're just doing the next thing so no assigning anything. So far they are doing fine. They don't enjoy anything but at least this is getting done.


Why are they not enjoying it? If I purchase, I will also have a 6th grader using it. I was planning to purchase middle school modules a,b, and c. Is there anything in particular they complain about? I am still up in the air about this program. I need to just decide already! I wish I didn't have to purchase all the modules I want up front. That would make it so much easier. I wish this was an ongoing buy with HSBC. Then I could just try 1.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 05:46 PM

Thank you, thank you, thank you!! All I needed to do was to turn off the pop-up blocker!:blushing: It is beginning to make a little more sense. Is there any way to print the teacher's edition?

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 10:12 AM

I have one ds in grade 4 and one dd who is almost done with module A. Here are some of my thoughts:

The pacing guide for 4th grade is ridiculous. To get him to finish the book he would almost have to do two lessons a week and that was way too much for him. I just schedule one chapter a week. I do spend the time assigning lessons (which I must say is slow and a pain but once I got used to it, it has been fine). I just go to the Teacher Edition online and go to lesson level and then start with assigning the digital lesson for monday, the quiz for wednesday (which he has to review in the book and there is a helpful printout as well for kids with reading comprehension issues), and then the inquiry flipchart on friday. He has a scientific notebook which we use for his experiments.

For my 6th grade dd, who is doing module A, I assign the lesson for monday, the quiz for wednesday (using the book as review), and we do experiments on friday and saturday. We have had to really pare down on the number of labs because it was TOTALLY overwhelming doing 3-5 labs per chapter. My husband is a scientist and we just sit down and pick one (maybe two if they are short and very interesting). She loves microscopy so we have done quite a bit of that and stayed away from the labs that take over 1/2 hour. Some last over an hour! Ugh.

I think the interesting thing for us is that we do it almost 100% online. I do the assigning (and printing if necessary) and they do the work with no help from me. They study for the tests and I look at the results on ThinkCentral. The labs I find to be incredibly time consuming and we have had to buy quite a few things or just skip labs due to costs. My dd has found that some of the Virtual Labs, in particular mitosis and meiosis, were scheduled wrong. She had only had the lesson for mitosis but the virtual lab scheduled by ScienceFusion to go with it was on mitosis and meiosis and she hadn't even studied meiosis yet. She was very frustrated. We have had that happen a few times.

1 pp said her kids weren't enjoying anything and that is where I am finding my kids. Science was SO fun last year (we did Apologia Human Anatomy and Physiology). I am not a good young earther and really wanted a secular science and thought ScienceFusion was going to be the answer to my prayers. It has turned out to be a little bit of a letdown. From the difficulty in scheduling to the monstrous labs and the lack of enthusiasm from the kids, it has kind of frustrating because I was so excited about it. I also think ScienceFusion has not really made any changes to ThinkCentral to help homeschoolers. You can tell it is obviously made for a classroom setting.

My PhD husband really wants them to continue with ScienceFusion next year because he wants them to have a very solid science background. I feel torn because the kids don't enjoy it. Surely there has to be a secular science that comes with labs and materials. If so, I haven't found it.

Jen

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 10:23 AM

My PhD husband really wants them to continue with ScienceFusion next year because he wants them to have a very solid science background. I feel torn because the kids don't enjoy it. Surely there has to be a secular science that comes with labs and materials. If so, I haven't found it.

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Jen, Sorry to hear it isn't working as you had hoped. I had low expectations going in which is probably why I like it so much. We aren't doing labs here and I'm not 'assigning' so it is open & go for us. The content is fabulous. Dd9 has learned a ton about cells this week in a format she enjoys. For $27, it is perfect for us.

I am green with envy that your dh is able to help teach this -- and that you are game for doing labs at home. What a gift. :)

We get to the mitosis/meiosis chapter next week. My ds saw what dd9 is learning about cells and said he didn't cover that until 10th grade bio. Not sure if I should be happy about that or not. :tongue_smilie:



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