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#1 wy_kid_wrangler04

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 09:53 PM

We plan to have dd do all 11 in high school. 3 a year grades 9-11 and 2 in 12th grade. We would be following the order recommended in the books:


9th Grade
1) Uncle Eric Talks about Personal, Career and Financial Security
2) What Ever Happened to Penny Candy?
3) Whatever Happened To Justice

10th Grade
4) Are You Liberal, Conservative, Confused?
5) Ancient Rome and How if Affects you Today
6) Evaluating Books: What Would Thomas Jefferson Think About This?

11th Grade
7) The Money Mystery: Hidden Force Affecting Your Career, Business and Investments
8) The Clipper Ship Strategies: For Success in Your Career, Business and
Investments
9) The Thousand Year War In The Mideast: How it Affects You Today

12th Grade
10) WWI: The Rest of The Story and How If Affects You Today
11) WWII: WWI: The Rest of The Story and How If Affects You Today


How would you put that on a high school transcript?

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 10:18 PM

I'm interested in knowing the answer, as well, as I just bought 5 of them. I'm listing some of them as Economics. :bigear:

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 10:26 PM

Economics: 1/2 Credit (with SGs): What Ever Happened to Penny Candy. I reccomend adding Communist Manifesto and Wealth of Nations.
Personal Finance: 1 Credit (with SGs): Uncle Eric Talks about Personal, Career and Financial Security
The Money Mystery: Hidden Force Affecting Your Career, Business and Investments
The Clipper Ship Strategies: For Success in Your Career, Business and
Investments
American Goverment and Poltical Theory: 1 Credit with SGs: Are You Liberal, Conservative, Confused? Whatever Happened To Justice. I added: Cliffnotes: American Government
Rest: Supplements
Sources:
Economics + Personal finance did in 8th grade
American Government and Political Theory: 9th grade

#4 Julie in MN

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 12:08 AM

Great to have input from a student here!

American Goverment and Poltical Theory: 1 Credit with SGs: Are You Liberal, Conservative, Confused? Whatever Happened To Justice. I added: Cliffnotes: American Government

Maybe the Cliffnotes round out the learning, not sure since they vary in length, but maybe it's one of those long ones? I do agree that something else would need to be added unless one were going to label the course specifically Libertarian theory.

I'd have trouble calling Uncle Eric books alone an "American Government" course, since American Government is not following Uncle Eric's theories, as he would be the first to admit. Political Theory has potential for a course title, but it would probably only cover one theory ;) so maybe it should be "Libertarian Political Theory"?

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 01:56 AM

ack! double post! sorry!

Edited by Lori D., 28 May 2012 - 01:59 AM.


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 01:58 AM

We plan to have dd do all 11 in high school. 3 a year grades 9-11 and 2 in 12th grade. We would be following the order recommended in the books: How would you put that on a high school transcript?



Just curious: have you previewed any of these yet? If not, you may want to pre-read 2-3 first before committing to the whole series... It's just that the Uncle Eric books are a bit of a "one trick pony" in that once you've read 1 or 2 of the books, the rest are pretty much the same thing, just set in a different time period or with a slightly different focus...


We did use Penny Candy (a small part of the Economics 0.5 credit -- along with the TC Economics lecture series, Larry Burkett Money Matters for Teens, and Dave Ramsey Foundations in Personal Finance) and Liberal/Conservative/Confused (a small part of the Gov't 0.5 credit -- along with a textbook and participation in model legislation Youth & Gov't program). I previewed the WW1 and WW2 books, but decided they were just too extreme in viewpoint to really be able to include as part of our History, and neither really covered Government topics, so we did not use them.

More of a concern to me is that the Uncle Eric books are from a single extreme point of view, and do not cover the typical range of topics covered in a typical Economics or Government course.

For example, it is pretty standard for a high school Economics course to cover micro- (supply, demand, consumers, competition, markets, price, etc.) and macro- (deficit, inflation, employment, fiscal policy, international trade, etc.) economic topics. (See this helpful list of the 51 key economics concepts common to all US State requirements for high school classes in economics, compiled by the National Council on Economic Education (NCEE).)

And similarly, a typical high school Government course would cover at a minimum topics such as: types of government (monarchy, dictatorship, socialism, communism, republic, etc.); the US Constitution and the founding of our government; the 3 branches of our government (legislative, executive, judicial); how a bill becomes law; the Supreme Court and key rulings; the Bureaucracy (governmental agencies and what each oversees); political parties; elections and campaigns; civil liberties and civil rights; public policy; state and local government; etc.

As a result, I would recommend using the Uncle Eric books as just one of several resources from a variety of viewpoints to make sure you have enough material addressing all the topics needed for each credit.


The above was just my bonus advice. :tongue_smilie: In answer to your original question about how to award credits -- based on familiarity with 4 of the books, if it were me awarding credit using all of the above here is how I would award it:

0.25 credit = Economics (because I would still need to use other resources to cover the other standard Economics topics):
1) Uncle Eric Talks about Personal, Career and Financial Security
2) What Ever Happened to Penny Candy?
3) The Money Mystery: Hidden Force Affecting Your Career, Business and Investments
4) The Clipper Ship Strategies: For Success in Your Career, Business and
Investments


resources towards a Government class (would need a solid "spine" text to cover the majority of standard topics):
1) Whatever Happened To Justice
2) Are You Liberal, Conservative, Confused?


supplement towards various Social Studies/History classes that the books best fit with:
1) Ancient Rome and How if Affects you Today
2) Evaluating Books: What Would Thomas Jefferson Think About This?
3) The Thousand Year War In The Mideast: How it Affects You Today
4) WWI: The Rest of The Story and How If Affects You Today
5) WWII: The Rest of The Story and How If Affects You Today


Just my opinion! BEST of luck, whatever you go with! Warmest regards, Lori D.

Edited by Lori D., 28 May 2012 - 02:17 AM.


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:23 PM

do you have any recommendations for the other topics to cover the gaps? I loved your post. Very informative.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:20 PM

do you have any recommendations for the other topics to cover the gaps? I loved your post. Very informative.
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Gosh, there are loads of Economics and Government resources out there; I just picked what I thought would work for us, covered the standard topics, and "felt" like enough to equal a semester's worth of material. I just did searches of past threads on "Economics" and "Government" (or "Civics") to read about what other people used and what worked/didn't work. Below are some ideas recommended throughout the past few years by others on this board, in case that is of help! BEST of luck in finding what works best for your family! Warmest regards, Lori D.


ECONOMICS

Textbook, or Textbook with Additional Readings -- SECULAR
- The Complete Idiot's Guide to Economics
- Economics for Dummies
- Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to the Economy (by Thomas Sowell)
- Glencoe: "Economics: Principles and Practices"
- Economics in One Lesson (by Henry Hazlitt)
- Economics in a Box


Textbook, or Textbook with Additional Readings -- CHRISTIAN
- Abeka: Economics: Work and Prosperity
- BJU Press Heritage Series: Economics
- Alpha-Omega Lifepac: Government and Economics
- Christian Liberty Press: "Government/Economics"
- Ray Notgrass "Exploring Economics"


Workbook Packs -- CHRISTIAN
- Alpha-Omega LifePac: "Government & Economics"
- ACE (Accelerated Christian Education) School of Tomorrow: "Economics" (1139-1144)


Free Online Textbook (secular)
- PASS (Parallel Alternative Strategies for Students)


Computer CD Course (christian)
- AO Switched On Schoolhouse: "Government & Economics"


DVD Course (secular)
- The Great Courses: Economics (taught by Timothy Taylor)


Personal Finance
- Dave Ramsey: Foundations in Personal Finance (DVD AND workbook)
- Money Matters for Teens (Larry Burkett)


Online Course
- The Potter's School: "Economics" (Christian)
- Memoria Press: Classical Economics (Christian)
- Thinkwell: "Economics" (secular)


Programs (can count participation towards credit hours)
- Junior Achievement
- DECA


GOVERNMENT

Textbook, or Textbook with Additional Readings -- SECULAR
- Great Source: "American Government"
- Glencoe: "Civics Today"
- The Complete Idiot's Guide to US Government and Politics
- Everything American Government Book
- Barron's Painless American Government


Textbook, or Textbook with Additional Readings -- CHRISTIAN
- Abeka: "Work and Prosperity"
- BJU Press Heritage Studies: "American Government"
- Calvert: "Civics in America" (for middle schoolers)
- Christian Liberty Press: "Government and Economics"
- Ray Notgrass "Exploring Government"
- Sonlight core 400
- Declaration Statesmanship Program
(syllabus from Mother of Divine Grace homeschool materials webpage)


Workbook Packs -- CHRISTIAN
- Alpha-Omega LifePac: "Government & Economics"
- ACE (Accelerated Christian Education) School of Tomorrow: "U.S. Civics" (1133-1138)


Free Online Textbook (secular)
- Hippocampus: "American Government"
- Hippocampus: "US Government & Politics for AP"
- PASS (Parallel Alternative Strategies for Students)


DVD Course (secular)
- Standard Deviants: American Government (10 DVD pack)


Computer CD Course (Christian)
- AO Switched On Schoolhouse: "Government & Economics"


Online Course
- Potter's School: "Government" (Christian)
- Northstar Academy (Christian; uses Abeka)
- Oak Meadow: "Government" (1 year/1 credit) (secular)
- Thinkwell: "American Government" (secular)


Programs (can count participation towards credit hours)
- TEEN Pact (Christian)=
- Youth & Government (YMCA sponsored)
- Junior State of America
- Model United Nations -- National Model United Nations; United Nations Association of USA; also see if your local university runs a program
- Teen Court

Edited by Lori D., 28 May 2012 - 04:30 PM.


#9 Sebastian (a lady)

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:09 PM

I'm a huge fan of the Thomas Sowell Basic Economics book. The 1st edition is shorter (almost half as long) but is still quite detailed. The 3rd edition contains a set of discussion questions about the various chapters.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 07:22 PM

:)


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